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  • #1,361
  • Nov 24, 2025 9:29pm Nov 24, 2025 9:29pm
Quoting OutThere
Why would she care .
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she was just being sassy and comical..... running her mouth...... she had no clue who we were talking about.....

when looking at the number of darwins in all the countries, it really surprised me......

columbia has 500, which is more than all the far east countries combined..... china, japan , philippenes, thailand and all those.....

not really sure why i like darwin so much...... just seems to fit me.....

regular prop firms are ok, but the close all trades by 4pm annoys me......

like the drunk at the bar at closing time.......h
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  • #1,362
  • Edited 11:55pm Nov 24, 2025 11:14pm | Edited 11:55pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- she was just being sassy and comical..... running her mouth...... she had no clue who we were talking about..... when looking at the number of darwins in all the countries, it really surprised me...... columbia has 500, which is more than all the far east countries combined..... china, japan , philippenes, thailand and all those..... not really sure why i like darwin so much...... just seems to fit me..... regular prop firms are ok, but the close all trades by 4pm annoys me...... like the drunk at the bar at closing time.......h
Maybe there is a Columbian influencer on the net but the Spanish language helps.
Did you not used to take challenges with props? I think it was Myfundedfx? They don't all make you close at 4. Maybe in futures? You need to come back to your roots in cfds.
I forgot, you are in nomansland
I'll take those back. Lol
  • #1,363
  • Nov 25, 2025 12:56am Nov 25, 2025 12:56am
A shoot or trade moment
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  • #1,364
  • Nov 25, 2025 2:42am Nov 25, 2025 2:42am
Quoting OutThere
Did you not used to take challenges with props? I think it was Myfundedfx? They don't all make you close at 4. Maybe in futures? You need to come back to your roots in cfds.
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yes, really enjoyed all those..... but some left the states and most pulled metatrader, without it i'm lost......

going to be a boat load of money made or lost today....

get out your floaties and life preservers.....h
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  • #1,365
  • Nov 25, 2025 4:37am Nov 25, 2025 4:37am
just noticed they changed the darwin web page up a little this morning.....h
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  • #1,366
  • Nov 25, 2025 8:46am Nov 25, 2025 8:46am
Quoting hayseed
just noticed they changed the darwin web page up a little this morning.....h
On the DZero website, it looks like they are getting ready to allow multiple Darwins for the one email address. Great idea because then you only need to setup your bank details once and it will be for all accounts linked to that email address right? That's how I read it.
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  • #1,367
  • Nov 25, 2025 10:40am Nov 25, 2025 10:40am
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} On the DZero website, it looks like they are getting ready to allow multiple Darwins for the one email address. Great idea because then you only need to setup your bank details once and it will be for all accounts linked to that email address right? That's how I read it.
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not sure what they are up to...... a single login would be nice.....

they seem to be pushing that tribe nonsense....

we need to start our own tribe...... all we need is a name.....

"mavericks" or "clueless" sound about right....

or, "clueless mavericks"......h
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  • #1,368
  • Edited 11:52am Nov 25, 2025 11:04am | Edited 11:52am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- not sure what they are up to...... a single login would be nice..... they seem to be pushing that tribe nonsense.... we need to start our own tribe...... all we need is a name..... "mavericks" or "clueless" sound about right.... or, "clueless mavericks"......h
I like "The Hayseeds" (very original).

Other names could be "Try Hards", "Trader Duffle Bags", "The Goonies", "Juan's Biggest Drawdowns", "The Goodies", "The Pretenders", "The Stranded Survivors", "The Calibration Clowns", "The Subscription Suckers", "The Permanent Boosters"
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  • #1,369
  • Nov 25, 2025 12:07pm Nov 25, 2025 12:07pm
Quoting codemaster75
"The Calibration Clowns"
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funny you should say that...... i'm working on something strictly for the 15 day calibration period right now.....

the calibration period is the most forgiving in terms of var..... var determines the risk multiplier......

quite a few of the highest darwins run very high vars...... if we know someone's var, we also know their risk multiplier..... many have very low risk multipliers yet still out preform us.....

if a low var and high multiplier were so important, how can that be.......

we might need to spend more time understanding how best to use the calibration period to our favor......

the accounts below are only 6 days into calibration......h
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  • #1,370
  • Nov 25, 2025 12:35pm Nov 25, 2025 12:35pm
drawdown is another thing that is easy to look at the wrong way.....

makayla has a 17,000 drawdown right now...... that might appear bad......

another way to look at is, if those trades breakeven she will make another 765 euros in performance fees on the 8th without even opening another trade......

she will make money on that drawdown......

her entry timing could have been better, but same could be said of me......h
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  • #1,371
  • Edited 11:17pm Nov 25, 2025 1:40pm | Edited 11:17pm
I think the answer is in the ability to be consistent. I believe, if you trade at a high var, then you can deviate a bit from your trading and it won't make much of a difference when it comes to the risk engine, whereas you don't have that luxury if you're trading at a low var.

