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  • #4,301
  • Mar 25, 2026 12:30pm Mar 25, 2026 12:30pm
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} Kept trades on so got the DIVI, just need the 10144 to BE...
Looking good, well held.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,302
  • Mar 25, 2026 1:42pm Mar 25, 2026 1:42pm
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} Looking good, well held.
power of a big bank small lots, but it only comes with small profits ...but " a steady drip fills the pot"...
  • #4,303
  • Mar 25, 2026 1:51pm Mar 25, 2026 1:51pm
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} power of a big bank small lots, but it only comes with small profits ...but " a steady drip fills the pot"...
100%, it's how I trade, problem is my FTSE broker requires quite a high min stake which I'm not comfortable with when things go south.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,304
  • Mar 25, 2026 2:52pm Mar 25, 2026 2:52pm
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} 100%, it's how I trade, problem is my FTSE broker requires quite a high min stake which I'm not comfortable with when things go south.
IG low as a penny...
  • #4,305
  • Mar 25, 2026 3:00pm Mar 25, 2026 3:00pm
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} IG low as a penny...
I was at minimum 10x that on FTSE, hence why I bailed, plus I like to keep plenty of margin in the bank for my long term hedge/average positions, what's the minimum on EU at IG? Remember I had an account with them ages ago which started off low but as as time went on they kept raising the minimum stake, at one point I was trading at min 50p on some assets, makes forward testing a bit fruity at times.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,306
  • Mar 25, 2026 11:35pm Mar 25, 2026 11:35pm
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} I was at minimum 10x that on FTSE, hence why I bailed, plus I like to keep plenty of margin in the bank for my long term hedge/average positions, what's the minimum on EU at IG? Remember I had an account with them ages ago which started off low but as as time went on they kept raising the minimum stake, at one point I was trading at min 50p on some assets, makes forward testing a bit fruity at times.
Yes you are right it was £0.50 minimum then overnight dropped to 0.01p great for testing like demo but with a bit of spice...
  • #4,307
  • Mar 30, 2026 9:23am Mar 30, 2026 9:23am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} Yes you are right it was £0.50 minimum then overnight dropped to 0.01p great for testing like demo but with a bit of spice...
Rob, did you claw back/profit from both divs? My EU is repairing most of the damage done by my lightweight bailout on last week's div.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,308
  • Mar 30, 2026 10:03am Mar 30, 2026 10:03am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} Rob, did you claw back/profit from both divs? My EU is repairing most of the damage done by my lightweight bailout on last week's div.
still hanging in there BE now very close 10144
  • #4,309
  • Mar 30, 2026 10:43am Mar 30, 2026 10:43am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} still hanging in there BE now very close 10144
well that's BE will close around 10160 for profit...
  • #4,310
  • Mar 30, 2026 4:40pm Mar 30, 2026 4:40pm
Long live the div
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,311
  • Mar 31, 2026 3:03am Mar 31, 2026 3:03am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} well that's BE will close around 10160 for profit...
Bonza, cashed in ...
  • #4,312
  • Mar 31, 2026 3:06am Mar 31, 2026 3:06am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} Bonza, cashed in ...
Nice one.
  • #4,313
  • Apr 1, 2026 1:25am Apr 1, 2026 1:25am
I think that's DIVI GAP closed in just under 2 weeks, so still 100% record but that has got to be the worst one yet with the speed and distance it dropped, did I make money yes, did I enjoy it NO, nothing this week, will just crack on with the slow boring " Averaging and hedging" ...
  • #4,314
  • Apr 1, 2026 2:10am Apr 1, 2026 2:10am
Such large drops aren’t good for the heart for sure but we can’t deny the div has always returned home. I’m more comfortable with my boring, longer-term hedging/averaging/swap trades which are actually based on a similar assumption that price rarely moves in a straight line.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #4,315
  • Apr 1, 2026 2:29am Apr 1, 2026 2:29am
Quoting LazyTrades
Such large drops aren’t good for the heart for sure but we can’t deny the div has always returned home. I’m more comfortable with my boring, longer-term hedging/averaging/swap trades which are actually based on a similar assumption that price rarely moves in a straight line.
Same here, will still trade the DIVI but with smaller lots and bigger gaps between averaging...
  • #4,316
  • Apr 1, 2026 5:14am Apr 1, 2026 5:14am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} Same here, will still trade the DIVI but with smaller lots and bigger gaps between averaging...
Hey, Hey... due to my specialisation on that kind of trades: have you checked you max drawdown? I think it exceeded all earnings from last year, right? so I assume if you made 5000$ your drawdown was probably 15000$? - would be interesting to know the drawdown compared to the earnings last year. When my ratio in such a trade goes >3 months loss I skip the system, it'S not worth than for me. The divi trade has a real edge but the problem is you cannot really exploit it- except with very small positions. I wonder how T21 was handling that... the earns about 100$ per point or even more... imagine his drawdown on that position max... holy

here is a tip for future trading: add much much less often... you don't need that - when the market returns- they can only kill you by adding too early... but i think you got to know that now lol - i keep track of that strategy and I'm really curious how it will play out of 5 years time.
  • #4,317
  • Apr 6, 2026 5:22am Apr 6, 2026 5:22am
14.96 this week let's hope it will be a quick one, but with proper MM you can ride the 2 weekers out...
  • #4,318
  • Apr 8, 2026 10:53am Apr 8, 2026 10:53am
Quoting Waveskierrob
14.96 this week let's hope it will be a quick one, but with proper MM you can ride the 2 weekers out...
Very quick this week.
  • #4,319
  • Apr 9, 2026 1:30am Apr 9, 2026 1:30am
Quoting zola
{quote} Very quick this week.
yea missed it , but still 100%
  • #4,320
  • Apr 15, 2026 7:52am Apr 15, 2026 7:52am
Just a little one today worth a punt, seeing it had 100% success rate...
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