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  • #21
  • Apr 10, 2025 2:50pm Apr 10, 2025 2:50pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} He even doesn't use his real voice but an automatic. Do you trust someone that doesn't put his face on the contents shared on his channel?
Merka, I don't know the person but when you listen to him and get ICT indicator to practice before using your live account, you will see the result.
ICT is a very good strategy if you understand it with money management.
  • #22
  • Apr 13, 2025 11:56pm Apr 13, 2025 11:56pm
ICT and SMC trading concepts have gained popularity, but long-term verified results are scarce. While many claim profits, skepticism remains due to lack of evidence and fraud allegations against their founders. Always verify before investing.
  • #23
  • Apr 14, 2025 5:13pm Apr 14, 2025 5:13pm
I trade using some of ICT's concepts, and others I leave alone. If it weren't for ICT/SMC I wouldn't have learned about the idea of the algorithmic nature of the market. Especially liquidity, and how the market moves at an institutional level. I would've been stuck in retail fairyland using useless indicators and drawing trendlines with crayons looking for equally useless retail patterns, and losing account after account. ICT/SMC concepts have merit. Really anything you learn has merit if you can apply it with proper risk management and control your emotions and be disciplined. If there was a totem pole I would rank this pretty high up.

That's just my personal opinion from my own experiences.

As for ICT the man aka the social media personality...different story. He talks a lot of shit and it has really become tiresome now. Grandiose proclamations of winning the Robbins Cup and then backing out. "Quitting" twitter and retiring again and again, only to come right back after a few months because he just can't stay away. He's cried wolf so many times that it's become annoying. I just ignore his social media stuff and focus on his teachings.

I don't feel "scammed" because I haven't paid for anything. I've only invested time and don't regret it.
  • #24
  • Apr 15, 2025 4:46am Apr 15, 2025 4:46am
Quoting fxpipper
I trade using some of ICT's concepts, and others I leave alone. If it weren't for ICT/SMC I wouldn't have learned about the idea of the algorithmic nature of the market. Especially liquidity, and how the market moves at an institutional level. I would've been stuck in retail fairyland using useless indicators and drawing trendlines with crayons looking for equally useless retail patterns, and losing account after account. ICT/SMC concepts have merit. Really anything you learn has merit if you can apply it with proper risk management and control...
Well done bro
  • #25
  • Apr 15, 2025 5:21pm Apr 15, 2025 5:21pm
Hi. So for me ICT works best. I don't care if he lost Robbin cups or not. He is my mentor. Listen carefully. The main reason people are failing in ICT because they dont understand ICT. Let me show you a proof. Go to ICT any mentorship 2022 to 2024 or any. Just look at first video views and last video views. There is a huge decrease in last videos which means people cant finish ICT properly and then claiming ICT is a scam. Wow. Well another thing he himself said that he is not inventor of this strategy or anything he just align all the stuff that really works in market in a complex way. The complex way is you have to go through the rant. Yesssss. Thats the hidden thing. His rant is the reason why most people quit because they cant listen him and thats what ICT wants. He dont want to give his knowledge to people that are not serious about learning. So my opinion is ICT works only for those those who are serious and are really ready to spend time and listen his rant. If not then you can learn other stuff like gann, fib, snr which really has no respect in market. So my advice will be just one month. Give month in ICT, listen his rant and then check how you see market. And yeah one thing I forgot to mention that for ICT your daily bias are most important. Daily bias means in which direction the market will move in one day and how can find your daily bias is just in his rant and nothing less. Thats the bitter truth.
  • #26
  • Apr 17, 2025 6:38pm Apr 17, 2025 6:38pm
Quoting Sameer9292
Hi. So for me ICT works best. I don't care if he lost Robbin cups or not. He is my mentor. Listen carefully. The main reason people are failing in ICT because they dont understand ICT. Let me show you a proof. Go to ICT any mentorship 2022 to 2024 or any. Just look at first video views and last video views. There is a huge decrease in last videos which means people cant finish ICT properly and then claiming ICT is a scam. Wow. Well another thing he himself said that he is not inventor of this strategy or anything he just align all the stuff that...
This is dumb. You're saying you want to learn from someone who:
1. blew up his account in Robbins Cup (despite claiming he will win it easily)
2. faked a withdrawal and got caught
3. is under the delusion that the entire market is out to get him.

