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  • #781
  • Dec 10, 2006 11:09am Dec 10, 2006 11:09am
Hi Orange,

Can you change your decision in your post #722 about sharing the
EA? I have been thinking a lot about the method you told me and
built some small indicators to verify the results, not the whole
system, just some of the elements ... wow! What I am gona suggest
might bring a lot of critisims and make me an axx on this thread
but I have to say this: don't share the EA.

Many hardcores who have already seen the power of SRDC may agree
with me that this is too good a system to be ruin. Not that I don't
trust our hardcores, but even just one copy of this EA is exposed
to the public, it may bring unexpected/devastating results to your
method. We don't want that to happen. I am sure we can find a
better way to benefit our hardcores, but not like this.

Besides, to translate your way of trading into cold hard logic is
not as easy as it seems. I am expecting a lot of hours we spend
together just to make sure we understand each other and that's the
only way to ensure the quality of the EA. I have shared many of my
hard work on FF, but sharing this in this way is simply an insult
to the authors (not that I am suggesting to sale it, nop).

I think our hardcores may understand what I am talking about. For
newcomers to this thread, I may sound like a commercial guy. But
whatever.

aha
Target: Trading naked.
  • #782
  • Dec 10, 2006 11:31am Dec 10, 2006 11:31am
Quoting howard
For a long time I have found Thom a very helpful person...
Howard thank you for your kind words. I'm always happy to assist and help out where it makes sense. Looks like Orange has big plans for an SRDC "Domain" name ownership and all which is beyond what was mentioned in his post 722. I'm always just an email/PM away : ) I've emailed TraderBill with some ideas that might make financial cents (pun) due also to Orange's "FREE. Nothing that will put a hole in your wallet" . . .

LOL... and i also own the domain name TwoTrillionDollarsDaily.com . . . not in use at this time...but catchy ey?

: ) Thom
  • #783
  • Dec 10, 2006 11:45am Dec 10, 2006 11:45am
Quoting aha
Hi Orange,

Can you change your decision in your post #722 about sharing the
EA? don't share the EA.

Many hardcores who have already seen the power of SRDC may agree
with me that this is too good a system to be ruin.


aha
Aha, I wrote and re-wrote a response to your message. To make it easier... I AGREE 100%. I think thousands using the EA, which would happen if it got out to the public, could possibly undermine the efforts of this thread and system. I do not know how Orange feels about this, but it is obvious he doesnt want everyone having it. The sad fact is, everyone will have it if it is released.

I do not believe I am in the "inner circle" or hardcores that were spoken about. Please do not assume that I have a motive for leaving this reply. I am just stating an opinion.

Finished setting up MetaTrader with all the indicators, will be posting charts next week... thanks for all the tips in this thread guys!
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #784
  • Dec 10, 2006 11:47am Dec 10, 2006 11:47am
Quoting johne59
I think it's kind of funny how you mention the fact that you want people to contribute in order to enjoy the fruits of the eventual EA, and the gracious comments seem to come out of the woodwork. I too would like to partake of the eventual EA. However, I know better than to just ask for it and have it magically all just work, and make me rich.

I have been following your two threads since the beginning. I have been quietly watching and learning, as a good padawan should. I've only been interested in trading the forex market for about the last two months. During that time I have investigated as much as I possibly could. I think I have done, am doing, and will continue to do my due diligence. In the last two months I have learned about Fibonacci retracements and convergence, trends and trend lines, Elliot wave theory, the MetaTrader platform, MQL language, scripts, indicators, EA's, money/risk management, and psychology.

I find it hilarious when people ask for an EA, have it given to them, and then ask how to use it. It seems to me that too many people don't want to do the diligence in order to learn and understand what they are about to embark on. It's just my personal opinion, but I think that anybody who believes that they can just run an EA without knowing what it does, and why it works the way it does is just going to wind up losing their shirt.

