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  • #1,141
  • Oct 14, 2025 10:47pm Oct 14, 2025 10:47pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Good investigative work. Aside from his strategy and ea selling, if one gets to double and single digits in ranking, imho they should shut down the activity that got them there and start making only few well placed trades per month. With the way Darwinex operates, there is no use in trying to continue making huge profits every month once you are at the head of the pack. It's not like 8000 participants are going to take your spot (they are trying but burning up on the way all the time). Sometimes preservation itself is progression.
No one needs to make HUGE profits. All they have to do is scrape together 2-3% per month.

Of course 95% or more of traders can't do that. Has nothing to do with Darwinex, the platform, Trump tweets, etc etc. Most people fail. Period
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #1,142
  • Oct 15, 2025 7:32am Oct 15, 2025 7:32am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- current month......h
Ah, okay. Yeah, I almost thought so. So, I'm currently at 2.21% this month and need 4.96. So, that's still 2.75. Based on my 4.05% maximum drawdown for the DARWIN, you can say you need about 0.9x more return than drawdown for the minimum rating of 75.
  • #1,143
  • Oct 16, 2025 7:23am Oct 16, 2025 7:23am
most of you will receive this but some might not......

looks like our excluded accounts might end up with 25k........h

//-------- from darwin

Hi hayseed,
At Darwinex Zero, we’re committed to deliver traders what they truly need and today, we’re announcing something that builds directly on that mission.

From 1st November 2025, if you’ve been trading with us for 6 months and haven’t yet received a DarwinIA allocation, you’ll automatically get a €25k Booster for 3 months for your DARWIN, completely FREE

This means that anyone staying committed for the long term will receive an allocation, no matter what. A powerful proof of Darwinex Zero’s commitment to helping traders grow their skills and scale their capital.

How it works
On 1st November 2025, if you’ve been trading with us for 6 months and have never received a DarwinIA allocation until that date, you will receive a free €25k Booster for 3 months in the form of a coupon. You'll have 40 days to activate this Booster.

From 1st November onwards, this benefit will apply automatically to traders reaching 6 monthswith us without having received a DarwinIA allocation.

Please note that the six-month period starts from the creation date of your trading account. If you reset your account, the count will start over from zero.

We’re confident this initiative will make your journey toward investor capital smoother and more rewarding than ever before

As always, you can find more details on our blog post or join our Discord channel for questions.

Happy trading,
Darwinex Zero
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,144
  • Oct 16, 2025 7:48am Oct 16, 2025 7:48am
Quoting hayseed
most of you will receive this but some might not...... looks like our excluded accounts might end up with 25k........h //-------- from darwin Hi hayseed,
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this could mean per trader or per account...... not sure......

if per account, realistic returns on the 25k could cover all darwin costs.......

i make around 500$ per month per 100,000...... so 25k would equate to maybe 100$ per month.......

not sure if i mentioned it before, consider the benefit of staggering your sign ups....... even to the point of getting paid daily.......

no point in me spelling it out...... just do the math and you'll see......

darwin is moving up.........h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,145
  • Oct 16, 2025 8:06am Oct 16, 2025 8:06am
Quoting hayseed
even to the point of getting paid daily....... no point in me spelling it out...... just do the math and you'll see.......h

as example, this account should eventually have 5 pay days a month.....h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,146
  • Oct 16, 2025 2:00pm Oct 16, 2025 2:00pm
Quoting hayseed
most of you will receive this but some might not...... looks like our excluded accounts might end up with 25k........h //-------- from darwin Hi hayseed, At Darwinex Zero, we’re committed to deliver traders what they truly need and today, we’re announcing something that builds directly on that mission. From 1st November 2025, if you’ve been trading with us for 6 months and haven’t yet received a DarwinIA allocation, you’ll automatically get a €25k Booster for 3 months for your DARWIN, completely FREE This means that anyone staying committed...
It's a nice incentive. However, for those of us receiving allocations every month and having +6 months, shouldn't we possibly have even MORE of a reward?
It's kind of like a participation trophy..... but I guess that's the politically correct way of the world today.
  • #1,147
  • Oct 17, 2025 4:07am Oct 17, 2025 4:07am
Got one month to decide if DZ is worth the (increased) price.

We want to let you know about an upcoming change to the Darwinex Zero subscription pricing.

Since launching Darwinex Zero in April 2023, we’ve kept our prices unchanged. To keep improving the platform and better support your growth as a trader, we are updating all our plans:

  1. Monthly subscription: €45 / $50
  2. 1-year plan: €420 / $480
  3. 3-year plan: €1,080 / $1,260 – offering you the best value (it’s like getting 1 year free compared to monthly).

