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  • #41
  • Jul 19, 2025 6:27pm Jul 19, 2025 6:27pm
Dear MachineLearn,

I will be traveling to an Asian country tomorrow. Based on the timezone, NY session would be at night. US equities open at 9 pm local time.

That means I'll be looking forward to spending Monday night with you.

Please do not disappoint and bring your A-game.

Sincerely,
Fleps.
Please join me in my journey for 100 perfect trades. See my journal!
  • #42
  • Jul 19, 2025 6:30pm Jul 19, 2025 6:30pm
Quoting fleps
Dear MachineLearn, I will be traveling to an Asian country tomorrow. Based on the timezone, NY session would be at night. US equities open at 9 pm local time. That means I'll be looking forward to spending Monday night with you. Please do not disappoint and bring your A-game. Sincerely, Fleps.
If I disappoint, we will be disappointed together brother.

Tons of unforeseen issues could lay ahead and I'm not ignorant to that.
  • #43
  • Jul 19, 2025 6:32pm Jul 19, 2025 6:32pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} If I disappoint, we will be disappointed together brother. Tons of unforeseen issues could lay ahead and I'm not ignorant to that.
If there are unforeseen issues, it could end up being a long night. But I'm sure we can pound it through.
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  • #44
  • Jul 19, 2025 6:34pm Jul 19, 2025 6:34pm
Quoting fleps
{quote} If there are unforeseen issues, it could end up being a long night. But I'm sure we can pound it through.
Sure hope so, however if there's one thing I know it's that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
  • #45
  • Jul 20, 2025 4:43pm Jul 20, 2025 4:43pm
Dynamic conditions that I will take into consideration as market nears open. Things I'll be studying keenly.

 

  1. One asset may have a naturally wider cost of entry than the other
  2. Trade execution may not be perfectly synchronized
  3. Price gaps between assets can last longer than expected
  4. One side may move faster, skewing outcomes
  5. Signal accuracy can depend on historical range settings
  6. Some hours of the day produce more consistent relationships
  7. Entry points may trigger prematurely during erratic movement
  8. Different platforms may show slightly different pricing
  9. Being down on both positions at once can create pressure
  10. Exits need room to handle temporary overextensions

  • #46
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:13pm Jul 20, 2025 5:13pm
Quoting MachineLearn
Dynamic conditions that I will take into consideration as market nears open. Things I'll be studying keenly. One asset may have a naturally wider cost of entry than the other Trade execution may not be perfectly synchronized Price gaps between assets can last longer than expected One side may move faster, skewing outcomes Signal accuracy can depend on historical range settings Some hours of the day produce more consistent relationships Entry points may trigger prematurely during erratic movement Different platforms may show slightly different pricing...
Complicated and Irrelevant and TMI(my personal opinion, do not get upset). The simpler the better, just for fun, I may look at stretched ATR and how momentum treating each instrument. One of my edges is I know how to measure momentum, but will be secretive for now as my man @Machine
  • #47
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:17pm Jul 20, 2025 5:17pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} Sure hope so, however if there's one thing I know it's that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
100% Agree, I been training myself this weekend how to be humble. Not easy when one is at the high of profits for the year to date, but a must.

Projecting: I am humble, I am strong silent type, I am humble, etc....
  • #48
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:26pm Jul 20, 2025 5:26pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} Complicated and Irrelevant and TMI(my personal opinion, do not get upset). The simpler the better, just for fun, I may look at stretched ATR and how momentum treating each instrument. One of my edges is I know how to measure momentum, but will be secretive for now as my man @Machine
This is all very simple stuff my good sir.

You do the same thing in your trading, I've just labeled it.
  • #49
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:29pm Jul 20, 2025 5:29pm
After trading these two instruments for the better part of 8+ years, there’s definitely an ebb and flow to them. Most of the time they will move together, unless a market rotation, fundamental's, etc is happening. There’s also time of day that makes a big impact.

Not certain of the logic of shorting one while longing the other. Seems like overthinking rather then KISS.

