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  • #101
  • Sep 28, 2007 12:23pm Sep 28, 2007 12:23pm
Quoting brok
I loved the job you have done here. Respect Have something on mind as a question thou.... Have you come up with these timeframes by using the ea or backtesting manually? Also I have to mention big differences between the custom indicators such as DMI between MT4 and VTT. You probably had backtested thru MT, right?
Those results are from backtesting the EA (using MT4). I also did some manual backtests earlier but only for GBPJPY and EURJPY on the 15m and 5m, maybe also the 1H. I posted the results in the Supernova thread before I started this journal, if you're interested (at the beginning of the thread mainly).

Yes, I now use MT4 exclusively.
  • #102
  • Sep 28, 2007 12:24pm Sep 28, 2007 12:24pm
Quoting Gnat
Good morning, Ma'am!

Le Islas Supernovatis are awaiting you. Here is breakfast - noone can live only on coffee for long!

God save the Queen!
Gnat
Gnat, you're too kind : !!!
  • #103
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:28pm Sep 28, 2007 1:28pm
Quoting Qpip
Gnat, you're too kind : !!!
Always trying to be of service, your Highness!

When you are testing the pairs on the MT4 tester,

- do you download the complete data from 1M to 1W from your broker?

- Unfortunately my platforms were all updated into GERMAN, therefor I can only guess hwat it is called on your platform: Under "Extras" (3rd from right in the top menue) - "Options" -there the second tab "Diagramms" - set Max bars in history to "999999999" & bars in chart also to "999999999". This will give you much longer timeframes to test if you

- then download at "Extras" - "Full / Complete history" <F2> the 1M file of each pair.

This will give you the full 1 Min data and will keep the tester from interpolating the prices. If tickdata are available, it is even better!

You will be able to test longer timeframes and with more depth.

See ya later
Gnat, humbly
  • #104
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:34pm Sep 28, 2007 1:34pm
Found this in the archives..
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  • #105
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:45pm Sep 28, 2007 1:45pm
Quoting cryten
Found this in the archives..
Hiho...

you are fast my lite-footed Master Cryten!! Thanks for the file... does it match up with my suggestions?

Getting into a testing frenzy a bit.

Ciao
Gnat

It does :-) But it is easier to follow!
  • #106
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:45pm Sep 28, 2007 1:45pm
Quoting Gnat
Always trying to be of service, your Highness!

When you are testing the pairs on the MT4 tester,

- do you download the complete data from 1M to 1W from your broker?

- Unfortunately my platforms were all updated into GERMAN, therefor I can only guess hwat it is called on your platform: Under "Extras" (3rd from right in the top menue) - "Options" -there the second tab "Diagramms" - set Max bars in history to "999999999" & bars in chart also to "999999999". This will give you much longer timeframes to test if you

- then download at "Extras" - "Full / Complete history" <F2> the 1M file of each pair.

This will give you the full 1 Min data and will keep the tester from interpolating the prices. If tickdata are available, it is even better!

You will be able to test longer timeframes and with more depth.

See ya later
Gnat, humbly
I'm looking into it right now. Didn't even know of this feature. Thanks I'll get back to you when I sort out what all this MEANS!!!!
  • #107
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:50pm Sep 28, 2007 1:50pm
Quoting Gnat
Hiho...

you are fast my lite-footed Master Cryten!! Thanks for the file... does it match up with my suggestions?

Getting into a testing frenzy a bit.

Ciao
Gnat

It does :-) But it is easier to follow!
yeah I should try it too but for some reason I prefer to manually go over the charts. I like see other backtesting methods tho..
  • #108
  • Edited 2:08pm Sep 28, 2007 1:53pm | Edited 2:08pm
Quoting Qpip
I'm looking into it right now. Didn't even know of this feature. Thanks I'll get back to you when I sort out what all this MEANS!!!!
I guess, if there are no tickdata available, I could organize a set in a few days. It would be a certain Broker's data, but that would bring the modelling quality up a bit.

Another little thing: The platform should not have been updated to Version 210 yet. I have several stations and computers with the 208 version. This will let you test with the right spread as long as you do not close the station or computer down all through the/a weekend. A time when no bots and will trade .

Thank you both!
Gnat

Modelling quality can rise to 99% and it is so much easier to put real real money up on that.
  • #109
  • Sep 28, 2007 1:57pm Sep 28, 2007 1:57pm
Quoting cryten
yeah I should try it too but for some reason I prefer to manually go over the charts. I like see other backtesting methods tho..
LOL ... but you are right. One of the biggest problems is time. I have run tests in the past for 96 hours covering 2001 - 2007 on 1 minute or tick-data. But then you actually know a good handful of settings in the end that can safely run for Bed and Breakfast, Boat and Bugatti, Beer and Booz... and Boris Becker! Hmph!?

AND: We will know what to change in the next version!
  • #110
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:10pm Sep 28, 2007 2:10pm
Well guys and qpip sorry to go off topic but it's friday and I'm off now to the below
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  • #111
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:16pm Sep 28, 2007 2:16pm
IMO the results of a dot-to-dot strategy could be optimized on longer timeframes, whereas the entry-strategy may be shortened on the short term 1M, 5M, 15M. Do you see a chance in imraim's concept there, Cryten?