Having said that, I think I may actually have something to contribute. I know that many people are having problems understanding the whole Fibonacci thing. So, as an addition to the Fibonacci levels, I would like to know if anybody has any experience with Murrey Math lines. I have been following a thread on one of the other forums about them. I am totally amazed at how the candles dance within the lines, which are within the channels. I'm convinced that they may become an integral part of any EA that may be developed from this system. I'm afraid to post any links for fear of getting bounced out of this forum. I'm looking too forward to learning about levels 3 & 4 of the OrangeRoshan SRDC method! If somebody else would like to post a link, or wants to know more about the Murrey Math lines, feel free to PM or email me.

Look close at how the candles dance between the Murrey Math lines.




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We are all learning step by step here and progressing gradually, nobody is asking for an EA blindly, in spite of the fact that people are at all levels of trading knowledge in this thread.

Regards

howard
Regards
  • #785
  • Dec 10, 2006 12:09pm Dec 10, 2006 12:09pm
Quoting aha
Hi Orange,

Can you change your decision in your post #722 about sharing the
EA? I have been thinking a lot about the method you told me and
built some small indicators to verify the results, not the whole
system, just some of the elements ... wow! What I am gona suggest
might bring a lot of critisims and make me an axx on this thread
but I have to say this: don't share the EA.

Many hardcores who have already seen the power of SRDC may agree
with me that this is too good a system to be ruin. Not that I don't
trust our hardcores, but even just one copy of this EA is exposed
to the public, it may bring unexpected/devastating results to your
method. We don't want that to happen. I am sure we can find a
better way to benefit our hardcores, but not like this.

Besides, to translate your way of trading into cold hard logic is
not as easy as it seems. I am expecting a lot of hours we spend
together just to make sure we understand each other and that's the
only way to ensure the quality of the EA. I have shared many of my
hard work on FF, but sharing this in this way is simply an insult
to the authors (not that I am suggesting to sale it, nop).

I think our hardcores may understand what I am talking about. For
newcomers to this thread, I may sound like a commercial guy. But
whatever.

aha
Aha,

I fully agree with u. I was hesistant to say because it may sound selfish.

I think we should focus more on the manual method. Those hardcore and last it out all the levels will get to use the EA.. i guess. Jedi Roshan, when u post the pips u got from Friday... i am very sure alot of people would jump in. Just see the number of new posts... new people coming in. It is best that u and Aha settle the EA privately and u continue the SRDC lessons... and fortune favours the persistent practitioner.
The future depends on what we do in the present.
  • #786
  • Dec 10, 2006 12:25pm Dec 10, 2006 12:25pm
Quoting accrete
Howard thank you for your kind words. I'm always happy to assist and help out where it makes sense. Looks like Orange has big plans for an SRDC "Domain" name ownership and all which is beyond what was mentioned in his post 722. I'm always just an email/PM away : ) I've emailed TraderBill with some ideas that might make financial cents (pun) due also to Orange's "FREE. Nothing that will put a hole in your wallet" . . .

LOL... and i also own the domain name TwoTrillionDollarsDaily.com . . . not in use at this time...but catchy ey?

: ) Thom
Hi Thom

The way it has been proposed to go ahead is the best way forward now; I just mentioned my opinion as I knew you did not have any wallet at all, LOL

howard
Regards
  • #787
  • Dec 10, 2006 1:28pm Dec 10, 2006 1:28pm
Quoting howard
...as I knew you did not have any wallet at all, LOL
LOL, but i am getting my slice of that "TwoTrillionDollarsDaily" market. grin.

: ) Thom
  • #788
  • Dec 10, 2006 1:34pm Dec 10, 2006 1:34pm
Quoting aha
Hi Orange,

Can you change your decision in your post #722 about sharing the
EA? I have been thinking a lot about the method you told me and
built some small indicators to verify the results, not the whole
system, just some of the elements ... wow! What I am gona suggest
might bring a lot of critisims and make me an axx on this thread
but I have to say this: don't share the EA.

Many hardcores who have already seen the power of SRDC may agree
with me that this is too good a system to be ruin. Not that I don't
trust our hardcores, but even just one copy of this EA is exposed
to the public, it may bring unexpected/devastating results to your
method. We don't want that to happen. I am sure we can find a
better way to benefit our hardcores, but not like this.

