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  • #1,121
  • Oct 10, 2025 12:48pm Oct 10, 2025 12:48pm
Quoting deroty
{quote} One of them, below: {image}
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hey deroty..... a risk multiplier above 1 would of course be better, but 0.85 is not all that bad...... even 0.50 is not the end of the world.....

the risk multiplier is only a small part of the equation....... it's of no concern to me......

someone with a risk multiplier of 0.85 can make more in performance fees than someone with a 2...... they just have to work a little harder and/or better..... no harm in that.....

try focusing on your margin being used and your margin % level...... if they are closing trades it's only because your margin level % is too low.....

it seems best for me to keep my % margin level above 1000% ...... everyone will be different.....

you can quickly memorize the exact margin impact of a new trade......

last month or last years mistakes are not necessarily failures...... darwin is a forgiving system...... provided we change for the good.....h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,122
  • Oct 10, 2025 1:04pm Oct 10, 2025 1:04pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- hey deroty..... a risk multiplier above 1 would of course be better, but 0.85 is not all that bad...... even 0.50 is not the end of the world..... the risk multiplier is only a small part of the equation....... it's of no concern to me...... someone with a risk multiplier of 0.85 can make more in performance fees than someone with a 2...... they just have to work a little harder and/or better..... no harm in that..... try focusing on your margin being used and your margin % level...... if they are closing trades it's only because...

Thank you Hayseed, for the motivation!...
  • #1,123
  • Oct 10, 2025 1:21pm Oct 10, 2025 1:21pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- hey deroty..... a risk multiplier above 1 would of course be better, but 0.85 is not all that bad...... even 0.50 is not the end of the world..... the risk multiplier is only a small part of the equation....... it's of no concern to me...... someone with a risk multiplier of 0.85 can make more in performance fees than someone with a 2...... they just have to work a little harder and/or better..... no harm in that..... try focusing on your margin being used and your margin % level...... if they are closing trades it's only because...
One more question, hayseed. If the assets are liqidated, will it be caculated from the my metatrader 4 record - or after multiplier is considered in Darwinex engine?
  • #1,124
  • Oct 10, 2025 3:28pm Oct 10, 2025 3:28pm
Quoting deroty
{quote} One more question, hayseed. If the assets are liqidated, will it be caculated from the my metatrader 4 record - or after multiplier is considered in Darwinex engine?
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hey deroty..... you will not see the trades being liquidated in your metatrader signal account.....

it is possible you could double your signal account with never a single loosing trade and darwin could still have closed a large portion......

they will close trades to make sure the var risk guide lines are followed..... they are most likely netting our trades so closing is in a partial fashion.....

if you think about darwins mission, that simply has to be......

might be an effective teaching tool......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,125
  • Oct 11, 2025 5:02am Oct 11, 2025 5:02am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- hey deroty..... you will not see the trades being liquidated in your metatrader signal account..... it is possible you could double your signal account with never a single loosing trade and darwin could still have closed a large portion...... they will close trades to make sure the var risk guide lines are followed..... they are most likely netting our trades so closing is in a partial fashion..... if you think about darwins mission, that simply has to be...... might be an effective teaching tool......h
Thank you!...
  • #1,126
  • Oct 11, 2025 5:24pm Oct 11, 2025 5:24pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- hey deroty..... a risk multiplier above 1 would of course be better, but 0.85 is not all that bad...... even 0.50 is not the end of the world..... the risk multiplier is only a small part of the equation....... it's of no concern to me...... someone with a risk multiplier of 0.85 can make more in performance fees than someone with a 2...... they just have to work a little harder and/or better..... no harm in that..... try focusing on your margin being used and your margin % level...... if they are closing trades it's only because...
The risk multiplier has no influence on the profitability of the Darwin because it’s a self-balancing mechanism. So as you say it's a rather unimportant factor.

If you lower your position sizes in the signal account, your risk multiplier will likely increase but your Darwin’s profitability will not.

If you increase your position sizes in the signal account your risk multiplier will likely decrease but your Darwin’s profitability will not.

Scenario 1:
0.5x risk multiplier
5 lots on signal account = $1,000 profit
2.5 lots on DARWIN = $500 profit

Scenario 2:
1x risk multiplier
2.5 lots on signal account (*as you've lowered size*) = $500 profit
2.5 lots on DARWIN = $500 profit
  • #1,127
  • Oct 11, 2025 9:55pm Oct 11, 2025 9:55pm
Quoting Noisy
Scenario 1: 0.5x risk multiplier 5 lots on signal account = $1,000 profit 2.5 lots on DARWIN = $500 profit
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scenario 1 is what i was referring to prior about not forget the risk multiplier......

don't forget your darwin risk factor, var ratio....... it can double your effective returns......

or cut them in half......

