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  • #841
  • Mar 3, 2025 10:21am Mar 3, 2025 10:21am
Highlighted trader sexy SQZ: https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/...ource=hs_email

14 month track record, 1.8 million under management. Earning $2700 for every 1% earned.
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  • #842
  • Mar 3, 2025 12:20pm Mar 3, 2025 12:20pm
Interesting that of the 5 traders interviewed on the blog, 4 currently have zero allocation. And things looked really good for them in the past, with up to 680K allocation. Trading successfully in the long term seems to be an art. Well, I don't want to complain, I'm not any better at the moment.

https://blog.darwinexzero.com/tag/interviews

https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/SDKK
https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/OLRE
https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/AHXJ
https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/SLCF (30000 €)
https://www.darwinexzero.com/darwin/ICBO
  • #843
  • Mar 4, 2025 3:47am Mar 4, 2025 3:47am
Does anyone knows if you can see how much a trader with a 3 letter Darwin code is trading himself ?
  • #844
  • Mar 4, 2025 9:41am Mar 4, 2025 9:41am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Does anyone knows if you can see how much a trader with a 3 letter Darwin code is trading himself ?
No you can't.

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Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #845
  • Mar 5, 2025 12:57am Mar 5, 2025 12:57am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Does anyone knows if you can see how much a trader with a 3 letter Darwin code is trading himself ?
Hi you can if you click on the darwin ID in darwinex.com. Under 10k equity it will show a figure and divide that by 3 as the figure is with available leverage. If they have over 10k it just says greater than.

Don't know if you've found it yet but you can also see trader earnings if you click through the trader ID which is beneath the Darwin ID which can be quite insightful.
  • #846
  • Mar 5, 2025 1:56am Mar 5, 2025 1:56am
Update: Looks like surviving Stonks the last couple days has vaulted my position. Had a bad run at the end of Feb on the YOLO and missed the 30K allocation. No biggie since I still have 60K and the 100K allocation. My 'recovery' trades didnt close until March since the month was short. Kinda surprised that the market sucked for so many Darwins that I got into the top 5%. Rolling into March we should be back on track until summer slowdown.
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  • #847
  • Mar 6, 2025 3:58am Mar 6, 2025 3:58am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Hi you can if you click on the darwin ID in darwinex.com. Under 10k equity it will show a figure and divide that by 3 as the figure is with available leverage. If they have over 10k it just says greater than.
This is incorrect.
For those on Darwinex Zero,you click on "Invest in XYW" on individual darwins page and it gets you on Darwinex individual page of that darwin. There you hoover over Trader's total equity blue cross and it shows you how much trader has in his account (without leverage) and it shows you also if trader invested,and how much, in his own darwin. Sums over 10 000 are not disclosed for privacy reasons,as fellow poster indicated .
  • #848
  • Edited 11:22am Mar 6, 2025 11:05am | Edited 11:22am
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} This is incorrect. For those on Darwinex Zero,you click on "Invest in XYW" on individual darwins page and it gets you on Darwinex individual page of that darwin. There you hoover over Trader's total equity blue cross and it shows you how much trader has in his account (without leverage) and it shows you also if trader invested,and how much, in his own darwin. Sums over 10 000 are not disclosed for privacy reasons,as fellow poster indicated .
Hmm don't know about zero. I'm on classic and it shows an incorrect and misleading traders equity. Always has and i"d assumed it was cash plus available leverage. Anyways who gives a shit?

Without context what is the use of trader's equity? I could be a millionaire trading mummy's £200k does that make me more credible? Or I could have saved up 6 months of earnings and trade with my hard fought £1k...