So far the results are very good, but I cannot understand that 4H should be so much less profitable than 1H and that 30M should all end in tears. But maybe each pair needs a finetuned setting in the end! ... Buah... smells like work!

hihi
Gnat
  • #112
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:19pm Sep 28, 2007 2:19pm
Quoting cryten
Well guys and qpip sorry to go off topic but it's friday and I'm off now to the below
I just now realize... I love Pink Fpfloyyddd!!

He will be deaf, dumb and blind after that for weeks!

OK ... smells like weekend. Just waited all day to get this shared. So I had to get it off my chest.

Man you are crazy!!

Gnat
  • #113
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:22pm Sep 28, 2007 2:22pm
Quoting cryten
Well guys and qpip sorry to go off topic but it's friday and I'm off now to the below
Have a super great time (what IS that exactly anyway -- a concert, a show, high tech strip tease???) Anyway, have FUNNNNNNN !
  • #114
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:25pm Sep 28, 2007 2:25pm
happy hardcore - techno dance music

I love all different types of music, happy hardcore, nirvana, tracy chapman, tori amos and loads more. Thought I'd add that incase you think i'm a pill popping techno bunny

**it's like a rave**
  • #115
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:28pm Sep 28, 2007 2:28pm
Quoting cryten
happy hardcore - techno dance music

I love all different types of music, happy hardcore, nirvana, tracy chapman, tori amos and loads more. Thought I'd add that incase you think i'm a pill popping techno bunny

**it's like a rave**
You will not wind yourself out of this... No, no!!

Have fun! And a lot of the BB stuff we are all after!

Nice weekend and small hangover!
Gnat
  • #116
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:32pm Sep 28, 2007 2:32pm
Quoting Gnat
... Buah... smells like work!

hihi
Gnat
Yup, but FUN work, as far as I'm concerned. Will shortly be cracking a nice little beer open, fold up my sleeves, rub my hands and say "Ahhhhhh, what a pleasant Friday evening ahead" (I can remember times when, well, let's just say had you told me in those days that I'd actually enjoy what I just stated, I would have guffawed "Yeah right, this girl has other plans" and laughed so hard in your face you would've become VERY red )

But, it's the truth, I'm looking forward to a real FUN evening of mega testing hehehhe. And thanks for showing me these specifications, plus thanks Cryten for pointing to that article, I'll model my setup on it. So happy we'll be able to get much better/precise results. Of course, my own preliminary results have me totally boggled as well --> why such difference in the results for different time frames?????

Anyway, I'll first post the end-of-week results and then start testing away!
  • #117
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:34pm Sep 28, 2007 2:34pm
Quoting Gnat
You will not wind yourself out of this... No, no!!

Have fun! And a lot of the BB stuff we are all after!

Nice weekend and small hangover!
Gnat
hehehe thanks dude,

good weekend to all!
  • #118
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:41pm Sep 28, 2007 2:41pm
Below is the situation @ 14:00 EST Friday afternoon for the autobots. Have a look at the balance on the left (negative). Things didn’t go well during the night. Since this is friday, I’ll be closing out trades between 14:00 and 15:00. Next post will have the results of the realized p/l for the week.
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  • #119
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:44pm Sep 28, 2007 2:44pm
All positions are closed. First image is autobots, second image is humanbots (the pink is where my trailing stops got hit, where no pink either closed out automatically or I closed manually).

And the winner is........................
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  • #120
  • Sep 28, 2007 2:48pm Sep 28, 2007 2:48pm
Quoting Qpip
Yup, but FUN work, as far as I'm concerned. Will shortly be cracking a nice little beer open, fold up my sleeves, rub my hands and say "Ahhhhhh, what a pleasant Friday evening ahead" (I can remember times when, well, let's just say had you told me in those days that I'd actually enjoy what I just stated, I would have guffawed "Yeah right, this girl has other plans" and laughed so hard in your face you would've become VERY red )

But, it's the truth, I'm looking forward to a real FUN evening of mega testing hehehhe. And thanks for showing me these specifications, plus thanks Cryten for pointing to that article, I'll model my setup on it. So happy we'll be able to get much better/precise results. Of course, my own preliminary results have me totally boggled as well --> why such difference in the results for different time frames?????

Anyway, I'll first post the end-of-week results and then start testing away!
Victims of circumstances (not that I am a Barclay James Harvest decipel in any way) ... my mother still does not understand that the boy who never did his homework and connected one sparetime to the other became practically a work-o-holic.

But I hope that you really do not mind me putting that forward on a Friday. And someting else I realized... I HAVE NO BEER IN DA HOUSE!! Jaul!!

Your test actually brought me to check the charts and see the difference between the 2 worlds. So it is your fault in the most positive way here!

Have a good evening and beautiful weekend. Lyrical leadress of the army of bots

Good Night and good testing! I will try it myself again here.
Gnat, The Fly

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