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  • #41
  • Apr 2, 2026 8:41am Apr 2, 2026 8:41am
Interesting concept. I have a few questions.

1. How did you arrive at the specific times?
2. Is there a sequence to the time?
3. How long is a time signal element valid?
4. Is it fractal in nature in that what is loaded on 1 minute will apply to 3 minute, 5 minute and 7 minute?
5. The dates in the text don't go beyond the year 2026. Where will the projections for 2027 come from? How will you arrive at them? Is it possible to create an indicator MT5 or Tradingview script that automatically does the projections?
6. How do you treat signals that overlap with opening gaps? Do large opening gaps affect or have any impact on the signals?
7. Do macro-economic factors like US Israel Iran War that occur over the weekend affect the projections?

Thank you.
  • #42
  • Apr 2, 2026 11:16am Apr 2, 2026 11:16am
Quoting klopp433
Interesting concept. I have a few questions. 1. How did you arrive at the specific times? 2. Is there a sequence to the time? 3. How long is a time signal element valid? 4. Is it fractal in nature in that what is loaded on 1 minute will apply to 3 minute, 5 minute and 7 minute? 5. The dates in the text don't go beyond the year 2026. Where will the projections for 2027 come from? How will you arrive at them? Is it possible to create an indicator MT5 or Tradingview script that automatically does the projections? 6. How do you treat signals that overlap...
Thank you for your thoughtful and precise questions — they go directly to the core of this approach. I’ll answer step by step.
⸻
1. How were the specific times determined?
The model is based on statistical and nonlinear analysis of market behavior.
Over time, it became clear that market movements tend to occur within recurring time windows.
These moments are defined as:
Liquidity Activation Points (timings)
They are not random — they reflect repeating patterns in liquidity behavior and order flow.
⸻
2. Is there a sequence to time?
Yes, there is a structured relationship.
Timings are not isolated — they are connected within the trading day and week.
They often form:
Momentum Clusters (timing spectrums)
These clusters increase the probability of an impulse.
⸻
3. How long is a timing valid?
A timing is most relevant within a narrow window around its expected moment.
For example, in a 7-minute model:
• the active window is approximately ±3 minutes
• in practice, up to ~10 minutes total
Example:
Buy timing at 17:30 → active window: 17:27–17:40
This is the period where trade decisions are made.
Timings can be analyzed:
• individually
• or as part of a broader structure
Under certain conditions (especially before major news):
• timings may shift
• or execute with delay
In such cases, the signal is not invalid — it is displaced in time.
⸻
4. Is the model fractal?
Partially.
The system operates across multiple time compressions:
• short-term (e.g., 7 minutes)
• higher-level (e.g., 60 minutes)
Different intervals can be used depending on the trading objective.
When short-term and higher-level timings align,
the probability of movement increases significantly.
However, this is not a strict fractal replication —
each timeframe has its own statistical behavior.
⸻
5. What about projections beyond 2026?
Projections are not pre-generated years in advance.
They are calculated dynamically based on:
• rolling historical data (typically 5–8 weeks — most effective for intraday trading)
• current market structure
The core model focuses on weekly projections,
but longer-term projections are also possible.
There is already an implementation in the form of:
• an indicator (for visualization and manual trading)
• an automated system (for execution and optimization)
⸻
6. How do you treat opening gaps?
Gaps do not invalidate the model, but they affect execution.
In such cases:
• price context becomes critical
• Execution Filters (entry rules) must be applied
Gaps can:
• accelerate movement
• or temporarily distort market reaction
Statistically, opening gaps tend to move in the direction of the timings that were closer to the previous session close.
⸻
7. Do macro factors (e.g., geopolitics) affect projections?
Yes — but not directly.
They do not cancel the time structure.
They can:
• increase volatility
• shift timing execution
• change the character of movement
In many cases, the signal remains valid,
but executes stronger or later.
⸻
Core Idea
This approach is not about predicting news.
It is about understanding:
when the market is ready to move
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  • #43
  • Apr 2, 2026 12:34pm Apr 2, 2026 12:34pm
I attached the script on the chart and it is not matching the price action after that. I'm not sure about calculation but this looks to me like gambling 50:50, maybe I'm right maybe not. One of the first thing I learn about trading is that it is not the gambling and that You CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE.
If You explain the way and the reason behind the calculation maybe I will be less sceptic.
Why did I write this? I am working as a freelancer and few years ago I had a client who asked from me to program the same indicator. The Input parameter was starting date. When I asked the client why he choose , eg. 14.07.2023. he didn't want to explain me, and also all conversation between us was dimly.

