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  • #127,261
  • Apr 7, 2026 6:17am Apr 7, 2026 6:17am
Quoting gatorinla
Anyone remember when the attack happened before it was supposed to? Like during negotiations the surprise attack. Why would today be any different?
It's war!
  • #127,262
  • Apr 7, 2026 6:34am Apr 7, 2026 6:34am
Quoting gatorinla
Anyone remember when the attack happened before it was supposed to? Like during negotiations the surprise attack. Why would today be any different?
Exactly. why would Iran accept a cease fire?
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
  • #127,263
  • Edited 8:46am Apr 7, 2026 8:05am | Edited 8:46am
Quoting johncen
{quote} Exactly. why would Iran accept a cease fire?
Maybe because of Pakistan? 1) Pakistan has become very chummy with Trump, 2) Iran's quid-pro-quo has been you destroy our economic viability (with destruction of power generation and bridges) and we'll make everyone in the area sorry they had anything to do with the US, Saudi Arabia in particular (implying they won't take the deal,) 3)Pakistan and the Saudi's have Sunni dominated countries, with Pakistan and the Saudi's having a mutual defense pact of some kind and 4) Pakistan has hinted that it could be invoked if Iran does major infrastructure damage in Saudi Arabia...

Would that make the IRGC more willing to take a deal... whether they trust the US or not?
  • #127,264
  • Apr 7, 2026 8:47am Apr 7, 2026 8:47am
Quoting johncen
{quote} Exactly. why would Iran accept a cease fire?
Well, anybody who's country is getting bombed back to Stone Age would want a cease fire. What you hear in the media is posturing. Negotiations are going on hard behind the scenes. The Iranians are hard men but I am sure they are also intelligent.
  • #127,265
  • Apr 7, 2026 8:52am Apr 7, 2026 8:52am
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} Well, anybody who's country is getting bombed back to Stone Age would want a cease fire. What you hear in the media is posturing. Negotiations are going on hard behind the scenes. The Iranians are hard men but I am sure they are also intelligent.
At the end of the day, nobody really wants to die
  • #127,266
  • Apr 7, 2026 10:18am Apr 7, 2026 10:18am
Quoting gatorinla
Nasdaq has some R up there. A lot of ME money funds the (NASDAQ) techs ai etc. IRAN may have killed the goose laying those gold eggs. They may need some living expense cash if the oil money is gone. (Country rebuilding) Those militaries have about 15% of there own people, 85% mercenaries. That is very expensive. Plus the social system gives the citizens a check. That likely would force massive selling. All Iran has to do is cut off the water/power. Those pretty buildings in the sand will be empty. Iran knows this. The Russel is still on the bull...
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  • #127,267
  • Apr 7, 2026 10:24am Apr 7, 2026 10:24am
Quoting 1candlepower
{quote} Maybe because of Pakistan? 1) Pakistan has become very chummy with Trump, 2) Iran's quid-pro-quo has been you destroy our economic viability (with destruction of power generation and bridges) and we'll make everyone in the area sorry they had anything to do with the US, Saudi Arabia in particular (implying they won't take the deal,) 3)Pakistan and the Saudi's have Sunni dominated countries, with Pakistan and the Saudi's having a mutual defense pact of some kind and 4) Pakistan has hinted that it could be invoked if Iran does major infrastructure...
