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  • #281
  • Nov 2, 2024 9:48am Nov 2, 2024 9:48am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Didn't see that there was such code about your system. I was just surprised because in another answer you said to me that you wouldn't use an automatic system. I understand the reason why you attach these isolated and incomplete MT4 trading reports to your posts as an ego thing (look here) without any foreseeable interest for another trader. I thought you wanted to convey something of value ;-) Keep it up and good luck with Darwinex.
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the code is there..... on several web sites..... all conceived and coded by me..... source code is always included.....

not sure where i have implied i use fully automatic systems in the traditional sense...... i do not..... i do use expert advisors...... probably at least 10 run 24 hours a day..... all but a couple are doing data mining for future trades...... i do not use traditional expert advisors .....

we do not have the ability to add or subtract from metatraders account reports ..... we simply right click on history..... i just take a screenshot of the metrics..... what you see is what i see..... maybe there is no value in it......

really not sure of my frequency posting them on forexfactory, but on several other sites for my journal reference, i post almost every friday..... along with notes and ideas to me..... the same can be said of all my forexfactory journals here, like in search of minimum wage.....

really not sure what i was trying to convey, most likely nothing...... your accusation has made me think ...... perhaps you are correct, here is not appropriate..... same might be said of code and systems.....

in any event just to be safe, i will never post one anywhere on forexfactory again......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #282
  • Nov 2, 2024 10:12am Nov 2, 2024 10:12am
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Worse. The 0.32 could have worked for Silver and the smaller allocations but every time he got moved to Gold he wouldnt qualify for allocation and would slip back to Silver. The steady silver wins would keep bumping him to Gold where he would lose. Profitable overall because you'd sill be trading the Silver allocations (prob only 30K's) but you would never get Gold ones - wasted new alloc month even though you could profit. The big win months where you earn larger allocations plus good gain months when you do have the large allocations would...
Exactly why I stated yesterday, I will be more aggresive in my now 2nd quarter....prepping for Gold. Current month return is KING in Gold, previous returns have no impact at all.
  • #283
  • Nov 2, 2024 2:01pm Nov 2, 2024 2:01pm
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Leverage increase? - What leverage does Darwinex Zero offer? | Darwinex Docs
Well, not my leverage. I meant to say my risk factor adjustment which is at 0.34
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #284
  • Nov 2, 2024 2:06pm Nov 2, 2024 2:06pm
Quoting OutThere
The trader ranking 1 in gold (AMZ) has made 28.53% in almost 89 months. That is .32% a month. If he had made exactly that .32% every month, would he be better off? or worse or same?
I only see 45 months.

Honestly, not concerned what others are doing.

Average 3% per month for 3 years and cash will be falling out of the sky like manna from heaven
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #285
  • Edited 2:50pm Nov 2, 2024 2:35pm | Edited 2:50pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I only see 45 months. Honestly, not concerned what others are doing. Average 3% per month for 3 years and cash will be falling out of the sky like manna from heaven
I like how much a random good month can boost you. Get boosted into Gold and land a couple nice 6-month allocations + the 100K and you're setup for a while. Doing good from the jump!
  • #286
  • Edited 3:53pm Nov 2, 2024 3:35pm | Edited 3:53pm
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Worse. The 0.32 could have worked for Silver and the smaller allocations but every time he got moved to Gold he wouldnt qualify for allocation and would slip back to Silver. The steady silver wins would keep bumping him to Gold where he would lose. Profitable overall because you'd sill be trading the Silver allocations (prob only 30K's) but you would never get Gold ones - wasted new alloc month even though you could profit. The big win months where you earn larger allocations plus good gain months when you do have the large allocations would...
Lol. Shows how one can be in gold and still be meandering around like a fool.
Are you sure a consistant steady low earning would work worse? It'd be like getting punished for being consistent.

After 4 months, assuming .32 is enough to secure a 30K allocation, it will have 180K (I think) and will remain always allocated with that much or more as long as .32 comes in steady every month.