Just a thoughtless metric of no use.
  • #849
  • Mar 6, 2025 5:37pm Mar 6, 2025 5:37pm
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Hmm don't know about zero. I'm on classic and it shows an incorrect and misleading traders equity. Always has and i"d assumed it was cash plus available leverage. Anyways who gives a shit? Without context what is the use of trader's equity? I could be a millionaire trading mummy's £200k does that make me more credible? Or I could have saved up 6 months of earnings and trade with my hard fought £1k... Just a thoughtless metric of no use.
That is not correct.Read my first post again.If you hoover with your cursor over that blue cross,it will show what I described.I am trader on Darwinex Classic and this data is correct to the last cent.
What you are seeing without hoovering with your cursor over the blue cross is VAR% adjusted trader's equity,which tries to show to the mathematically literate population what is trader's risk-adjusted Equity.That is important because some traders were acting as wise guys,posting over 10 000 into their accounts to gain credibility with potential investors and than proceed to trading with ridiculous low leverage and essentially running the account as demo account - not risking any of their capital.
So both Equity numbers(actual and VAR% adjusted) give to investors idea what the trader is actually risking,aka if he really has some skin in the game or if he is treating his investors as guinea pigs or useful idiots. The other extreme is when traders put only 1000 in their account but trade with insane risk (VAR over 30%),this is also valuable information for investors.
  • #850
  • Mar 6, 2025 5:50pm Mar 6, 2025 5:50pm
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} That is not correct.Read my first post again.If you hoover with your cursor over that blue cross,it will show what I described.I am trader on Darwinex Classic and this data is correct to the last cent. What you are seeing without hoovering with your cursor over the blue cross is VAR% adjusted trader's equity,which tries to show to the mathematically literate population what is trader's risk-adjusted Equity.That is important because some traders were acting as wise guys,posting over 10 000 into their accounts to gain credibility with potential...
This would solidify the point that classic traders have a HUGE advantadge over dzero traders as far as securing AUM.. That is, if an investor is judging by one's skin in the game. Unfortunately, being in the USA, zero is my only option.
  • #851
  • Mar 6, 2025 7:04pm Mar 6, 2025 7:04pm
This is part of the reply from Darwinex's Luis

According to our experience, and yours as well, t is not the same to trade with your own funds than trading with virtual funds so DARWINs created based on a Darwinex Zero trading account may have different responses when drawdowns happen. It is much more likely, and it actually happens much more often, that a trader that trades with his own funds has a greater incentive to carry on with his trading history rather than just withdrawing funds and closing the account after a determined drawdown. On the contrary, we see that traders in Darwinex Zero, even with successful trading histories for a few months, give up very easily and restart their subscription after a drawdown in their DARWIN. If investors were attracted to a DARWIN that gives up when a drawdown happens, we would not be doing our best to help investors choose the best DARWINs. Since DARWINs in DarwinIA GOLD, are much less likely to restart their trading history, it is much less risky for an investor to be attracted by the short term good returns of a DARWIN that may give up when a drawdown happens.
  • #852
  • Mar 6, 2025 11:40pm Mar 6, 2025 11:40pm
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} That is not correct.Read my first post again.If you hoover with your cursor over that blue cross,it will show what I described.I am trader on Darwinex Classic and this data is correct to the last cent. What you are seeing without hoovering with your cursor over the blue cross is VAR% adjusted trader's equity,which tries to show to the mathematically literate population what is trader's risk-adjusted Equity.That is important because some traders were acting as wise guys,posting over 10 000 into their accounts to gain credibility with potential...
Ah OK, I see that now, thanks for correcting me
  • #853
  • Mar 6, 2025 11:42pm Mar 6, 2025 11:42pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} This would solidify the point that classic traders have a HUGE advantadge over dzero traders as far as securing AUM.. That is, if an investor is judging by one's skin in the game. Unfortunately, being in the USA, zero is my only option.
Doe's that mean that US folk cannot also invest in Darwin's?
  • #854
  • Mar 6, 2025 11:50pm Mar 6, 2025 11:50pm
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} That is not correct.Read my first post again.If you hoover with your cursor over that blue cross,it will show what I described.I am trader on Darwinex Classic and this data is correct to the last cent. What you are seeing without hoovering with your cursor over the blue cross is VAR% adjusted trader's equity,which tries to show to the mathematically literate population what is trader's risk-adjusted Equity.That is important because some traders were acting as wise guys,posting over 10 000 into their accounts to gain credibility with potential...
"he other extreme is when traders put only 1000 in their account but trade with insane risk (VAR over 30%),this is also valuable information for investors.[/quote]"

