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  • #21
  • Oct 31, 2024 7:47pm Oct 31, 2024 7:47pm
Quoting akukaya
Hi FF traders, I just wonder if I found a 100% winning system, and if I expose it to public, would it effect the system? Any opinion guys?
Look being a newish kind of trader, but having a understanding of the global economy to some degree... I would like to respectfully provide my opinion here.

I do not believe any programmer could make a 100% win-rated trading system, if the slight chance it was made then that trader would have the entire GDP (let's say own all the money in the world).

If that same trader then released this system for the public and everyone started using it we would run into a problem. This would be that the system would begin to fail, because trading works like so;
- Trader A sells
- Trader B buys
The inbalance between buys or sells is what creates the market and if you're in a winning trade, someone else is losing. If you're in a losing trade someone else is winning.

So if everyone was winning, who'd be losing?
If everyone was losing, who'd be winning?

Welcome to trading the foreign exchange market.

I might also suggest instead of looking for high winrates, look for low losses and consistent profits. Good luck on your journey!
A big dog
  • #22
  • Nov 2, 2024 3:46am Nov 2, 2024 3:46am
There's no 100% winning bru. Trading is all about journey.
  • #23
  • Nov 4, 2024 12:49am Nov 4, 2024 12:49am
Quoting akukaya
Hi FF traders, I just wonder if I found a 100% winning system, and if I expose it to public, would it effect the system? Any opinion guys?
Hey there! If you really did find a 100% winning system (congrats if so!), exposing it could indeed affect its effectiveness, especially if it relies on lower liquidity setups or unique market behaviors that might get diluted with more users. Sometimes, systems work best when fewer traders are aware of them, so sharing it publicly could change its performance.
  • #24
  • Dec 3, 2024 12:58am Dec 3, 2024 12:58am
No one has 100% winning strategies unless they have opened few positions or made a new profile claiming that they are new to trading.
  • #25
  • Dec 3, 2024 6:28am Dec 3, 2024 6:28am
Yeah such systems exist (winrate close to 100%) like arbitrage but unfortunately such opportunities don't last long, either profit margins get slim due to competition or you get banned due to abusing your broker trading conditions.
  • #26
  • Dec 4, 2024 1:53am Dec 4, 2024 1:53am
Fair point on arbitrage strategies - they do come close to 100% win rates, but like you said, they are not sustainable.
It is a good reminder that even the best system can also have their limitations in real world trading.
  • #27
  • Edited 8:55am Dec 5, 2024 8:33am | Edited 8:55am
There is no such thing as 100% system, if some one tells you otherwise, run away FAST.

I know some professional traders with only 30% win rate...
  • #28
  • Dec 6, 2024 12:59am Dec 6, 2024 12:59am
Quoting Ha-Socher
There is no such thing as 100% system, if some one tells you otherwise, run away FAST. I know some professional traders with only 30% win rate...
If anybody is telling you that they have 100% win rate, it is a huge red flag
  • #29
  • Dec 8, 2024 4:41pm Dec 8, 2024 4:41pm
You're free to share it lol I don't think it will affect something.
I love trading.
  • #30
  • Dec 9, 2024 7:03am Dec 9, 2024 7:03am
Quoting cyborgfx
Fair point on arbitrage strategies - they do come close to 100% win rates, but like you said, they are not sustainable. It is a good reminder that even the best system can also have their limitations in real world trading.
yeah a system generates stable profit (if an edge doesn't depend on market regime or some changing parameters) until someone else discovers its. At least this is how efficient market mechanism works in practice, I mean what drives abnormal returns that exist on the market to zero with time.
  • #31
  • Dec 11, 2024 3:52am Dec 11, 2024 3:52am
If you truly found a 100% winning system (which is highly unlikely), sharing it publicly could impact its effectiveness. More users mean market adjustments, reducing its edge. But hey, if it’s that good, why share?
  • #32
  • Dec 12, 2024 4:46am Dec 12, 2024 4:46am
Quoting cyborgfx
No one has 100% winning strategies unless they have opened few positions or made a new profile claiming that they are new to trading.
I was also thinking that if they do have 100% winning strategies, they would not be sharing them, it is their hard work and why would they give it away?
  • #33
  • Dec 13, 2024 1:06pm Dec 13, 2024 1:06pm
99% is possible.