Best of luck anyways.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #50
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:34pm Jul 20, 2025 5:34pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} This is all very simple stuff my good sir. You do the same thing in your trading, I've just labeled it.
I am now drinking beer and listening to good music and wondered, "I wonder what music @Machine likes?" Seriously
  • #51
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:35pm Jul 20, 2025 5:35pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
After trading these two instruments for the better part of 8+ years, there’s definitely an ebb and flow to them. Most of the time they will move together, unless a market rotation, fundamental's, etc is happening. There’s also time of day that makes a big impact. Not certain of the logic of shorting one while longing the other. Seems like overthinking rather then KISS. Best of luck anyways.
Projecting over complication without full comprehension seems a tad ignorant.

Quite the oxymoron


"I've been doing this a specific way for many years (to no success most likely as well) and anything other than how I conduct my system seems over complicated."

Ask some questions man, there's already people who fully understand the underlying simplicity in the logic of the system. Don't project because you don't get it.
  • #52
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:40pm Jul 20, 2025 5:40pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
After trading these two instruments for the better part of 8+ years, there’s definitely an ebb and flow to them. Most of the time they will move together, unless a market rotation, fundamental's, etc is happening. There’s also time of day that makes a big impact. Not certain of the logic of shorting one while longing the other. Seems like overthinking rather then KISS. Best of luck anyways.
@Machine, Valid point, but also Yo, I learned few things from @Crypto....the only other person on FF that I know of trading live and making great money. We traded together through Covid years..his presence is interesting.
  • #53
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:40pm Jul 20, 2025 5:40pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} I am now drinking beer and listening to good music and wondered, "I wonder what music @Machine likes?" Seriously
I am an EDM enjoyer. Lots of progressive techno... gets me going. How about yourself?
  • #54
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:43pm Jul 20, 2025 5:43pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} @Machine, Valid point, but also Yo, I learned few things from @Crypto....the only other person on FF that I know of trading live and making great money. We traded together through Covid years..his presence is interesting.
I'm sure he's a great guy, that comment just exudes ignorance. There's no hard feelings though.
  • #55
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:43pm Jul 20, 2025 5:43pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} I am an EDM enjoyer. Lots of progressive techno... gets me going. How about yourself?
Went to Space 92 Rave few weeks ago, the same set ..one of my favorites. Turn it up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-JjZtb-q0
  • #56
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:47pm Jul 20, 2025 5:47pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} Went to Space 92 Rave few weeks ago, the same set ..one of my favorites. Turn it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-JjZtb-q0
DAMN, this is my shit.
  • #57
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:48pm Jul 20, 2025 5:48pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} DAMN, this is my shit.
I can not hear yaaaaaaaaaaaa ..fine, a little puff never hurts

I am humble, I am strong silent type, I am humble.......
  • #58
  • Jul 20, 2025 8:43pm Jul 20, 2025 8:43pm
Quoting MachineLearn
{quote} Projecting over complication without full comprehension seems a tad ignorant. Quite the oxymoron "I've been doing this a specific way for many years (to no success most likely as well) and anything other than how I conduct my system seems over complicated." Ask some questions man, there's already people who fully understand the underlying simplicity in the logic of the system. Don't project because you don't get it.
Im not trying to pour cold water on it and I understand completely what it is you're trying to do. There’s HFT firms that do slight variations (in certain market conditions). RickM also made a valid comment in the other thread as well.

Trading index futures can be fairly easy and straightforward as it is.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #59
  • Jul 20, 2025 8:49pm Jul 20, 2025 8:49pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Im not trying to pour cold water on it and I understand completely what it is you're trying to do. There’s HFT firms that do slight variations (in certain market conditions). RickM also made a valid comment in the other thread as well. Trading index futures can be fairly easy and straightforward as it is.
I'm glad you think it's very simple. Not quite sure why you're wasting time in my thread if you have everything figured out already. Good luck.
  • #60
  • Jul 20, 2025 8:57pm Jul 20, 2025 8:57pm
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