Besides, to translate your way of trading into cold hard logic is
not as easy as it seems. I am expecting a lot of hours we spend
together just to make sure we understand each other and that's the
only way to ensure the quality of the EA. I have shared many of my
hard work on FF, but sharing this in this way is simply an insult
to the authors (not that I am suggesting to sale it, nop).

I think our hardcores may understand what I am talking about. For
newcomers to this thread, I may sound like a commercial guy. But
whatever.

aha
Aha,

Maybe I am missing something here, but if you don't share this EA with the hardcores in this thread who are working on things other than programming, then who gets it? If you are designing it purely for your own use than just tell us. If you want to make it a commercial venture, then just tell us. I think you will run the risk of many programmers attempting to create an EA based on just what they learn in here and then the result would be disaster. Now I think we all agree the authors as well as OrangeRoshan deserve to make money from their efforts. I guess I just don't get what you are advocating. OrangeRoshan has been sharing this method with us all and that still leaves thousands of people to market it to.

Thanks,
  • #789
  • Dec 10, 2006 2:32pm Dec 10, 2006 2:32pm
Wow this thread has took a lot of reading, I can't believe how big it has become in such a short space of time.

Has the system now being concentrated on the EA or manually as well? Also the most up to date rules for this system where are they? I could only find the first rules from the first couple of posts from Orange.
Pip Goes The Weasel
  • #790
  • Dec 10, 2006 3:24pm Dec 10, 2006 3:24pm
Quoting aha
Hi Orange,

Can you change your decision in your post #722 about sharing the
EA? I have been thinking a lot about the method you told me and
built some small indicators to verify the results, not the whole
system, just some of the elements ... wow! What I am gona suggest
might bring a lot of critisims and make me an axx on this thread
but I have to say this: don't share the EA.

Many hardcores who have already seen the power of SRDC may agree
with me that this is too good a system to be ruin. Not that I don't
trust our hardcores, but even just one copy of this EA is exposed
to the public, it may bring unexpected/devastating results to your
method. We don't want that to happen. I am sure we can find a
better way to benefit our hardcores, but not like this.

Besides, to translate your way of trading into cold hard logic is
not as easy as it seems. I am expecting a lot of hours we spend
together just to make sure we understand each other and that's the
only way to ensure the quality of the EA. I have shared many of my
hard work on FF, but sharing this in this way is simply an insult
to the authors (not that I am suggesting to sale it, nop).

I think our hardcores may understand what I am talking about. For
newcomers to this thread, I may sound like a commercial guy. But
whatever.

aha
The weekend was one of my most extra ordinary weekend ever. Since my last post, I have been receiving more than 100 emails!! All of you are just so kind and so very helpful. The spirit of helping and sharing is truely in the thread. Keep it up.

My decision on having who will setup the website is actually not that important, as a true Padawan and Jedi to this method will carry-on their plans by extending this method to the other universe with or without me. I have given enough materials in my 2 threads that will keep a trader buzy and profitable for life! I dont mind anyone extending this techniques everywhere in the Internet as long as it is NOT commercialised. A consent from me will be needed when the later is the case. The reason being, you will want my support one way or another. Market sentiment change!

I got emails from a CEOs who wants me to train their fund Managers for a couple of days, where some of them have been trading longer than me. The price was very good, infact higher than what are offered to many pros in the market. I have individuals who also requested a 1-1 training.

My answers are simple. It is not a question of money, but Time. When my schedule will allow it, then I will do it, but that may be a rare occasion as my schedule is fully book until April 2007.

When I look at the Padawans and Jedis who have been using this system, I can tell, many are already self sufficient. You dont need Level III & level IV that soon. Learning takes courage and patience. That is the next discipline you must master now. In the meantime I will add post on other subjects such as money managements and risk management at my own time. Please continue Teamspeak as it is a very powerful tool learning collectively. I may not be in teamspeak that often, but you never know, I may pop in when you least expected.