So your ok with ww3? I'm not too old to remember when Iran's nuke program was blown to oblivion. He was lying then, and he lying now. A bunch or rich guys rape some little girls and boys and this is the result.
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  • #127,268
  • Apr 7, 2026 11:03am Apr 7, 2026 11:03am
EC is bullish into some decent R at .9259. I took a shot at a short.
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  • #127,269
  • Apr 7, 2026 11:16am Apr 7, 2026 11:16am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} So your ok with ww3? I'm not too old to remember when Iran's nuke program was blown to oblivion. He was lying then, and he lying now. A bunch or rich guys rape some little girls and boys and this is the result.
just sayin it's not as bad as it looks. eu is climbing a "wall of worry" created by excessive fear mongering this morning - lotta short worrywarts losing money as it goes up.
  • #127,270
  • Apr 7, 2026 11:48am Apr 7, 2026 11:48am
Quoting 1candlepower
{quote} just sayin it's not as bad as it looks. eu is climbing a "wall of worry" created by excessive fear mongering this morning - lotta short worrywarts losing money as it goes up.
Fear mongering is what got us here. Fear of crossdressers and immigrants. Iran is real, the potential of ww3 is real. Look who supplies Iran. Its not fearmongering to open ones eyes. We bombed at least 3 continents. We threatened NATO. We started a war. People better wake up. Look at the bond market. I was raised by a WW2 sniper, This would disgust him. We got an idiot who knows nothing in that little mind. Thinks he is smarter than the generals. Surrounded by ass suckers who don't tell the king how bad things are. Just like Putin's 3 day war. This moron is surrounded by other morons in our 3 day war. Wake up. He fired the generals who told him not to do this. Look the job reports when he left last time. He fucked up a booming economy. Look at this times job reports.. Its a net 0. That reality no matter how much lipstick you put on it.
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  • #127,271
  • Edited 12:42pm Apr 7, 2026 12:25pm | Edited 12:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Fear mongering is what got us here. Fear of crossdressers and immigrants. Iran is real, the potential of ww3 is real. Look who supplies Iran. Its not fearmongering to open ones eyes. We bombed at least 3 continents. We threatened NATO. We started a war. People better wake up. Look at the bond market. I was raised by a WW2 sniper, This would disgust him. We got an idiot who knows nothing in that little mind. Thinks he is smarter than the generals. Surrounded by ass suckers who don't tell the king how bad things are. Just like Putin's 3 day...
Okay. Maybe I should say that the worrywarts are being scared silly by the unusually dense stream of negative news reports (AND that no one is manipulating the timing and content of the feed.) But, it's still a wall of worry that's stopping out a lot of shorts and I think Iran is more motivated than they appear to stop acting crazy.

