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What kind of Money Management rules do you have?

  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 28, 2007 12:29pm Sep 28, 2007 12:29pm
Would be nice if someone would share them clever money management rules/system more in details?

So far I'm always risking 1% of my account (stop-loss) and looking to 2% gain (limit). That's it.

Any suggestsions regarding money management? There's endless number of threads about trading systems, but a few threads about money management systems.


PS: I have been trading for 6 months now, made some 100 trades and I'm pretty much in the starting point still, with 4% trading account minus (that's around the cost of spreads for 100 trades).

I'm not making money, not losing lots of money. Any ideas what should I change to get better?
  • #2
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:10pm Sep 28, 2007 2:10pm
i use sommething similar to you not exact but im not gonna write a whole lot. I think key for long term succes is to understand gearing and not overgear ur total account equity in a trade. A gearing of 1:5 is maybe conservative but i think its to high still.So my money management is based on gearing max 1:3 and win loss in percent

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  • #3
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:02am Sep 29, 2007 6:02am
Personally one rule I often add is to lock in profit for a month. Say for example I get to +8% for a month, I may lock in 5% so that would be the worst result possible. Also, I like to move stops to break even when they get to being nicely in profit, so the trade is then risk free.
  • #4
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:06am Sep 29, 2007 6:06am
I use a fixed % of risk per trade and only enter trades with a possitive risk/reward ratio. I also usually scale out of a trade in two steps, moving stop to breakeven as the first target is met.
  • #5
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:17am Sep 29, 2007 6:17am
Quoting WTB
I use a fixed % of risk per trade and only enter trades with a possitive risk/reward ratio. I also usually scale out of a trade in two steps, moving stop to breakeven as the first target is met.
That's it. This is perfect. You know why? Because ONE NEVER NEVER NEVER KNOWS where the price will go the next moment. NEVER. So the protection is the best attack in FX.
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  • #6
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:21am Sep 29, 2007 6:21am
Quoting bullrock
That's it. This is perfect. You know why? Because ONE NEVER NEVER NEVER KNOWS where the price will go the next moment. NEVER. So the protection is the best attack in FX.
I totally agree with that! It does make me laugh when I hear these "Experts" on bloomberg making these bold claims on what price is going to do. Its very rare they are right..
  • #7
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:32am Sep 29, 2007 6:32am
Quoting peterM
I totally agree with that! It does make me laugh when I hear these "Experts" on bloomberg making these bold claims on what price is going to do. Its very rare they are right..
Well they are from the same breed.. HUMANS . And humans always wanted to predict things. There is a whole range of sciences and complex mathematics allocated to that. I dont want to see the future I want to see my account to grow.
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  • #8
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:52am Sep 29, 2007 6:52am
I'm using fixed ratio money management for better growing factor than fixed fractional.
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  • #9
  • Sep 29, 2007 10:30am Sep 29, 2007 10:30am
Quoting bullrock
Well they are from the same breed.. HUMANS . And humans always wanted to predict things. There is a whole range of sciences and complex mathematics allocated to that. I dont want to see the future I want to see my account to grow.

I agree that predicting price movements anything more than 50% correctly in the long term (with 1:1 MM) is impossible or at least freaking hard.

So shouldn't we then be able to make money with flip of a coin and only using money management? Well, profitable money management seems to be similar "holy grail" myth as trading systems. Otherwise you could only use money management and your coin to trade, well life isn't that easy
  • #10
  • Sep 29, 2007 10:35am Sep 29, 2007 10:35am
Quoting bullrock
Well they are from the same breed.. HUMANS . And humans always wanted to predict things. There is a whole range of sciences and complex mathematics allocated to that. I dont want to see the future I want to see my account to grow.
Yep.. me too.. I just wait for high probability setups to arise... Its often too much like guessing trading your "predictions". Like you mentioned earlier.. anything can happen, at anytime, unexpectedly, so we gotta be prepared.
  • #11
  • Sep 29, 2007 10:50am Sep 29, 2007 10:50am
Quoting peterM
I totally agree with that! It does make me laugh when I hear these "Experts" on bloomberg making these bold claims on what price is going to do. Its very rare they are right..
Yeah.....must be great to be getting paid what those guys get and still be such an incredible screwup....I'm sure it makes their mamma's proud.

deffinition of an EXPERT.....
X= an unknown, and sPERT = a drip under pressure.....

oh yeah , the MM thing. I trade trend momentum and move to BE as soon as possible then let it run with a trailing stop. nothing too complicated in that.
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  • #12
  • Sep 29, 2007 2:29pm Sep 29, 2007 2:29pm
My risk/reward ratio is 1:9 and 1:17.

Works great for me!

And yes, even me cannot predict the future
  • #13
  • Sep 29, 2007 5:28pm Sep 29, 2007 5:28pm
Quoting johnedoe
Yeah.....must be great to be getting paid what those guys get and still be such an incredible screwup....I'm sure it makes their mamma's proud.

deffinition of an EXPERT.....
X= an unknown, and sPERT = a drip under pressure.....

oh yeah , the MM thing. I trade trend momentum and move to BE as soon as possible then let it run with a trailing stop. nothing too complicated in that.
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  • #14
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:00pm Sep 29, 2007 6:00pm
I risk 4% on normal trades but during times when the carry trades are unwinding as they were back in August I will risk 25-30%.
  • #15
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:04pm Sep 29, 2007 6:04pm
Thats a lot of risk.. how have you been doing ?
  • #16
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:12pm Sep 29, 2007 6:12pm
Well the first 8 months of trading I had no method and lost big time, since July I have been sticking with a new method and have been in profit. I was able to increase my account by 80% just from the carry unwinds back in August using the extra risk.

edit - This is on a small account <$1500 and one that would make no difference to me if I blew it all so I don't mind taking a little extra risk.
  • #17
  • Sep 29, 2007 6:25pm Sep 29, 2007 6:25pm
Quoting imbiber
Well the first 8 months of trading I had no method and lost big time, since July I have been sticking with a new method and have been in profit. I was able to increase my account by 80% just from the carry unwinds back in August using the extra risk.
I think most people are the same initially, I know I was..
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edit - This is on a small account <$1500 and one that would make no difference to me if I blew it all so I don't mind taking a little extra risk.

Thats fair enough.. I prefer to treat my account like I am trading my life savings.. even though I am not, far from it. It helps me to remain disciplined and focused.
  • #18
  • Sep 29, 2007 7:57pm Sep 29, 2007 7:57pm
Quoting mjollnir
I'm using fixed ratio money management for better growing factor than fixed fractional.
How is it working for you? Have you gone back and analyzed how your account would have done with a fixed fractional model instead?

What size delta are you using?
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  • #19
  • Sep 29, 2007 8:03pm Sep 29, 2007 8:03pm
I'm currently using a fixed fractional with multiples on volatility for normalization.

As an example, I would take a 0.3 multiple on GBPJPY. I keep them pretty static and discretionary, i'm looking into using ATR instead to maintain consistency.
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  • #20
  • Last Post: Sep 29, 2007 8:34pm Sep 29, 2007 8:34pm
Quoting SomedayIwill
Would be nice if someone would share them clever money management rules/system more in details?

So far I'm always risking 1% of my account (stop-loss) and looking to 2% gain (limit). That's it.

Any suggestsions regarding money management? There's endless number of threads about trading systems, but a few threads about money management systems.


PS: I have been trading for 6 months now, made some 100 trades and I'm pretty much in the starting point still, with 4% trading account minus (that's around the cost of spreads for 100 trades).

I'm not making money, not losing lots of money. Any ideas what should I change to get better?

This idea may help http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=47732
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