Think about it. Say you're trading at 2 lots and sometimes you do 1.9 lots and sometimes you do 2.1 lots. If your Risk Multiplier is 0.1 for example then 0.1x2 = 0.2 lots, 0.1x1.9 = 0.19 lots and 0.1x2.1 = 0.21 lots. There is not a lot of difference there. The Risk Engine would still think you're very consistent.

On the other hand, say you're trading at 0.02 lots and you sometimes do 0.01 lots and sometimes 0.03 lots. If your Risk Multiplier is 10 for example then 0.02x10 = 0.2 lots, 0.01x10 = 0.1 lots, 0.03x10 = 0.3 lots. There is a lot of difference here and the Risk Engine might punish you for this.

I still believe if you can pull it off and be very consistent with a low var, then you will be better off than someone with a high var because if you keep the risk multiplier at a high value and trade say a trend following system, the risk engine might throw in a little bit extra and that little bit extra goes a long way if you multiply it by a high value. I don't believe it would make a difference if trading at a high var because it would be like looking through a telescope using the other end. This is how I think Kieran is beating the Risk Engine and good on him because I think it's the way to go. Easy to say, much harder to do.
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  • #1,372
  • Nov 26, 2025 1:13am Nov 26, 2025 1:13am
The following is for educational purposes only.

I just bailed out of a system running on my latest DZ account.
I have the account but pulled the plug on the ongoing strategy.
Been running none stop since Sep 17th.
Yes, involves marty but with a safeguard. Equity stop.
So those straight lines down are results of a protection mechanism.
Saved the account many times as you see. Every time starting over again. kinda like those robots that get kicked down and they get up and act as if nothing has happened.
That's very nice but unfortunately, it's not suited for DZ trading. That robot is gonna keep getting kicked down and then restart again. It's not horrible considering a .83 multiplier that has stayed pretty steady since the beginning.
But, it is turning out to be a sideways trade and survive strategy. Best suited for rebate collecting.
So, I bailed out.
Another much better system is already on it from fresh. I just had 2 fun months in the DZ lab and survived it while plotting a better way.
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  • #1,373
  • Nov 27, 2025 11:28pm Nov 27, 2025 11:28pm
peyton and i were working on something this afternoon after thanksgiving dinner......

using darwin's 3 month boosters which cost roughly 500$..... if you make 500$ each month and reinvest in another booster with each 500 made ...... so each 500 made from each new booster would again reinvest in another booster and so on...... it would resemble a lattice of 500's of sorts......

what would be the sequence of 500's........ in other words how much would you have at the end each month and the year.......

turns out the answer is "the lazy carters" sequence......... has to do with cutting a pancake...... or pumpkin pie.......

1, 2, 4, 7, 11, 16, 22, 29, 37, 46, 56, 67........

now, can she do it......h
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  • #1,374
  • Nov 27, 2025 11:57pm Nov 27, 2025 11:57pm
Quoting hayseed
peyton and i were working on something this afternoon after thanksgiving dinner...... using darwin's 3 month boosters which cost roughly 500$..... if you make 500$ each month and reinvest in another booster with each 500 made ...... so each 500 made from each new booster would again reinvest in another booster and so on...... it would resemble a lattice of 500's of sorts...... what would be the sequence of 500's........ in other words how much would you have at the end each month and the year....... turns out the answer is "the...
Confucius said:
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
  • #1,375
  • Nov 28, 2025 1:10am Nov 28, 2025 1:10am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Confucius said: A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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in this case, 33,500....... in a year from just 500.......

on the 23'rd makayla's var hit 12.94 and her risk multiplier dropped to 0.50...... they had this competition for the silver money going...... trading competitions are bad, at least in my view...... told her to knock that nonsense off.....

she has dropped her var almost 1 point in 5 days....... needs to drop 5 more points...... her risk multiplier is still 0.50 ......