Please if You can clarify me Your rules I will be grateful.
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  • #44
  • Apr 2, 2026 2:30pm Apr 2, 2026 2:30pm
Quoting forexza
I attached the script on the chart and it is not matching the price action after that. I'm not sure about calculation but this looks to me like gambling 50:50, maybe I'm right maybe not. One of the first thing I learn about trading is that it is not the gambling and that You CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE. If You explain the way and the reason behind the calculation maybe I will be less sceptic. Why did I write this? I am working as a freelancer and few years ago I had a client who asked from me to program the same indicator. The Input parameter was starting...
Thank you for your honest feedback — I really appreciate it.
Skepticism is healthy in trading, and your questions are absolutely valid.
Let me clarify a few important points.
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1. About “not matching price action”
This approach is not designed to match price visually on every signal.
Liquidity Activation Points (timings) are not “entry signals” by themselves.
They indicate when the market is likely to react, not what it must do instantly.
What often happens:
• the reaction can be delayed
• the move can start slightly before or after
• or the market may show a weak response in low-liquidity conditions
That’s why timing always requires context, not blind execution.
⸻
2. Is it gambling (50:50)?
I understand why it may look like that at first.
But the difference is:
• gambling → no structure, no repeatability
• this approach → statistical time structure + behavior patterns
The edge comes from:
• repetition of timing behavior
• grouping into Momentum Clusters (timing spectrums)
• filtering using context
So it’s not about being right every time.
It’s about working with probability and structure, not randomness.
⸻
3. “You can’t predict the future”
I fully agree.
This approach does not try to predict the future in a classical sense.
It identifies moments when the probability of movement increases.
We are not predicting direction with certainty.
We are identifying when the market is ready to move.
⸻
4. About the calculation logic
I understand your concern, especially given your past experience.
The model is not based on arbitrary dates or hidden parameters.
It is built on:
• statistical analysis of market behavior
• repeated time-based patterns
• rolling historical data (not fixed starting points)
There is no “magic date” input.
The calculations are dynamic and adapt to recent market structure.
⸻
5. Why it may look inconsistent at first
Common reasons:
• ignoring timing windows (too early / too late entry)
• not applying Execution Filters (entry rules)
• trading during news or low-liquidity periods
• evaluating single signals instead of structure
This approach is less about single points,
and more about how timings behave over a sequence.
⸻
Final Thought
You’re absolutely right to question things — that’s the correct mindset.
This is not a “believe it or not” system.
It’s something that needs to be:
• observed
• tested
• and understood through behavior, not just visuals
If you’re open to it, I’d suggest:
observe how timings behave over several months,
not just a few trades or days.
That’s where the structure becomes clear.

Best regards, Iryna
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  • #45
  • Apr 2, 2026 2:33pm Apr 2, 2026 2:33pm
XAUUSD // UTC+3 // Timing performance on April 2, 2026.

Timings are presented as is and are calculated one week in advance.
Rays represent 60-minute forecasts, flags represent 7-minute forecasts.
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  • #46
  • Edited 11:35pm Apr 2, 2026 2:59pm | Edited 11:35pm
Trade Time. Not Price.
A Practical Approach to Timing the Market Instead of Chasing Price
⸻
Introduction
Most traders are trained to focus on price.

They draw levels.
They wait for breakouts.
They react to indicators.

But there is a fundamental problem with this approach:
Price is the result. Not the cause.

By the time you see movement on the chart —
the real opportunity has already started.
This raises a simple but powerful question:
What if the key is not where price goes…
but when it moves?

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The Core Shift
Traditional trading:
• Observe price
• Wait for confirmation
• Enter after movement

This creates a constant delay.
A different approach focuses on time.

Price is noise. Time is signal.

Markets move in specific time windows where:
• liquidity is activated
• short-term imbalances appear
• impulses are formed
These moments can be identified in advance.
⸻
Liquidity Activation Points (timings)

Instead of reacting to price,
we focus on Liquidity Activation Points (timings).
These are:
• predefined moments in time
• where the probability of movement increases significantly

Important:

A timing is not just a mark on the chart.
It is a trigger of market activity.

When a timing is reached, one of two things usually happens:
• a new impulse begins
• or the current move exhausts and reverses
⸻
How the Weekly Structure Works

The market is not random throughout the week.
There is a time structure that can be projected in advance.

For each trading week, you can define:
• key time windows
• expected movement strength
• context for execution
This allows you to:
• prepare before the session
• avoid random entries
• focus only on high-probability moments
⸻
Expected Volatility Range (points/pips)

Not all movements are worth trading.
Each time window has an estimated potential:
Expected Volatility Range (points/pips)
This helps to:
• filter out weak signals
• set realistic profit targets
• avoid trades that cannot cover spread and commissions
⸻
Momentum Clusters
One of the most powerful concepts is:
Momentum Clusters
These occur when:
• multiple time signals appear close to each other (1–6 minutes apart)
• all aligned in the same direction
This usually indicates:
• accumulation of pressure
• higher probability of a strong move
• continuation of impulse
Practical rule:
• if a single signal conflicts with an upcoming cluster → ignore the single signal
• always follow the direction of the cluster
⸻
Execution Filters

Timing alone is not enough.
You need context.
This is where Execution Filters come in.