I am trying to see if I need to ramp it up which means bigger dd or I can just stay really low down and still reap some big trader benefits.
If someone comes across a trader on darwinex that has had positive low steady gains with really low dd over a year pls let me know.
  • #287
  • Nov 2, 2024 3:52pm Nov 2, 2024 3:52pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Lol. Shows how one can be in gold and still be meandering around like a fool. Are you sure a consistant steady low earning would work worse? It'd be like getting punished for being consistent. After 4 months, assuming .32 is enough to secure a 30K allocation, it will have 180K (I think) and will remain always allocated with that much or more as long as .32 comes in steady every month. I am trying to see if I need to ramp it up which means bigger dd or I can just stay really low down and still reap some big trader benefits
Dont forget that you would keep getting boosted into Gold and not getting allocation. So you would keep creating allocation gaps. they would be covered by still running Silver but your steady 30K allocation strings would keep getting interrupted. Silver allocations only last for 3 months (up to 3 stacks). Golds last for 6 months (up to 6 stacks) (you'll never get one). You would be trading with max 90K and some months only 60K.
  • #288
  • Nov 2, 2024 3:56pm Nov 2, 2024 3:56pm
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Dont forget that you would keep getting boosted into Gold and not getting allocation. So you would keep creating allocation gaps. they would be covered by still running Silver but your steady 30K allocation strings would keep getting interrupted. Silver allocations only last for 3 months. Golds last for 6 months (you'll never get one). You would be trading with max 90K and some months only 60K.
Wow. Maybe getting to gold would attract investors at least?
Could the allocation gaps be covered if a 100K is bought? Then there will always be an allocation.
  • #289
  • Nov 2, 2024 4:02pm Nov 2, 2024 4:02pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Wow. Maybe getting to gold would attract investors at least? Could the allocation gaps be covered if a 100K is bought? Then there will always be an allocation.
Ahhh.... Nice Save. Get the 100K but it'll take a while for you to activate it or pay for itself (your choice). That makes your floor 190K and 160K (plus investor capital). Best use of the feature.
  • #290
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:26pm Nov 2, 2024 6:26pm
Initially I thought you buy 100K, pay subs until you reach the +5% and then no need to pay subs because you 'bought' the account and no longer need to pay a monthly rent (subs). That'd be a good deal.
  • #291
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:36pm Nov 2, 2024 6:36pm
Quoting OutThere
Initially I thought you buy 100K, pay subs until you reach the +5% and then no need to pay subs because you 'bought' the account and no longer need to pay a monthly rent (subs). That'd be a good deal.
If everything works as they say it should, that sub fee becomes irrelevant.
  • #292
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:38pm Nov 2, 2024 6:38pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Wow. Maybe getting to gold would attract investors at least? Could the allocation gaps be covered if a 100K is bought? Then there will always be an allocation.
They say if you consistently pull 2% per month ,you should attract some investor capital. Of course you want to keep your profit to DD at 2.5:1 minimum as well.
  • #293
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:41pm Nov 2, 2024 6:41pm
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Ahhh.... Nice Save. Get the 100K but it'll take a while for you to activate it or pay for itself (your choice). That makes your floor 190K and 160K (plus investor capital). Best use of the feature.
I haven't looked into the 100K and how it exactly works.......and I hate to be spoon fed, but if you have already run the numbers, how much of an advantadge is it to pay the $540 for the 5% target vs. whatever the cost for the 20%....if you earn on it immediately, it will work out the same, obviously just take longer to hit the 20%....or am I way off the mark and should go study it further?
Keeping in mind I am at 90K and cannot see how I could possibly drop below that.
  • #294
  • Nov 2, 2024 8:49pm Nov 2, 2024 8:49pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I haven't looked into the 100K and how it exactly works.......and I hate to be spoon fed, but if you have already run the numbers, how much of an advantadge is it to pay the $540 for the 5% target vs. whatever the cost for the 20%....if you earn on it immediately, it will work out the same, obviously just take longer to hit the 20%....or am I way off the mark and should go study it further? Keeping in mind I am at 90K and cannot see how I could possibly drop below that.
The 100K isnt a bad deal. Its a simple system. It adds the percent you BUY to your quote. When you reach it the 100K is activated. Quote: 110.00 + 5% Plan = 115.00 Quote activates the 100K. It snapshots your quote when you Buy it and adds the percent as a target. You just need to earn 3.3% to pay for the 5%. So a 8.3% month would activate AND pay for it (5+3.3).

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  • #295
  • Nov 2, 2024 11:40pm Nov 2, 2024 11:40pm
I've to say despite the vids and explanations and q&a about Dawinex here, one has to go through all the stages themselves to fully understand the whole picture and their own whereabouts within Darwinex.
I see it from posts here and there written by experienced traders who were nervous or trying to configure thing before getting there and other 'how the heck' bewilderments..... So I'm not alone. lol

But, I'm patiently waiting to see what comes next whenever...
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  • #296
  • Edited 1:28am Nov 3, 2024 1:02am | Edited 1:28am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} They say if you consistently pull 2% per month ,you should attract some investor capital. Of course you want to keep your profit to DD at 2.5:1 minimum as well.
I think I'll have to see firsthand how the risk engine works in relation to my trades first.
Maybe I will have to make adjustments along the way...which I suspect I will have to.