Things are gonna work out (assuming the uranium doesn't go missing.)

Interesting note: what the eu is doing more resembles what the uj used to do at least once every couple weeks: "stair stepping." Stair stepping is like a wall of worry; but, it moves up in steps (actually looks like stair steps!) Seldom see eu do it.
  • #127,272
  • Apr 7, 2026 2:49pm Apr 7, 2026 2:49pm
Quoting 1candlepower
{quote} Okay. Maybe I should say that the worrywarts are being scared silly by the unusually dense stream of negative news reports (AND that no one is manipulating the timing and content of the feed.) But, it's still a wall of worry that's stopping out a lot of shorts and I think Iran is more motivated than they appear to stop acting crazy. Things are gonna work out (assuming the uranium doesn't go missing.) Interesting note: what the eu is doing more resembles what the uj used to do at least once every couple weeks: "stair stepping." Stair stepping...
Bonds are routinely sold to Japan China etc. They are cutting back. When they stop buying, more are bought domestically through banks, pensions etc... That's the safety net. This can get away from the USA very quickly. Liquidity can dry up quickly. If banks are buying bonds. There is less money to loan. If they are buying bonds, that's less demand for stock prices. Bonds prices are easing up near 5%. Yeah that happens normally. Normally no big deal. It wont matter on a chart. But when Japan, China and others are pulling back. It causes a rise in rates. Banks are in the market. Not so much for the 5%. But they feel safer buying bonds over lending money. The investment banks feel safer on a rising bond market with bonds, over a shrinking stock market. That don't put out a big press release. Things are inching in this direction. The usa debt is mounting. He is asking for another trillion. We got some expirations that will be refinanced at a higher rate. Japan and China see this.
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  • #127,273
  • Apr 7, 2026 2:58pm Apr 7, 2026 2:58pm
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} Well, anybody who's country is getting bombed back to Stone Age would want a cease fire. What you hear in the media is posturing. Negotiations are going on hard behind the scenes. The Iranians are hard men but I am sure they are also intelligent.
no doubt that there are talks happening in the background, if not with the current regime it would be with someone else.
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
  • #127,274
  • Apr 7, 2026 4:09pm Apr 7, 2026 4:09pm
Quoting johncen
{quote} no doubt that there are talks happening in the background, if not with the current regime it would be with someone else.
A cornered animal will strike out. Iran, Epstein, Cabinet, Venezuela, Alex Jones, Pope, MTG, Tillis, Massie and others. He cant bullshit his way out anymore. The cabinet will have to take away his football, or a stroke out coming
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  • #127,275
  • Apr 7, 2026 4:14pm Apr 7, 2026 4:14pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Bonds are routinely sold to Japan China etc. They are cutting back. When they stop buying, more are bought domestically through banks, pensions etc... That's the safety net. This can get away from the USA very quickly. Liquidity can dry up quickly. If banks are buying bonds. There is less money to loan. If they are buying bonds, that's less demand for stock prices. Bonds prices are easing up near 5%. Yeah that happens normally. Normally no big deal. It wont matter on a chart. But when Japan, China and others are pulling back. It causes a...
I found this.. this ai is better than I explaining.
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  • #127,276
  • Apr 7, 2026 4:31pm Apr 7, 2026 4:31pm
this calculation is likely part of the reason Buffet went to cash.
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  • #127,277
  • Apr 7, 2026 6:03pm Apr 7, 2026 6:03pm
Brent and WTI back in a range zone.
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  • #127,278
  • Edited Apr 8, 2026 1:44am Apr 7, 2026 6:12pm | Edited Apr 8, 2026 1:44am
Quoting johncen
{quote} no doubt that there are talks happening in the background, if not with the current regime it would be with someone else.
Iran just accepted the ceasefire. I knew all the media resistance from Iran was posturing. They were getting bombed to Stone Age. They are not daft. If this continued, all their leaders would be on the other side of life and who ever is left would lose whatever grasp they had on power. I personally don't listen to the media I watch to see what happens.

Trump might be everything, but he gets his way. And oh, he is willing to go the full hog to get his wish. As for Iran, the idea of having nuclear weapons will be perished forever. And maybe the wonderful women over there would have some freedom.

What matters to me right now is that my heavy gold buys are smiling. I should jump out at 4915 and aim to sell between 5000 and 5138.
  • #127,279
  • Apr 7, 2026 6:23pm Apr 7, 2026 6:23pm
Quoting Mitiblotch
{quote} Iran just accepted the ceasefire. I knew all the media resistance from Iran was posturing. They were getting bombed to Stone Age. They are not daft. If this continued, all their leaders would be on the other side of life and who ever is left would lose whatever grasp they had on power. I personally don't listen to the media I watch to see what happens. Trump is might be everything, but he gets his way. And oh, he is willing to go the full hog to get his wish. As for Iran, the idea of having nuclear weapons will be perished forever. And maybe...
So if the deal Iran gets is better than the deal they had years ago. The one Trump tore up. Do you really think Trump won? It cost 100 billion and counting in U.S. bases. Not including the planes etc. lost. That's a loss. Trump's friends were short oil, and long stocks.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #127,280
  • Apr 7, 2026 6:40pm Apr 7, 2026 6:40pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} So if the deal Iran gets is better than the deal they had years ago. The one Trump tore up. Do you really think Trump won? It cost 100 billion and counting in U.S. bases. Not including the planes etc. lost. That's a loss. Trump's friends were short oil, and long stocks.
its using a 10 point plan produced by Iran, thats a win for Iran. Also the big question will Israel accept? Lebanaon is tied to the deal. Also with regard to costs, Iran has had reperations as pard of the conditios. All to be negotiated but there are a lot of bumps in the road ahead.
Its all just one persons opinion
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