1. Extremes (Highs / Lows)
• Buy signals at highs → high probability of reversal
• Sell signals at lows → same logic
Better approach:
• wait for reaction
• trade in the opposite direction of the extreme
⸻
2. Weak Movement Potential
If the expected range is too small:
• it may not cover costs
• probability of failure increases
Best decision: skip.
⸻
3. Price Behavior Before Timing
• Buy works best after a decline
• Sell works best after a rise
Timing acts as a correction point,
not a continuation of an overextended move.
⸻
Market Behavior Across the Month
The market is influenced by contract cycles.
Practical observation:
• Weeks 2–3 → highest efficiency
• Weeks 1 and 4 → require more filtering and price context
Additionally:
• first Friday → major macro data
• expiration periods → unstable behavior
⸻
Trading Logic
This approach is simple, but not easy.
You:
1. Know time windows in advance
2. Wait for the moment
3. Observe price reaction
4. Execute based on context
5. Take profit within expected range
This is not prediction.
This is structured anticipation.
⸻
Key Advantage
Most traders:
• chase movement
• enter late
• rely on confirmation
Here, the advantage comes from:
• timing precision
• pre-defined structure
• reduced emotional pressure
⸻
Mindset Shift
You don’t react. You anticipate.
Instead of asking:
“Where should I enter?”
You ask:
“Is this the right moment?”
⸻
Conclusion
Markets are not random.
They follow repeating patterns in time.
When you start focusing on time:
• entries become clearer
• decisions become faster
• trading becomes structured

You stop chasing price.
You start working with the moment.

Trade Time. Not Price.

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  • #47
  • Apr 2, 2026 9:05pm Apr 2, 2026 9:05pm
Hi.. Thanks your sharing..
For those who was studied about 'time' in trading should fully understand the objectives of the author..
Your explanation robust and easy to understand..

i use simple astrology and math in trading xau for confirmations before entry. If there is setup of price action.. i will look at time..
if no time setup.. i will just scalping hit and run.
The best trade is when time, sequence, and price actions simultaneously appear. But not every day The combination time and price allign.
  • #48
  • Apr 2, 2026 11:19pm Apr 2, 2026 11:19pm
Quoting rosy440
Trade Time. Not Price. A Practical Approach to Timing the Market Instead of Chasing Price ⸻ Introduction Most traders are trained to focus on price. They draw levels. They wait for breakouts. They react to indicators. But there is a fundamental problem with this approach: Price is the result. Not the cause. By the time you see movement on the chart — the real opportunity has already started. This raises a simple but powerful question: What if the key is not where price goes… but when it moves? {image} The Core Shift Traditional trading: •...
confused...Is this a thesis for a degree program, or is it also about practical trading?
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #49
  • Apr 3, 2026 12:33am Apr 3, 2026 12:33am
Quoting hajiuntung66
Hi.. Thanks your sharing.. For those who was studied about 'time' in trading should fully understand the objectives of the author.. Your explanation robust and easy to understand.. i use simple astrology and math in trading xau for confirmations before entry. If there is setup of price action.. i will look at time.. if no time setup.. i will just scalping hit and run. The best trade is when time, sequence, and price actions simultaneously appear. But not every day The combination time and price allign.
With all respect, I don't understand the connection between astrology and trading.
  • #50
  • Apr 3, 2026 12:34am Apr 3, 2026 12:34am
Quoting hajiuntung66
Hi.. Thanks your sharing.. For those who was studied about 'time' in trading should fully understand the objectives of the author.. Your explanation robust and easy to understand.. i use simple astrology and math in trading xau for confirmations before entry. If there is setup of price action.. i will look at time.. if no time setup.. i will just scalping hit and run. The best trade is when time, sequence, and price actions simultaneously appear. But not every day The combination time and price allign.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment — I really appreciate your perspective.
You’re absolutely right: when time, sequence, and price align, the quality of the setup increases significantly. Those moments are not frequent, but they tend to produce the most structured and efficient moves.
What you described is very close to the core idea.
Time acts as a filter.
Even when there is a valid price setup, the absence of a clear time structure often leads to:
• weaker movement
• slower execution
• or incomplete follow-through
And as you mentioned, not every day provides full alignment —
that’s a very important observation.
In this approach, Liquidity Activation Points (timings) help identify moments when the market is more likely to engage.
When these moments combine into Momentum Clusters (timing spectrums),
the probability of a stronger impulse increases.
So instead of trading every setup,
the focus shifts to trading the right moments.
Your approach of combining time with confirmation is very logical.
Over time, it becomes less about adding more tools,
and more about recognizing when the market is actually ready.
Thank you again for sharing your experience.