He is not your mentor. You are his shill.
  • #27
  • Apr 17, 2025 7:43pm Apr 17, 2025 7:43pm
Quoting Sameer9292
Hi. So for me ICT works best. I don't care if he lost Robbin cups or not. He is my mentor. Listen carefully. The main reason people are failing in ICT because they dont understand ICT. Let me show you a proof. Go to ICT any mentorship 2022 to 2024 or any. Just look at first video views and last video views. There is a huge decrease in last videos which means people cant finish ICT properly and then claiming ICT is a scam. Wow. Well another thing he himself said that he is not inventor of this strategy or anything he just align all the stuff that...
That's it bro..... most people quit because they want easy stuff like a 5 minute video on how to trade...if i had this knowledge that ict is teaching now years ago, i wouldn't have shared it with anyone tbh...

He clearly stated that he did what all that to expand the concept's reach and it's doing much better than any trading concept out there...the last time i checked my dictionary, a fraudster is someone who calls the market live before it happens yeah cos that's what he does and according to them that's a definition for 'fraudster'
I'm among the members of his free mentorship group and he has done that and never lost any trade on there in front of 100k+ members since January this year........ Instead of them to focus about his teachings and make money, they're rather questioning his personality....I sometimes laugh at retarded and ignorant people who think ICT's concept doesn't work...Cos it does....

I'm not here to help you change your strategy but to tell you that ICT does work and so is your strategy...
  • #28
  • Apr 18, 2025 5:51am Apr 18, 2025 5:51am
Quoting LeoDahv
{quote} I'm not here to help you change your strategy but to tell you that ICT does work and so is your strategy...
It works so well that ICT himself blew his last Robbins Cup account (and all the others before, apart from the accounts where he photoshoped the results).
Now think deeply about that for a bit...
  • #29
  • Apr 18, 2025 7:55am Apr 18, 2025 7:55am
the premise that a trader will, tell the world, how they have achieved success is a flawed mindset. all the energy devoted to "finding" a trading system should be devoted to "developing" a trading strategy. that is the simple truth. this is a long, difficult, solitary, pilgrimage that only requires three ingredients.......intellectual honesty, determination, and adoration. monetary gain is simply a byproduct, it cannot be an ingredient, it will contaminate the entire process. good fortune will follow the few.
"The Rich Never Pay Retail"
  • #30
  • Edited 2:00pm Apr 18, 2025 8:41am | Edited 2:00pm
well in my experience i think the key ingredient is always you and the mindset you nature around trading as one, all concepts work i have friends who still uses candlestick patterns,Elliott wave ,trend lines etc .My opinion about all thus is that ,no matter how you go on about your trading always choose a way of trading that seems more natural to you,I'm saying this because the are times when i trade with my friends we would get the same set ups ,while using different concepts ,even with ICT/SMC is can give you clarification and understanding till a given period,the day to day decisions on your trading/in real life progress are mainly done by you and you take up all the consequences of them being aware or not .All im saying is all systems work and theres a reoson why they do,and there is a reoson why the internet isn't real a good space
  • #31
  • Apr 18, 2025 10:21am Apr 18, 2025 10:21am
ICT can't trade, I think that's as close to proven as you can get here. But that doesn't mean what he teaches is bad. It's mostly renamed concepts that have been around for ages.

If you take the strong principles in his content and apply solid risk management, I'm sure that you can be profitable.