World Cup Trading Championship Standings - World Cup Trading Championships

Leaders stats 2024 :

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Ashur Daved (@FCtrader88) / X
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #34
  • Dec 17, 2024 3:26am Dec 17, 2024 3:26am
Quoting ArloFelix
{quote} I was also thinking that if they do have 100% winning strategies, they would not be sharing them, it is their hard work and why would they give it away?
First, I think no strategy is a 100% winning one. Whenever I see such kind of messaging being shared around, it makes me more suspicious.
  • #35
  • Dec 17, 2024 4:26am Dec 17, 2024 4:26am
Quoting Mandariin
99% is possible. World Cup Trading Championship Standings - World Cup Trading Championships Leaders stats 2024 : {image} Ashur Daved (@FCtrader88) / X
Something doesn't seems right when I put the numbers in a Monte-Carlo simulator...

There is no way he doesn't have 2 losers in a row
  • #36
  • Dec 17, 2024 12:39pm Dec 17, 2024 12:39pm
Quoting Mandariin
99% is possible. World Cup Trading Championship Standings - World Cup Trading Championships Leaders stats 2024 : {image} Ashur Daved (@FCtrader88) / X
Looks something like statistical outlier from Margingale strategy, extremely unlikely to get something similar from other strategies.
  • #37
  • Dec 18, 2024 2:34am Dec 18, 2024 2:34am
Quoting pizd0s
{quote} Looks something like statistical outlier from Margingale strategy, extremely unlikely to get something similar from other strategies.
Maybe striving for perfection is a key ? He thinks losing trades are or bad market reading.

Consistency Over Short-term Gains: He emphasizes the importance of long-term consistent profits rather than chasing short-term big wins. This approach not only proves one's capability as a trader but also attracts investors looking for stability rather than the risk associated with a gambler's mindset.

Emotional Control and Patience: @FCtrader88 advises against worrying about uncontrollable variables and stresses the importance of planning trades meticulously. He advocates for patience, where traders should wait for the outcomes of their planned trades, learning from both successes and failures. This mindset helps in accumulating valuable experience.

Control Over Risk: @FCtrader88 maintains a high win rate by meticulously controlling risk distribution. He shares that he has traded with a modest lot size, which allowed him to achieve significant returns over time without exposing himself to unnecessary risk.

Striving for Perfection: He challenges the common advice that losses are just part of the game, instead pushing for minimizing losses as much as possible, indicating a pursuit of mastery in trading rather than just being somewhat profitable
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #38
  • Dec 20, 2024 12:06am Dec 20, 2024 12:06am
Quoting Ha-Socher
{quote} Something doesn't seems right when I put the numbers in a Monte-Carlo simulator... There is no way he doesn't have 2 losers in a row
Ngl, win rate looks impressive, but let’s be real— the avg win is $41 and the losses are just $1. Probably a heavily skewed risk-reward setup.
  • #39
  • Mar 19, 2026 1:43pm Mar 19, 2026 1:43pm
If a system really worked 100% of the time, exposing it publicly would almost definitely change how it performs. Markets are constantly adapting = so once lots of people use the same strategy, it usually loses its edge fast. That’s why professional traders keep their best strategies private. Even a small edge can disappear if everyone starts exploiting it. Basically.. a “perfect” system only works while it’s under the radar, so sharing it widely would probably make it much less effective.
  • #40
  • Mar 20, 2026 1:19am Mar 20, 2026 1:19am
Most of the people who commented here missed your point. They all rushed to correct you that there is no 100% winning system. This is true, but I think your question was about something different: “if I expose it to the public, would it affect the system?”
Short answer: YES.
Every winning system has an edge that it uses and this is the thing that makes it a winning one. The thing is that the market is ever evolving and no edge is permanent. Even if you don’t expose it to the public, the market will eventually find a way and eliminate your edge. It sounds strange, but this is the reality. On the other hand, if you expose it to the public, and it becomes popular, the edge will disappear even quicker.
You know, trading is a zero sum game. In order for one to win, another needs to lose. Hypoteticaly spaeking, if we all trade this 100% winning system, there will be no winners since there will be no losers.
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