var and risk multiplier really are not that important...... her account is less than 3 months old...... even if she does not place another trade she will make 3700 euros on the 8th.....

competition is ok in soccer and basketball...... but in trading it can lead to bad habits......h
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  • #1,376
  • Dec 1, 2025 11:35am Dec 1, 2025 11:35am
Quoting hayseed
peyton and i were working on something this afternoon after thanksgiving dinner...... using darwin's 3 month boosters which cost roughly 500$..... if you make 500$ each month and reinvest in another booster with each 500 made ...... so each 500 made from each new booster would again reinvest in another booster and so on...... it would resemble a lattice of 500's of sorts...... what would be the sequence of 500's........ in other words how much would you have at the end each month and the year....... turns out the answer is "the...
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makayla is now maxed out on allotments..... purchased 12 month 200,000k booster today and received the 30k silver allotment....... so total 400k in boosters and 100k in permanent..... 30k silver.....

providing she does not loose it all in next 7 days, looking at 3750 euro's on the 8th......

she should be able to average 3000 euro's per month now...

will max out allotments in all 4 accounts this week.....

have 9 more in calibration.....

will begin the lazy carter sequence reinvesting this month......h
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  • #1,377
  • Dec 1, 2025 12:34pm Dec 1, 2025 12:34pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ makayla is now maxed out on allotments..... purchased 12 month 200,000k booster today and received the 30k silver allotment....... so total 400k in boosters and 100k in permanent..... 30k silver..... providing she does not loose it all in next 7 days, looking at 3750 euro's on the 8th...... she should be able to average 3000 euro's per month now... will max out allotments in all 4 accounts this week..... have 9 more in calibration..... will begin the...
Great! Good luck.

What made you choose 12 months? The others were all 3 months right?

I haven't heard anything new about whether my existing Darwin can be maintained, but it doesn't look like it. However, I've started a new one which is currently in the calibration phase.
  • #1,378
  • Dec 1, 2025 1:25pm Dec 1, 2025 1:25pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Great! Good luck. What made you choose 12 months? The others were all 3 months right? I haven't heard anything new about whether my existing Darwin can be maintained, but it doesn't look like it. However, I've started a new one which is currently in the calibration phase.
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yes, with exception of the permanents, all others are 3 months...... maxed all 4 accounts out today.....

went with the 12 months for 2 reasons...... got tired of wasting time deciding which is best and preparing for the chance darwin might limit accounts......

final total paid for november was 5212...... december total should 20k max, have almost 16k made now..... it should increase 5k to 10k per month......

need 12 maxed out paying accounts to overcome the 15%..... and maybe 5 more for study purposes only......

really wish they would increase the allocation cap to 1 million......h
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  • #1,379
  • Dec 1, 2025 2:18pm Dec 1, 2025 2:18pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ yes, with exception of the permanents, all others are 3 months...... maxed all 4 accounts out today..... went with the 12 months for 2 reasons...... got tired of wasting time deciding which is best and preparing for the chance darwin might limit accounts...... final total paid for november was 5212...... december total should 20k max, have almost 16k made now..... it should increase 5k to 10k per month...... need 12 maxed out paying accounts to overcome the 15%..... and maybe 5 more for study purposes only...... really wish they...
With 4 accounts maxed out, do you mean 4 different DarwinexZero Subscriptions with 500k in AuM? So 2 Million on total AuM. Nice!

I also thought about buying 2x12 months 200k Boosters + 1x100k Permanent Allocation for my Darwin.

However costs would be = $7015 + the Boosters are only available for 12 months. Then you need to pay again.

With 500k AuM, a +9.4% profit just to cover the costs. As I still can’t really foresee how much time it will take me to make such a return with my Darwin, maybe I should still wait.

Will be interesting to see what my risk multipler will be after the calibration phase. I’ve reduced my position sizing for the new Darwin account.
  • #1,380
  • Dec 1, 2025 2:38pm Dec 1, 2025 2:38pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} With 4 accounts maxed out, do you mean 4 different DarwinexZero Subscriptions with 500k in AuM? So 2 Mill.
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yes, all 4 accounts are max funded now, 500k each..... 2 have 30k in silver allocations......

have 9 that will finish calibration on the 8th so their darwins won't be created till the 15...... that was intentional...... they should each be 500k fully funded by january 2nd.....

i would like for at least 1 to have made 10% before their darwin is created..... couple are at 7% now with no losses and very small drawdown......

these types things are what we need to learn......h
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