I've never watched a single ICT video, I only know of some of his methods through others, but they're sound and can be profitable. The difference between profitable and losing is not the strategy, but the discipline of the trader. Everything the market does is designed to make you want to buy when you should sell and vice versa.
  • #32
  • Apr 18, 2025 10:47am Apr 18, 2025 10:47am
Every strategy works. It's just about you.
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  • #33
  • Apr 30, 2025 9:51am Apr 30, 2025 9:51am
ICT has spawned an entire generation of grifters with his scam. The real genius of his work though is how unwaveringly loyal the useful idiots are that subscribe to his nonsense, and how they choose to believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that his shit works. They will even lie for him to other people claiming they his system is working, knowing full well they haven't made a single dollar, or at least haven't traded long enough to show any evidence of an edge. It's like watching scientology applied to trading.
  • #34
  • May 3, 2025 4:45am May 3, 2025 4:45am
Quoting ImPaul
Every strategy works. It's just about you. {image}
Agree 100%
  • #35
  • May 3, 2025 10:29am May 3, 2025 10:29am
Hello everyone,
I’ve been following the recent discussions on ICT and wanted to share a few thoughts. It’s unfortunate to see the conversation shift towards personal attacks and character judgments. Let’s not lose sight of the real purpose here — are we discussing the profitability and soundness of a system, or are we judging an individual? At the end of the day, we're all here to make a profit. So why waste time and energy pointing fingers?
I’ve been a student of ICT for the past two years. Initially, I too was skeptical — I assumed it might be another scam like many others we come across. But after years of exploring various strategies — chart and candlestick patterns, SMA, EMA, RSI, Elliott Wave, VSA, Market Profile, Footprint, Bookmap — and dedicating serious time to each, I finally decided to fully test the ICT methodology.
With complete honesty, I must say: the precision, risk-reward ratio, accuracy, and win rate I achieved using ICT concepts were truly exceptional. The results I saw were beyond what I had experienced with any other system, even the more advanced tools like Bookmap and Footprint. That’s my personal experience.
Now, I understand that not everyone will believe this — and that’s perfectly fine. We’re all on our individual journeys in the markets. The point is, if someone is profitable with ICT, Wyckoff, or any other strategy, that’s all that matters. Let’s respect each other’s paths.
I’m not claiming that other systems aren’t profitable — they very well might be. But for me, they didn’t deliver the results I needed. That doesn’t mean those systems are bad; it just means they didn’t work for me. Success or failure with a system is a personal experience and shouldn't be used to universally judge its effectiveness.
So let's keep the focus where it belongs — learning, growing, and profiting
  • #36
  • May 3, 2025 5:45pm May 3, 2025 5:45pm
Quoting EaglEyeZ
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Really? Your 2nd post from Pakistan? That's not an opinion at all, which is what the thread asked for, DOH.

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #37
  • May 3, 2025 9:07pm May 3, 2025 9:07pm
Only 3% of retail traders succeed, so ...must find system that only used by 3% traders, not commonly used
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  • #38
  • May 3, 2025 11:25pm May 3, 2025 11:25pm
It's the same as giving ferrarri to someone who doesn't know how to drive, my opinion about SMC, now ICT I don't know it. I quickly saw a video, it seems like a joke, what it teaches, lol
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  • #39
  • May 3, 2025 11:46pm May 3, 2025 11:46pm
Combine Wychoff, SMC and Elliot Waves and tell me the results later... one method is just the tip of the iceberg
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  • #40
  • May 5, 2025 1:55pm May 5, 2025 1:55pm
Quoting Rhevl
ICT has spawned an entire generation of grifters with his scam. The real genius of his work though is how unwaveringly loyal the useful idiots are that subscribe to his nonsense, and how they choose to believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that his shit works. They will even lie for him to other people claiming they his system is working, knowing full well they haven't made a single dollar, or at least haven't traded long enough to show any evidence of an edge. It's like watching scientology applied to trading.
What a bunch of silly gibberish.

I get that you don't like ICT, and that's totally fine, but don't try to gaslight those of us that are finding success using his methods by trying to suggest that we're just imagining it.
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