Meanwhile, 75 starts at #557 atm.
  • #297
  • Nov 3, 2024 4:05am Nov 3, 2024 4:05am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I only see 45 months. Honestly, not concerned what others are doing. Average 3% per month for 3 years and cash will be falling out of the sky like manna from heaven
I went looking for manna from heaven traders to see how much manna they got.

Obvious place to go was the hall of fame list that someone already posted.
https://www.darwinex.com/darwinia/hall-of-fame

On that page, the 1st 6 are corporations or not available.

The 7th one, OakLadder (ERQ) is available and currently active.
He has made 153,096.24 € Performance fees since the beginning which was 04/08/2014. Roughly 10 years.
Less the 120 monthly sub fees of course.
239% profit and 1.7m under management.
Big time trader.

So, he made an average of 15K per year in performance fees.

Not meaning to be unappreciative but manna from heaven?
You gotta beat this guy and become #6 on the hall of fame list to get as close as this to manna-ish from heaven.
Less 120 months of sub fees of course.
  • #298
  • Nov 3, 2024 4:16am Nov 3, 2024 4:16am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I went looking for manna from heaven traders to see how much manna they got. Obvious place to go was the hall of fame list that someone already posted. https://www.darwinex.com/darwinia/hall-of-fame On that page, the 1st 6 are corporations or not available. The 7th one, OakLadder (ERQ) is available and currently active. He has made 153,096.24 € Performance fees since the beginning which was 04/08/2014. Roughly 10 years. 239% profit and 1.7m under management. Big time trader. So, he made an average of 15K per year in performance...
I think all prior trading records will be smashed! The 100K will boost performance fees just by itself. The hall of fame doesnt track with the current huge Gold allocations people are being awarded (prob rise over time). Trader gain percent is higher these days too they just dont have long track records yet. I expect a LOT of turnover on that list over the next 2-3 years. Thales THA is at the top of Gold hall-of-fame and their track record is long.
  • #299
  • Nov 3, 2024 5:16am Nov 3, 2024 5:16am
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} I think all prior trading records will be smashed! The 100K will boost performance fees just by itself. The hall of fame doesnt track with the current huge Gold allocations people are being awarded (prob rise over time). Trader gain percent is higher these days too they just dont have long track records yet. I expect a LOT of turnover on that list over the next 2-3 years. Thales THA is at the top of Gold hall-of-fame and their track record is long.
The site says:

Obtain 100k per year in Performance Fees
A DARWIN can reach 100k per year in Performance Fees if you obtain a yearly return of 20% and an AuM of 3.5 million. Said investment value has been achieved by 4 DARWINs in the past.
This extra income does not involve any additional effort or cost on your side You only have to worry about trading on your underlying strategy the same as you have done previously.



But these 4 aren't on the hall of fame list?

I tried THA that you mentioned on the hall of fame list but quickly redirected me to their main site.
I don't think there is a "Gold hall-of-fame" anywhere.

There is quite a bit of hype involved for sure.

For the 100K, I would really have to buy it and try it to get a feel of what it can do...till then...
  • #300
  • Nov 3, 2024 6:18am Nov 3, 2024 6:18am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} The site says: Obtain 100k per year in Performance Fees A DARWIN can reach 100k per year in Performance Fees if you obtain a yearly return of 20% and an AuM of 3.5 million. Said investment value has been achieved by 4 DARWINs in the past. This extra income does not involve any additional effort or cost on your side You only have to worry about trading on your underlying strategy the same as you have done previously. But these 4 aren't on the hall of fame list? I tried THA that you mentioned on the hall of fame list but quickly redirected...
It will be extremely difficult to get 100k per year.

If we are getting 2% per month or 20% per year, I expect we get monthly allocation from 100k to 500k per month (3 months consecutive allocation from silver and 6 months from gold) without investor’s capital.

So performance fees I expect is anywhere between 300 to 1500 per month (which is not a lot.) However it can increase further if you can attract investors.

The only problem with Darwinex is it is not that popular, even with the top investor THA with 10 years long track record, he only has 1000+ investors investing on him.
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