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  • #3,061
  • Nov 9, 2024 9:15am Nov 9, 2024 9:15am
yes ok i have some questions =

- why use Daily with zigzag n stochastic n then fractalize the situation? (to note = to fractalize has nothin to do with timeframes). it creates multiple contradictions of depth in real activty. (see what i mean bout errors) n this then gives many false indications n unwanted side effects.

- in a perfect world where !!markets!! create patterns n indicators do da same thing over n over again, how does someone handle situations where the abnormal occurs?
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  • #3,062
  • Nov 9, 2024 9:24am Nov 9, 2024 9:24am
Quoting 2be
{quote} Hi tzamo, Than you for contributing insights to thoughtful sharing with the solid aim to make larger profits and to keep them. If one is using an MA on the main chart with a Stoch, with both set to the same reference window... then one can expect the price to have crossed the MA on the main chart when the Stoch oscillator goes from the above zone 70+ level and pushes a little ways past the 50 level... maybe closer to the 30 level. I have reposted the chart from my previous post so you do not need to switch between them Things to be aware...
ill be da one to say it then = divergence is for kiddies. ya only need to have 1 ONE thing change n youd lose ur convergence / divergence ability. ppl dont understand this.
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  • #3,063
  • Nov 9, 2024 9:43am Nov 9, 2024 9:43am
in life you dont just look at a !!price chart!! ...

eg

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not ur standard chart but tells plenty bout prices n gives details a price chart cannot give.

eg = stochastics, fractal ideas of markets, timeframes, divergence n convergence etc are mere symptoms of the charting software not life n not market movement.

in my exp ppl have da right to know of these things.
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  • #3,064
  • Nov 9, 2024 9:55am Nov 9, 2024 9:55am
i felt all o this was appropriate here on this thread. sorry G if you disagree. have fun
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  • #3,065
  • Nov 9, 2024 10:39am Nov 9, 2024 10:39am
started moving
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  • #3,066
  • Nov 9, 2024 11:25am Nov 9, 2024 11:25am
I also want to learn this properly where to start?
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  • #3,067
  • Nov 9, 2024 1:31pm Nov 9, 2024 1:31pm
Quoting oochiwaawaa
i felt all o this was appropriate here on this thread. sorry G if you disagree. have fun
You can say want you want I dont give a fuck. But you say that stochs and all used tools here are useless. I can make a million a day with them. So Im asking you, Im a fake trader based on the principles you deploy here? We are all wrong and you are going to enlight us? I ve been always open to new approaches but what I dont like is going to church you know. There are thousands of truths out there including mine or yours
Trade what you see
  • #3,068
  • Nov 9, 2024 1:43pm Nov 9, 2024 1:43pm
I agree that stochs or the principle of elasticity are symptoms that have a real explanation but I will leave you something to think about. And if one masters signals and knows how to detect market sentiment? Does it matter so much to know the real reasons that moves the market or to earn money in it constantly? Of course, I am very interested in knowing the intrinsic reasons for each rally in the market, but I doubt that any retailer has them. What I do know is that through mastery of structure and patterns one can earn enormous amounts of money. Fuck the intrinsic reasons that drive the market, you know.
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  • #3,069
  • Nov 9, 2024 2:52pm Nov 9, 2024 2:52pm
I'm starting to seriously distrust people who write strangely. I hope at least I don't get protrump garbage in this thread. Otherwise I'll have to end up being Aussie and start blocking people
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  • #3,070
  • Nov 9, 2024 3:02pm Nov 9, 2024 3:02pm
Quoting ghbdr
I'm starting to seriously distrust people who write strangely. I hope at least I don't get protrump garbage in this thread. Otherwise I'll have to end up being Aussie and start blocking people
yes please. not having to read shitty political takes and conspiratorial schizophrenic rambles are some of the things I like about this particular thread.
  • #3,071
  • Nov 9, 2024 3:45pm Nov 9, 2024 3:45pm
Quoting oochiwaawaa
{quote} if u believe that. personally n generally i dont think ppl online are anything like they are in person. thats the allure. as to what i posted n Gs thread etc = if you are still at that stage where you need to learn da basics then i suggest u do more readin than talkin. i dont see da point in askin ppl who may or may not be in any position to actually answer Qs that you may have better than you can. in my exp laziness has crept in coz technonlogy makes all ppl feel that its easy. i have reviewed many of Gs threads posted explanantions n while...
Albert Einstein said "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough". Your explanations are far from simple and I don't see any practical value in them. If anybody here does, please enlighten me.
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  • #3,072
  • Edited 4:38pm Nov 9, 2024 4:26pm | Edited 4:38pm
Quoting ghbdr
{quote} You can say want you want I dont give a fuck. But you say that stochs and all used tools here are useless. I can make a million a day with them. So Im asking you, Im a fake trader based on the principles you deploy here? We are all wrong and you are going to enlight us? I ve been always open to new approaches but what I dont like is going to church you know. There are thousands of truths out there including mine or yours
jr , only that much , sounds like your slacking , , oh forgot , them guitar gigs at the "club" okay , that splains it , late start some days maybe back in the cololial days when one got prices at eod or the next in a newspaper , probably different , now one can watch it happen live yet , yet dead knowledge is promoted , so funny, some cant "catch up" I reckon , sure what I see is bout as knowledgeable ya all are reading .
  • #3,073
  • Edited 5:08pm Nov 9, 2024 4:34pm | Edited 5:08pm
Quoting oochiwaawaa
{quote} ill be da one to say it then = divergence is for kiddies. ya only need to have 1 ONE thing change n youd lose ur convergence / divergence ability. ppl dont understand this.
What a great privilege and excitement to be quoted by an alien!