Best regards, Iryna
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  • #51
  • Apr 3, 2026 6:38am Apr 3, 2026 6:38am
Quoting birdland
{quote} confused...Is this a thesis for a degree program, or is it also about practical trading?
Thank you for taking the time to look at my trading journal.
I understand why it may seem that way — but I suppose all the “degrees” are already completed

This is a practical trading approach, simply with an explanation behind it. Otherwise, how would it work? If I only posted timings, it wouldn’t be clear to everyone how to use them.
The idea itself is quite simple:
• identify Liquidity Activation Points (timings)
• observe how price behaves at those moments
• and make decisions within those time windows

The theoretical part is only there to explain why it works,
not to make things more complicated.

In the end, everything comes down to a simple question:
Is this the moment when the market is ready to move?
If yes — act.
If not — wait.
That’s it.

Best regards, Iryna
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  • #52
  • Apr 3, 2026 7:06am Apr 3, 2026 7:06am
XAUUSD // UTC+3 // Timing performance on April 2, 2026.

Timings are presented as is and are calculated one week in advance.
Rays represent 60-minute forecasts, flags represent 7-minute forecasts.

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  • #53
  • Apr 4, 2026 2:38am Apr 4, 2026 2:38am
Hi Rosy,

How can we see the Rays (60min forecast). do we need any MT5 files?




Quoting rosy440
XAUUSD // UTC+3 // Timing performance on April 2, 2026. Timings are presented as is and are calculated one week in advance. Rays represent 60-minute forecasts, flags represent 7-minute forecasts. {file} Timing-Based Market Forecasting System #scalping #MarketStructure #TimeTrading
  • #54
  • Apr 4, 2026 4:08am Apr 4, 2026 4:08am
Quoting smartvin
Hi Rosy, How can we see the Rays (60min forecast). do we need any MT5 files? {quote}
XAUUSD // UTC+3 // Timing performance on March 30-April 2, 2026.

Timings are presented as is and are calculated one week in advance.
Rays represent 60-minute forecasts, flags represent 60-minute forecasts.

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  • #55
  • Apr 4, 2026 6:31am Apr 4, 2026 6:31am
Quoting smartvin
Hi Rosy, How can we see the Rays (60min forecast). do we need any MT5 files? {quote}
XAUUSD // UTC+3 // The timings file is 60 minutes for the script. March 30 - April 2, 2026.
flags represent 60-minute forecasts

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  • #56
  • Apr 4, 2026 3:47pm Apr 4, 2026 3:47pm
Hi Rosy,

When I run the script, I can see the flag at the bottom of the chart, but I can't see any rays (60 min). Do I miss anything?



quote=rosy440;15643115]{quote} XAUUSD // UTC+3 // The timings file is 60 minutes for the script. March 30 - April 2, 2026. flags represent 60-minute forecasts {file} Timing-Based Market Forecasting System #scalping #MarketStructure #TimeTrading[/quote]
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  • #57
  • Apr 4, 2026 4:19pm Apr 4, 2026 4:19pm
Quoting smartvin
Hi Rosy, When I run the script, I can see the flag at the bottom of the chart, but I can't see any rays (60 min). Do I miss anything? quote=rosy440;15643115]{quote} XAUUSD // UTC+3 // The timings file is 60 minutes for the script. March 30 - April 2, 2026. flags represent 60-minute forecasts {file} Timing-Based Market Forecasting System #scalping #MarketStructure...
{image}[/quote]

Hi Smartvin,

The script only has flags. They can display timings of different durations. You asked me for 60 minutes. Previously, there was a file with 7-minute timings. The script is created for familiarizing with timings, so it doesn’t have any additional functions.
Best regards, Iryna
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  • #58
  • Apr 5, 2026 5:40am Apr 5, 2026 5:40am
Weekly Liquidity Activation Points (timings) (Apr 6–10, 2026).
Watch Momentum Clusters (timing spectrums) for potential impulse.
Market conditions may change — always follow proper risk management.

XAUUSD 7 min // UTC+3


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  • #59
  • Apr 5, 2026 9:56am Apr 5, 2026 9:56am
XAGUSD|Weekly Liquidity Activation Points (timings) (Apr 6–10, 2026).
Watch Momentum Clusters (timing spectrums) for potential impulse.
Market conditions may change — always follow proper risk management.

XAGUSD 7 min // UTC+3

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  • #60
  • Apr 5, 2026 10:52pm Apr 5, 2026 10:52pm
For convenience, you can use a simple MT5 script that displays timings directly on the chart.
Its purpose is visualization only (no points calculation or additional functions). The timings in the script may differ slightly from the text version. This does not affect the overall background of the analysis.

XAUUSD 7 min // UTC+3 // Apr 6–10, 2026

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