I would expect the Jedis to help the young Padawans with their training. Give, like how you received them.

Now, regarding the EA. I cannot force you (Aha) to share your work when you think it would jeopardise my method and the trading skill of many Jedis and Padawans here. I will respect you decision and understand your concern. It was infact address to me via email from many traders. But, should anyone wants to have a workable EA based on SRDC engine, my suggestion is, code it or get another coder to do it for you privatelly. There are enough information here for anyone to create a succesful EA.

These efforts can be discuss here and on all the websites dedicated in learning the SRDC or the channel Trading. I will dropby, once in a while (when my time permits) to add flavours to your discussions.

For the meantime, Practice Practice and Practice. A clue for those who wants to be succesful in this method, "Dont reinvent the wheel". Look at the 2 methods carefully and you will find more secrets buried right under your very nose.

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #791
  • Dec 10, 2006 3:32pm Dec 10, 2006 3:32pm
Traderlismiss is correct but so is Aha. I believe what Aha is asking is how do you protect this? I believe you lock the code and setup a string of lessons on another site. After the lessons, you receive the EA or indicators along with the appropriate signoffs on copyright, EULA etc. Otherwise you will have people as Traderlismiss suggested creating their own EA on what they believe to be the best information available and that causes problems and conflicts and will give SRDC 1-4 a bad name. How would a new interested party know which method was real and why would he/she waste his/her time looking at the real SRDC if it just meant a bunch of stingy developers that wouldn't let you have the program or pay a nominal fee. Phoenix had similar help in developing his EA and then suggested he might sell it to the very people who had been helping him with different bugs and code fixes & back testing, etc. He was flamed for that thought.

Do what Orange said but help the programmers with everything we can; forward testing, backtesting, charting, website design, lesson development, legal language, etc. The minute I pull my finger out of the water at the bank guess what ...... there will be a ripple but soon enough the staff and the firm wil be fine without me. Everyone is replaceable. Most of all lets have fun and help the 99% of the world around us that are less fortunate. Remember this method is not perfect and will have drawdowns and for that reason I am always looking for non-correlated asset groups and strategies that produce a different type of return in their own right. Thanks for reading.

Quoting traderlismiss
Aha,

Maybe I am missing something here, but if you don't share this EA with the hardcores in this thread who are working on things other than programming, then who gets it? If you are designing it purely for your own use than just tell us. If you want to make it a commercial venture, then just tell us. I think you will run the risk of many programmers attempting to create an EA based on just what they learn in here and then the result would be disaster. Now I think we all agree the authors as well as OrangeRoshan deserve to make money from their efforts. I guess I just don't get what you are advocating. OrangeRoshan has been sharing this method with us all and that still leaves thousands of people to market it to.

Thanks,
  • #792
  • Dec 10, 2006 3:46pm Dec 10, 2006 3:46pm
Hi all

I been reading and making good progress,
I don't really care which way you guys go with the EA,
but if there is a chance you are not going to release it here for all Jedi's to use, (like firebird, girlfllyer etc do)

Then I suggest as of this moment, you stop talking about it on the forum publicly, otherwise it's just not fair to the others who are not elite enough to help code it, the jealousy etc it brings is just not a nice situation,
it's fair enough not to share it, but don't talk about it here, how great it will be etc etc, i'm sure you understand this point, and you should make up your minds today as what the outcome will be, and if it's public, then keep posting, if it's not, dont' post here about the EA anymore, it just puts a sour taste in alot mouths that will not be allowed to have the EA.

Sharing the EA will not ruin the EA, if the EA works it works, the only issue is if you feel your hard work shouldn't be just given away to everyone, then don't post about it publicly and it's no big deal, keep it to yourselves and we'll all just do manual trading here and get along fine.

Regards
  • #793
  • Dec 10, 2006 3:57pm Dec 10, 2006 3:57pm
go back to the posts 700-750 you will find AHA's and Lou's latest indicators and hensh wonderful pdf manual on SRDC 2, but frankly you need to read the whole thread to understand. I spent exactly 23 hours yesterday bringing myself up to speed. I will continue reading many posts from #1 to the end repeatedly.