To confirm coordinates, you have come across the planet we call Earth, planet Earth is part we call The Solar system, and the Solar system is part of the Galaxy we call Milky Way.
We are called humans and live alongside animals, trees, grass, water, air, and alongside other things you might have come across.
We are a strange lot, for example we say that we love peace, truth, prosperity and health and often do things to achieve the exact opposite hoping nobody will realise it.
That however does not mean we are not welcoming, so I would assure that you are welcomed, whether your intelligence is below ours, with various degrees of primitiveness, or whether it is equal or far superior in many or all aspects.
So please rest assured, that irrespective from whichever nebula you have come, you are welcomed, as long as you behave in accordance with our customs, conventions, decorum and etiquette.

Before I sign off, I would like to ask you to forgive me as I am ignorant as to the extra-terrestrial and alien practices, and have not taken nor have been offered any vaccination against the possibility of a very serious and adverse influences as a direct result of being in any type of proximity with aliens, and for that reason I have had to put you in my "ignore list".
That however does not mean that I do not wish you great happiness and prosperity with all sincerity I can afford, on condition that it does not stand in direct contradistinction to humanity including myself.

Prefer to say polite goodbye, in preference to see you later,
2be
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  • #3,074
  • Nov 9, 2024 7:30pm Nov 9, 2024 7:30pm
Hello ghbdr
Noticed your thread on the front page so just taking a quick look at it...
I guess the first thing that strikes me is the advertising on your charts.
Set and forget..

Im curious is that you ? Alfonso Moreno. Or do you add that for another reason ?