The new pricing above is taking effect starting on 17th November 2025.
For active subscriptions, the updated pricing will be applied at the time of your next renewal, from 17th November.

  • #1,148
  • Oct 17, 2025 4:33am Oct 17, 2025 4:33am
Now costs more than FTMO.
I have (had) 4 accounts with DZ.
That means I could buy an FTMO account once every quarter. 4 FTMO's per year.
And be rid of the risk engine and make 90% on my trades instead of 15% based on their risk engine formula.
Almost a no brainer.
I'm already down to just 2 accounts. Will see how it goes until billing day for those.
  • #1,149
  • Oct 17, 2025 8:22am Oct 17, 2025 8:22am
Quoting OutThere
Almost a no brainer..
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lol.....

remember ftmo's 90 90 90 rule......

i agree..... no brainer...... darwin is better...... even if they doubled the subscription, commissions and spread, it would not change my mind......

i already have a payout, or more, every week...... should have a payout every day within 3 months......

5$ won't change that......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,150
  • Oct 17, 2025 8:47am Oct 17, 2025 8:47am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ lol..... remember ftmo's 90 90 90 rule...... i agree..... no brainer...... darwin is better...... even if they doubled the subscription, commissions and spread, it would not change my mind...... i already have a payout, or more, every week...... should have a payout every day within 3 months...... 5$ won't change that......h
Yup. Thank god there is freedom of choice.
  • #1,151
  • Oct 19, 2025 1:07pm Oct 19, 2025 1:07pm
Quoting hayseed
most of you will receive this but some might not...... looks like our excluded accounts might end up with 25k........h //-------- from darwin Hi hayseed, At Darwinex Zero, we’re committed to deliver traders what they truly need and today, we’re announcing something that builds directly on that mission. From 1st November 2025, if you’ve been trading with us for 6 months and haven’t yet received a DarwinIA allocation, you’ll automatically get a €25k Booster for 3 months for your DARWIN, completely FREE This means that anyone staying committed...
That's well-intentioned, but you don't get anything for free.

6-month Darwinex Zero Subscription = $258
3-month "free" 25k Booster = $140

So just to cover the $258 from your 3-month 25k Booster, you'd need a little over 2% return during those 3 months. The vast majority of Darwins don't even achieve that. I'm currently at 2.7% after just over 3 months and probably won't reach the minimum rating and thus 30k in Silver by the end of this month.

Darwinex is primarily a business like any other that wants to make money and doesn't have anything to give away. I'd be interested to know how high the ongoing business expenses are for a Darwinex Zero customer. Since most of them aren't profitable and never receive a payout, this subscription model is definitely worth it for them.

I guess at $43 a month, the cost is less than $5 for them.
  • #1,152
  • Oct 19, 2025 1:23pm Oct 19, 2025 1:23pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} That's well-intentioned, but you don't get anything for free. 6-month Darwinex Zero Subscription = $258 3-month "free" 25k Booster = $140 So just to cover the $258 from your 3-month 25k Booster, you'd need a little over 2% return during those 3 months. The vast majority of Darwins don't even achieve that. I'm currently at 2.7% after just over 3 months and probably won't reach the minimum rating and thus 30k in Silver by the end of this month. Darwinex is primarily a business like any other that wants to make money and doesn't have anything...
Once again, the fault of traders not making money does not fall on Darwinex.......nor does it fall on any other prop firm, nor does it fall on any broker one has a personal account with.........
90% of traders are not profitable regardless of who/where they trade.......
One could give you a free 100K, no strings attached account and you, Noisy, would some how find a way to find the negative in it.
  • #1,153
  • Oct 19, 2025 2:03pm Oct 19, 2025 2:03pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Once again, the fault of traders not making money does not fall on Darwinex.......nor does it fall on any other prop firm, nor does it fall on any broker one has a personal account with......... 90% of traders are not profitable regardless of who/where they trade....... One could give you a free 100K, no strings attached account and you, Noisy, would some how find a way to find the negative in it.
You should learn to distinguish between negative (someone just stabbed me in the back) and factual commentary, including factual information. I didn't say anything negative about Darwinex, nor did I mean anything negative in general, just that they don't give anything away, and yes, most traders aren't successful with brokers, props, or in their own accounts either. Have a nice Sunday ;-)
  • #1,154
  • Oct 19, 2025 2:05pm Oct 19, 2025 2:05pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} That's well-intentioned, but you don't get anything for free. 6-month Darwinex Zero Subscription = $258 3-month "free" 25k Booster = $140 So just to cover the $258 from your 3-month 25k Booster, you'd need a little over 2% return during those 3 months. The vast majority of Darwins don't even achieve that. I'm currently at 2.7% after just over 3 months and probably won't reach the minimum rating and thus 30k in Silver by the end of this month. Darwinex is primarily a business like any other that wants to make money and doesn't have anything...
We get it.