Quoting adrazz
Wow this thread has took a lot of reading, I can't believe how big it has become in such a short space of time.

Has the system now being concentrated on the EA or manually as well? Also the most up to date rules for this system where are they? I could only find the first rules from the first couple of posts from Orange.
  • #794
  • Dec 10, 2006 3:58pm Dec 10, 2006 3:58pm
well said, thank you

Quoting Westie
Hi all

I been reading and making good progress,
I don't really care which way you guys go with the EA,
but if there is a chance you are not going to release it here for all Jedi's to use, (like firebird, girlfllyer etc do)

Then I suggest as of this moment, you stop talking about it on the forum publicly, otherwise it's just not fair to the others who are not elite enough to help code it, the jealousy etc it brings is just not a nice situation,
it's fair enough not to share it, but don't talk about it here, how great it will be etc etc, i'm sure you understand this point, and you should make up your minds today as what the outcome will be, and if it's public, then keep posting, if it's not, dont' post here about the EA anymore, it just puts a sour taste in alot mouths that will not be allowed to have the EA.

Sharing the EA will not ruin the EA, if the EA works it works, the only issue is if you feel your hard work shouldn't be just given away to everyone, then don't post about it publicly and it's no big deal, keep it to yourselves and we'll all just do manual trading here and get along fine.

Regards
  • #795
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:02pm Dec 10, 2006 4:02pm
Just a quick note, thanks to everyone in this thread/forum. It 'restores' faith in human nature [IF any one had lost it]. It's great to see so many people all helping THE Master Jedi to download his knowledge to us 'lesser traders'.

I've nearly finished transferring my data/files to a new laptop in preparation for my moving to Bali, so I look forward to trying Teamspeak again.

May the Force be with everyone that is behind this thread/forum/project.
  • #796
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:18pm Dec 10, 2006 4:18pm
this i love!!

Quoting OrangeRoshan
LOL, Let the EA do the work, and we trade manually as much as we like. Otherway, $$ will be still be generated, less stress. Or, use the EA as your sparring partner. Beat it everyday for 20 days consecutive, to see how your manual trading improve.

May the Force be with you
  • #797
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:28pm Dec 10, 2006 4:28pm
I am just bit disappointed with Aha's comments and his idea to withhold EA. As someone noted, if this was his intention he should have made it clear from the beginning. We have been told what a great addition this will be. For our teacher OrangeRoshan I want him to know that we will continue his method with or without an EA and thank him for sharing it. This method will stand up whether manually traded or with an EA.

I will remind Aha however that his EA factory was not a major success for the same reason as he is trying to implement here and he is well aware that once people starting not sharing progress and code the thread died for the most part. I hope our teacher OrangeRoshan will read through the EA factory thread and not allow that to happen with his great method.

My first teacher taught me that two things lead to failure in Forex, Greed and Fear!
  • #798
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:38pm Dec 10, 2006 4:38pm
Yes, and greed and fear lead to the darkside.
  • #799
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:48pm Dec 10, 2006 4:48pm
i'm not really involve but i can see so many hardcore dissapointed...
  • #800
  • Dec 10, 2006 4:59pm Dec 10, 2006 4:59pm
Quoting traderlismiss
I am just bit disappointed with Aha's comments and his idea to withhold EA. As someone noted, if this was his intention he should have made it clear from the beginning. We have been told what a great addition this will be. For our teacher OrangeRoshan I want him to know that we will continue his method with or without an EA and thank him for sharing it. This method will stand up whether manually traded or with an EA.

I will remind Aha however that his EA factory was not a major success for the same reason as he is trying to implement here and he is well aware that once people starting not sharing progress and code the thread died for the most part. I hope our teacher OrangeRoshan will read through the EA factory thread and not allow that to happen with his great method.

My first teacher taught me that two things lead to failure in Forex, Greed and Fear!
We still have Lou G to code the EA, if he would agree and anybody wants it.

howard
Regards
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