Thanks
Blue
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  • #3,075
  • Nov 9, 2024 10:48pm Nov 9, 2024 10:48pm
Quoting ghbdr
{quote} You can say want you want I dont give a fuck. But you say that stochs and all used tools here are useless. I can make a million a day with them. So Im asking you, Im a fake trader based on the principles you deploy here? We are all wrong and you are going to enlight us? I ve been always open to new approaches but what I dont like is going to church you know. There are thousands of truths out there including mine or yours
ok. youve been frank with me so ill be da same. interneter defensiveness only shows what was said hit a nerve. you KNOW stochs displace at times. you KNOW stochs under or over stretch. you KNOW usin em for !!divergences/convergences!! offers differing grains of success in outcomes. if i wanted to !!take ya to church!! youd be readin 100s o pages of typin. all i said was that lil bit o writing there. didnt need to say alot. just the things that matter.

and so again im pointin out da difference between study n research n games vs real activity. i dont play da messiah guru i-know-better-than-you cards. why? its a waste o time. reality will show ppl. i dont need to do anythin else. !!truths!! ?? i think you mean opinions that arent backed up by any real research. so only u know if ur a fake trader. but unless u actually look at what you choose to put ur money into, theres really nothin i can say to persuade or convince ya. be like digger1 or any other who wont look or stare at da obvious but meanwhile, just by their presence, imprints certain ideas or realities on other ppl. whether those ppl know better or not.

ur daily el. idea is good but to me is let down by really, way down in its guts, offers little else than the thousands of other pages n websites that push whats popular. in my exp since the internet came along whats popular usually means trouble. so dismiss all this or dont. gotta luv free will. have fun
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  • #3,076
  • Nov 9, 2024 11:18pm Nov 9, 2024 11:18pm
Quoting DocAtFx
{quote} Albert Einstein said "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough". Your explanations are far from simple and I don't see any practical value in them. If anybody here does, please enlighten me.
i really wish ppl would do some research instead o usin these stupid !!memes!!. einstein never said that. its been said since the dawn of analytical thought.

all u have to do is LOOK. ur too busy tryin to reference it into ITS BOX of where it belongs. simple dont mean stupid. and simple isnt always simple. now LAZY on other hand is easier to view. i think u need to do LOTS MORE study n research. askin these ppl wont help ESPECIALLY IF they dont know either. ya dig it?!

so heres MY idea o simple explained for you = u have strata to ALL finance on the planet. some talk bout central banks etc but thats not strata thats label identification. !!everyone talkin da same talk!! dont make it so. ForEx is strata limited as you have 2 main types - futures/otc and spot. spot is whenever ya go somewhere that dont use ur usual money. eg go outta country. money changers or banks etc do the !!swapping!! of 1 currency strata for another. and this is how a bank can also act as a portal for accounts by or for da !!customer!!. futures n otc is on margin which means you usually have no choice but to borrow to EXCHANGE for the limited liability of the derived asset u are !!using!! or better known as !!buyin/sellin!!. since its a derived !!thing!! its calculated as either asset or liability for SOMEONE in da process. thats why when you win profits ur not winning anythin youre being paid whats owed. and da same if you lose. amateur speculators only chase profits while tryin to minimize risk n loss. but da way they do this is !!thru the portals provided to em!! = eg stoploss or limit hedge etc. sounds all great til the bill comes. da ratio of risk to gain when all is accounted for, doing it all this way is ludicrous. you are LITERALLY PHYSICALLY acceptin all da risks. THEIR RISKS offset to you. UNLESS its the ocassional flurry n you dont care about da loss / payin someone else.

so now to the posts o mine with those charts = since ForEx as cfds or otc is derived the $$$ MUST come from somewhere that can either, almost completely reduce the risk associations for THEM, OR, pass on those risks to others. so basically to get others to pay for their losses/payments. in walks da liquidity !!providers!! with deep pockets coz they may be a bank or some other very liquid entity. by formin n then endorsin n reinforcin da sub-strata structure of "liq prov then thru others then broker then end user", the details reqd to mitigate the REAL risk associations are buried under the distraction of !!whats popular!!, when u finally see it all as !!the trader!!..... BUT in a very different form. long term experienced ppl have always known this. now u do too. those charts are ur way to use the REFERENCE PLATFORM (futures/otc/cfds) to gain access to da liq provs $$$, in simple language. doin this is far less risk weighted.