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the risk factor seems very important to many, but not to me...... i will not change anything to make it better.....

for most of us raising it will help only in a small degree...... but increasing the win/loss ratio and average profit per trade will huge impact.....

my focus is to increase the performance fees per month.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,128
  • Oct 12, 2025 1:19am Oct 12, 2025 1:19am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- scenario 1 is what i was referring to prior about not forget the risk multiplier...... don't forget your darwin risk factor, var ratio....... it can double your effective returns...... or cut them in half...... //------ the risk factor seems very important to many, but not to me...... i will not change anything to make it better..... for most of us raising it will help only in a small degree...... but increasing the win/loss ratio and average profit per trade will huge impact........
What do you think about this Darwinex video about "How to code Value At Risk (VaR) in MQL5 for MT5 Expert Advisors"?
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  • #1,129
  • Oct 12, 2025 5:32am Oct 12, 2025 5:32am
Quoting hayseed
but increasing the win/loss ratio and average profit per trade will huge impact.
Exactly
  • #1,130
  • Oct 12, 2025 8:03pm Oct 12, 2025 8:03pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} What do you think about this Darwinex video about "How to code Value At Risk (VaR) in MQL5
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it's very good ..... all his videos are good......

have downloaded and saved everything he has uploaded..... really almost everything on darwin's channel...... have them saved to flash drives so i can watch them on tv......

there are a few that talk too fast or heavy accent kills all hope of me understanding. .....

reminds me of the two ronnies video about fork handles......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,131
  • Oct 13, 2025 4:49am Oct 13, 2025 4:49am
Yesterday
All my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly
I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

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I guess prices haven't been returning to mean lately.
Sucks when a working strategy is no longer working.
  • #1,132
  • Oct 13, 2025 9:56am Oct 13, 2025 9:56am
Hey techies! Quick question, not directly related to Darwinex. Does anyone know of a provider that rents servers with low cross-Atlantic latency between Equinix NY4 and LD4 data centers?
  • #1,133
  • Oct 13, 2025 11:22am Oct 13, 2025 11:22am
Quoting Noisy
Hey techies! Quick question, not directly related to Darwinex. Does anyone know of a provider that rents servers with low cross-Atlantic latency between Equinix NY4 and LD4 data centers?
forexvps.net. They had equinix servers when I was using them.
  • #1,134
  • Oct 13, 2025 11:26am Oct 13, 2025 11:26am
Quoting deroty
{quote} forexvps.net. They had equinix servers when I was using them.
Yes but they are not cross connected to both New York and London. I would like to rent one server (dedicated, no VPS) with optimal latency to both locations.
  • #1,135
  • Oct 14, 2025 2:57am Oct 14, 2025 2:57am
Quoting OutThere
Yesterday All my troubles seemed so far away Now it looks as though they're here to stay Oh, I believe in yesterday Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be There's a shadow hanging over me Oh, yesterday came suddenly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvMgzapSbg I guess prices haven't been returning to mean lately. Sucks when a working strategy is no longer working.
I was wondering what you were on about.
It started very reasonably; calmly explaining his strategy, willing to show winners and losers. Ok.

But, quickly alarm bells started ringing:
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...we sell into liquidity because we hope for some kind of reaction
but, this is USD CPI candle on Jan.15th he's talking about!

I dug deeper looking at some of the trades on my chart for context and frankly the entries are awful - how was he ever #1 on Darwinex?
Anyway, that didn't last
Normally, I wouldn't judge coz trading is hard and not many will be open and transparent about their record.

However, this dude is selling the same EA for $1600 - still!

Reading some of his replies in the comments - all I can say is it's disgraceful how people shamelessly promote their junk to people who can't trade to make money because they can't trade either.
  • #1,136
  • Oct 14, 2025 4:41am Oct 14, 2025 4:41am
Quoting livindaylite
{quote} I was wondering what you were on about. It started very reasonably; calmly explaining his strategy, willing to show winners and losers. Ok. But, quickly alarm bells started ringing: {quote} but, this is USD CPI candle on Jan.15th he's talking about! I dug deeper looking at some of the trades on my chart for context and frankly the entries are awful - how was he ever #1 on Darwinex? Anyway, that didn't last Normally, I wouldn't judge coz trading is hard and not many will be open and transparent about their record. However, this dude is selling...
Good investigative work.
Aside from his strategy and ea selling, if one gets to double and single digits in ranking, imho they should shut down the activity that got them there and start making only few well placed trades per month. With the way Darwinex operates, there is no use in trying to continue making huge profits every month once you are at the head of the pack. It's not like 8000 participants are going to take your spot (they are trying but burning up on the way all the time). Sometimes preservation itself is progression.
  • #1,137
  • Oct 14, 2025 9:31am Oct 14, 2025 9:31am
Quoting livindaylite
{quote} I was wondering what you were on about. It started very reasonably; calmly explaining his strategy, willing to show winners and losers. Ok. But, quickly alarm bells started ringing: {quote} but, this is USD CPI candle on Jan.15th he's talking about! I dug deeper looking at some of the trades on my chart for context and frankly the entries are awful - how was he ever #1 on Darwinex? Anyway, that didn't last Normally, I wouldn't judge coz trading is hard and not many will be open and transparent about their record. However, this dude is selling...
Those who can't do......teach and sell shit
  • #1,138
  • Oct 14, 2025 11:39am Oct 14, 2025 11:39am
My current results. According to the rating calculator, it would need 4.96% by the end of October to reach the minimum rating. Not sure, does it mean +4.96% exclusively for the current month or overall return (including previous months)?
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  • #1,139
  • Oct 14, 2025 1:25pm Oct 14, 2025 1:25pm
Quoting Noisy
current month
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current month......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,140
  • Oct 14, 2025 10:42pm Oct 14, 2025 10:42pm
Quoting OutThere
Yesterday All my troubles seemed so far away Now it looks as though they're here to stay Oh, I believe in yesterday Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be There's a shadow hanging over me Oh, yesterday came suddenly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvMgzapSbg I guess prices haven't been returning to mean lately. Sucks when a working strategy is no longer working.
Quoting a dead junkie and putting up a video of a failed trader.

Just what this thread needed.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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