I'm screwed then because I always maximise available margin most months but I'd argue it's not risky as I manage one trade over many positions... it's the opposite of extreme.
  • #855
  • Mar 7, 2025 2:33am Mar 7, 2025 2:33am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Doe's that mean that US folk cannot also invest in Darwin's?
It's not Just US with only DZ. It's everywhere in the world with regulatory bodies that Darwinex hasn't bothered to register with.
Americans with their ingrained victim mentality think they are the only ones in the world missing out on goodies as usual.
  • #856
  • Mar 7, 2025 2:46am Mar 7, 2025 2:46am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} It's not Just US with only DZ. It's everywhere in the world with regulatory bodies that Darwinex hasn't bothered to register with. Americans with their ingrained victim mentality think they are the only ones in the world missing out on goodies as usual.
Can't say I blame them to be fair. It's way easier to make money doing other things that don't require all this nonsense regulation.
  • #857
  • Mar 7, 2025 2:51am Mar 7, 2025 2:51am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} I'm screwed then because I always maximise available margin most months but I'd argue it's not risky as I manage one trade over many positions... it's the opposite of extreme.
Put yourself in investor's shoes:if trader constantly trades with small amount and high risk(high VAR%),doesn't that mean that trader has no confidence in his own strategy or is he treating this account as gambling account? If strategy is solid,trader should try to take advantage of it firstly for himself?
Naturally there could be some poor students from Africa or India and they cannot put in more than 1000,but after 3 years of successful trading there should be much more than 1000 in the account. Darwinia earnings and own profits.
  • #858
  • Mar 7, 2025 3:12am Mar 7, 2025 3:12am
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} Put yourself in investor's shoes:if trader constantly trades with small amount and high risk(high VAR%),doesn't that mean that trader has no confidence in his own strategy or is he treating this account as gambling account? If strategy is solid,trader should try to take advantage of it firstly for himself? Naturally there could be some poor students from Africa or India and they cannot put in more than 1000,but after 3 years of successful trading there should be much more than 1000 in the account. Darwinia earnings and own profits.
I'd really like to see thr trades of someone who started 3 years ago with 1000 and then joined Darwinex with that track record. I doubt it exists.
As I mentioned it before, Darwinex wanted me badly with a less than 3 months heavily martingaled track record and minimum 30% dd. No one knows who Darwinex accepts based on what kind of record other than Darwinex. Only those with shitty record who got in know. You say they have changed but how do you know since you don't work for Darwinex?
  • #859
  • Mar 7, 2025 3:21am Mar 7, 2025 3:21am
Quoting EURsniper
{quote} Put yourself in investor's shoes:if trader constantly trades with small amount and high risk(high VAR%),doesn't that mean that trader has no confidence in his own strategy or is he treating this account as gambling account? If strategy is solid,trader should try to take advantage of it firstly for himself? Naturally there could be some poor students from Africa or India and they cannot put in more than 1000,but after 3 years of successful trading there should be much more than 1000 in the account. Darwinia earnings and own profits.
I think the VAR seeming pegged at 30% emsa leverage is probably a compromise they've had to make, I don't worry too much about it as I'm trading my own funds for myself.

Just interested in how Darwinex interpret it, trading at 6% leverage just wouldn't be worthwhile for the sake of allocations or even AUM judging by the payouts so far as opposed to bigger returns on a private account using all available funds plus extra if required..... Many traders on there aren't making above average EU wages after a few years with a great track record, AUM and allocations.

I do wonder if they restrict payouts based on performance depending on their cashflow, after all they decide which darwin performs and which doesn't versus the underlying?
  • #860
  • Mar 7, 2025 3:33am Mar 7, 2025 3:33am
Darwinex accepts Darwin traders after 45 days or so because the minimum thr re needs to analyze a trading record is 45 days. I doubt they are going to turn someone away with a 60 day track record and say come back after 3 years.
So, if you have several accounts trading different strategies and one of them is passable after 45 days, you are in as an investable trader. Luckily, rarely ever anyone would invest in such account unless they have s rich uncle but they can.

I'm pretty sure the reason I could get in with my 2 month martingale account was that I had something like a 70-80% gain and a 30% dd which made the 'Yield to Drawdown" Metric look good. That metric is really important in rankings at Darwinex if anyone has noticed.
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