and so it dont matter if u believe this or accept it or anythin else. it is what it has always been. hope u find this helpful. have fun
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  • #3,077
  • Nov 9, 2024 11:20pm Nov 9, 2024 11:20pm
Quoting 2be
{quote} What a great privilege and excitement to be quoted by an alien! To confirm coordinates, you have come across the planet we call Earth, planet Earth is part we call The Solar system, and the Solar system is part of the Galaxy we call Milky Way. We are called humans and live alongside animals, trees, grass, water, air, and alongside other things you might have come across. We are a strange lot, for example we say that we love peace, truth, prosperity and health and often do things to achieve the exact opposite hoping nobody will realise it....
ok so can i summize ur still a teenager then? okidoki. gotta luv interneters. have fun
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  • #3,078
  • Nov 9, 2024 11:42pm Nov 9, 2024 11:42pm
Quoting digger1
{quote}jr , only that much , sounds like your slacking , , oh forgot , them guitar gigs at the "club" okay , that splains it , late start some days maybe back in the cololial days when one got prices at eod or the next in a newspaper , probably different , now one can watch it happen live yet , yet dead knowledge is promoted , so funny, some cant "catch up" I reckon , sure what I see is bout as knowledgeable ya all are reading .

but hey, youve got a !!following!! so you MUST be right. so is it dumb, lazy or thief .... digger1 ? which one describes the attitude you display ? coz da knowledge u present is so offkey one might think u are deliberately promotin somethin that may be harmful to ppl..... if they think to look forward on their own ofc. have fun
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  • #3,079
  • Nov 10, 2024 12:16am Nov 10, 2024 12:16am
@oochiwaawaa
What do you really want to gain/achieve with these your posts in this thread?
Why all your bickering and attacking of members since last week?

Ghbdr or the Digs have not promoted anything in their posts.

If you are not satisfied or not okay with what these individuals are teaching traders;
i. open your thread to show your trading skills so that other and interested members could learn from you;
ii. ignore and do not read whatever these individuals are posting.

Kindly give those of us that want to learn and improve on our trading
some breathing space, and peaceful thread environment to learn.
  • #3,080
  • Nov 10, 2024 12:34am Nov 10, 2024 12:34am
Quoting Godwin Igili
@oochiwaawaa What do you really want to gain/achieve with these your posts in this thread? Why all your bickering and attacking of members since last week? Ghbdr or the Digs have not promoted anything in their posts. If you are not satisfied or not okay with what these individuals are teaching traders; i. open your thread to show your trading skills so that other and interested members could learn from you; ii. ignore and do not read whatever these individuals are posting. Kindly give those of...
i thought it was simple = i dont like hucksters...

https://www.google.com/search?q=huck...t=gws-wiz-serp

= if someone !!needs!! a forum to think n learn u got trouble. maybe u should try learnin somethin bout marketing. it is the art of persuasive repetition n influence that changes a persons thinking in specific ways to align with somethin specifically intended. ergo it always has an end goal. so by repetitive acts of talking n pictures if ur not in control of ur mind n thinkin, youll believe em without fact checkin. thats not tradin thats followin.

i have opened a thread. but what i do is not popular or !!liked!! so its not popular. do i care? no. why not? becoz i can read n think. i know how to write n calculate n can do research to find out what im gettin myself into. it appears many here dont do this. they rely on strangers to tell em how it is.

its da difference between realness vs talk. ppl need to see da difference between study vs activity. the gap is astronomical n obvious. you dont have to like someone to know theyre tellin da truth. BUT it always helps to do your own due diligence AWAY FROM the marketed influence / rs. get it?

all this talk bout ignore dont ignore. you dont find it just a tad childish?

besides all this, its a public forum. if i see ppl who are clearly tryin to learn or get better, being misguided ill say somethin. da internet is full o hucksters. but real activity shows da knowledge n vice versa not what !!some ppl!! insist on doin n sayin then classify it as knowledge. ur head is da environment to learn not some screen. maybe THATS the problem here. have fun
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