You're a failed trader lashing out at the prop firm industry.

Please go away. You add zero value here.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #1,155
  • Oct 19, 2025 2:09pm Oct 19, 2025 2:09pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} We get it. You're a failed trader lashing out at the prop firm industry. Please go away. You add zero value here.
I‘m glad you’re adding so much value here. Where are your Darwinex Zero Trade Explorer have gone btw?

You‘re just an troll bashing people here, that’s all the value I can see from you?
  • #1,156
  • Oct 19, 2025 3:15pm Oct 19, 2025 3:15pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} I‘m glad you’re adding so much value here. Where are your Darwinex Zero Trade Explorer have gone btw? You‘re just an troll bashing people here, that’s all the value I can see from you?
Again, please refrain from posting.

We get it. You lost your money playing the prop firm game and now you're mad.

You're trading impotence doesn't mean props are bad. It just means you don't know how to trade.

Please go away
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #1,157
  • Oct 19, 2025 6:52pm Oct 19, 2025 6:52pm
I'm going to attempt taking some of those mofo Darwinex bucks from them with this. Only 1 week old.
Going for the jugular.
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  • #1,158
  • Oct 19, 2025 7:38pm Oct 19, 2025 7:38pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Darwinex.......
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hey pip...... let me reply here so it might help others...... and let's all remember juan has personally stated darwin traders success rate......

today's darwin is vastly better than before..... it was much more difficult for people 2 years ago...... almost certain i would not have stuck it out back then......
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it was the boosters and monthly payouts that brought me back......

as for daily payouts, lets assume we purchase the monthly payout rider and over look the kyc time required.......

start the first darwin so the 15 days calibration ends on a friday..... start the second darwin so the 15 days calibration ends the following friday and so on...... 4 accounts......

once the calibration ends and darwin created purchase a 100k booster, should be on a monday...... each account...... so with 4 accounts you'll have 4 paydays a month, one each week...... wait 1 or 2 days after each payday, purchase another 100k booster in that account...... so now you have 2 pays each week......

continue that..... in in 4 months or sooner you should have a payout a day with 4 accounts...... or much quicker with more than 4 accounts.....

admit upfront it's really kinda silly, but there is a little silly in most of us....... i figure 500$ per payout available...... next month might be much higher, but 500 average overall.....

mine are around 97 or more correlated...... only the best will get the allocation...... peyton has us all beat so she gets it.......

i started my 5th account couple days ago just to see if i can blow her out the water..... then i should be able to have 2 accounts with allocations...... which gives yet another payday...... or 2 if the account below is uncorrelated......

i have low expectations but it would be an added benefit if possible......the account is only 2 days old so don't read too much into it.......h

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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,159
  • Oct 19, 2025 9:58pm Oct 19, 2025 9:58pm
This guy has had over 50 Darwinex accounts and finally has 2 that are working.
In 1 year I personally have had 6 or 7 with 3 active right now.
Anyone else wants to tell us how many overall plus current active accounts they have had so far?
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  • #1,160
  • Oct 19, 2025 10:18pm Oct 19, 2025 10:18pm
Quoting OutThere
This guy has had over 50 Darwinex accounts and finally has 2 that are working. In 1 year I personally have had 6 or 7 with 3 active right now. Anyone else wants to tell us how many overall plus current active accounts they have had so far? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_QmkAnZG7I
Had a total of 4, 3 active.
First one opened June 2024, allocated every month was 2 months shy of Gold when I blew it up through 100% fault of my own.
Three active, one opened January, one in April and one in July.....all allocated.....I project just with the 50K minimum Gold allocations that are good for 6 months.....I will have 900K just in seed allocation across the 3 by June 2026. At my current average of 2.5% monthly, I will earn 3.375 monthly for a cost of $150.
This is without boosters or permanent allocations and does not factor any investment I may obtain.......it takes longer, but in 2 years it blows any of the prop firms out of the water.
Do 10 and you're over 11K per month at a cost of $500, all with the realistic returns of 2.5% monthly....there is no flipping 2,500DD into 3K in 2 days, no flipping 10K dd in 30 days, no trailing DD, no payout caps, no prohibited strategies......
It is, by far, the most realistic approach to obtaining REAL capital.
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