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  • #21
  • Jul 17, 2007 3:49pm Jul 17, 2007 3:49pm
I have enjoyed this method, too. I'm up 2% in 2 weeks.
  • #22
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:20am Jul 19, 2007 11:20am
Quoting mikejody
I have enjoyed this method, too. I'm up 2% in 2 weeks.
hi mike,
i rather to take profit by close all orders when it reached... and then start again.. and it made 1.5% at my 1st day

i use this ea to do his job

i think this system is a good idea... brilliant maybe....


and we need EA to do exactly the CTRADER methode

do you have skill at programing?
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  • #23
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:22am Jul 19, 2007 11:22am
this is simple ea for close at target
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  • #24
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:26am Jul 19, 2007 11:26am
Quoting stevenali
this is simple ea for close at target
There are several EAs that close all orders. I will attach my favorite.

Let me ask you, why do you close all orders just to reopen again? Doesn't that just cost you spread? Just trying to learn...
  • #25
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:28am Jul 19, 2007 11:28am
Oops, forgot to attach. Here it is.
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File Type: mq4 Swiss Army EA v1.35.mq4   19 KB | 570 downloads
  • #26
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:30am Jul 19, 2007 11:30am
Quoting mikejody
There are several EAs that close all orders. I will attach my favorite.

Let me ask you, why do you close all orders just to reopen again? Doesn't that just cost you spread? Just trying to learn...
simple answer.... because i think i'm gonna tired to close only part which mentioned at ctrader pdf file:

until we have CTRADER EA, it will be more simple for us

but maybe if we close all of them, we can have more good position?
what do you think?
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  • #27
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:51am Jul 19, 2007 11:51am
it wil be good if EA has MM with compounding
for example if balance rise 100$, then it will open 1st entry at 0,21 lot mini
at 10.000$ account
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  • #28
  • Jul 19, 2007 11:54am Jul 19, 2007 11:54am
Quoting mikejody
Oops, forgot to attach. Here it is.
thx for this
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  • #29
  • Jul 19, 2007 1:04pm Jul 19, 2007 1:04pm
i got 1% ($100) at ibfx... i closed all, take the profit and re open all again



so many time i see profit went from minus to 100$ back to minus and
back to 100$ again


time to sleep here
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  • #30
  • Jul 19, 2007 6:00pm Jul 19, 2007 6:00pm
6%in two days

6\not every pair got swap at ODL broker
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  • #31
  • Jul 19, 2007 6:06pm Jul 19, 2007 6:06pm
i can't believe it
amazing!! painless!!
(LOL..... keep forward test... but it will be better using EA)
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  • #32
  • Jul 20, 2007 5:09pm Jul 20, 2007 5:09pm
Quoting stevenali
i got 1% ($100) at ibfx... i closed all, take the profit and re open all again



so many time i see profit went from minus to 100$ back to minus and
back to 100$ again


time to sleep here
stevenali - I think unless you are planning to game the direction, that you just leave it open and collect the swap. If it goes from $10,100 and then you close out..... are you going to track it for a drop to re-enter? If you close out the core at $10,100 and then re-open right away, you lose probably $10-$20 in spread than if you just left it alone. I have run a forward test now for 3.5 months and it is up 15.5%. The core position was opened on 4/05/07 and it has an open float profit of $4,915. I like to leave it open since I want to keep the method hands off and not have to figure out direction. If I take it off and $10,100 and hope to re-add when it WOULD have gotten to $10,000 had I stayed in, then I am bummed out and I sell the core position and it would have went to $10,200, yet I am not in.

Thoughts?
  • #33
  • Jul 20, 2007 5:23pm Jul 20, 2007 5:23pm
Quoting stevenali
hi mike,
i rather to take profit by close all orders when it reached... and then start again.. and it made 1.5% at my 1st day

i use this ea to do his job

i think this system is a good idea... brilliant maybe....


and we need EA to do exactly the CTRADER methode

do you have skill at programing?
I personally think you are WAY too overleveraged by looking at this statement. I have seen 4% drops in my account over 3.5 months and that is on a $100,000 using the same size as yours. This is also during a good time for the carry trade. At your current leverage, you will eventually blow up the $10k account. Try about 10 times smaller size imo.

Glad you like it! I like to think it's brilliant, but it's mostly just a compilation of many others, who are smarter than me, ideas. I just put all the ideas into a portfolio...... nothing special about that. Given enough time, most people would have come to the same information!
  • #34
  • Edited 8:18pm Jul 20, 2007 7:58pm | Edited 8:18pm
interesting...how do you know how to structure the basket?
  • #35
  • Jul 21, 2007 12:22am Jul 21, 2007 12:22am
Quoting fx_ninja
interesting...how do you know how to structure the basket?
There are countless possibilities. I tend to want to make sure the net result is that the basket is collecting interest daily since over time money will go to where it is treated best, and secondly reduce risk per currency as much as possible.

Most beginner "hedgies" for example think that being long EURUSD and USDCHF is a hedge, when in reality it is basically being long the EURCHF pair only. That is not a hedge.

While this next example is also not a hedge - it is closer to one than that. Short EURUSD and short USDCHF and long EURCHF. That is a positive swap basket that is somewhat more hedged. You are Short 1 and Long 1 of each: USD. EUR, CHF Now you can play those three as "one currency" That is still net long EURCHF but not as bad. The idea then is to come up with as many of these types of hedges in different currencies for diversification purposes. Once you have 10-20 different pairs, you trade the whole basket with the martingale as if the whole basket were just one pair. It's the most diversified "currency pair" that one could ever trade the martingale system on. If you have followed any of the martingale strategies you will see them work for a short period and then blow up that one time the one currency goes against you 500-1000 pips. The doubling up on losers in that instance is an account killer. As you can see by my demo started 3.5 months ago, I have had the USDCAD go about 1200 pips against me, yet I am up 15.5% in 3.5 months. ANY, and I mean ANY other martingale system would have blown up many times over doubling up on that one pair. That pair though is only making up 1/13 of my "most diversifed basket pair". The more pairs you add that are non-correlated, I think the safer this becomes and the more you can leverage up. Use GFT or Saxo and you can start adding crazy pairs like NOK/MXN!!! That will add some diversification. If you can get 30-50 pairs in there and find the perfect leverage, I think you can pop out 5-10% a month and give yourself a VERY low risk of blowing up.
  • #36
  • Jul 21, 2007 1:10am Jul 21, 2007 1:10am
I have been trading this live and think this is the best hedge method available anywhere. It is sound and conservative, yet consistently profitable and safe.

For instance, just today the /JPY pairs sunk like an anchor, at least 250 pips on many of them. A $10K account would have been down about $150.00 is all; 1.5%. A martingale on a single pair would be near margin call.

VTAM, thank you for this method, and for sharing it with us for free. Many blessings to you!

Quoting chartguy
There are countless possibilities. I tend to want to make sure the net result is that the basket is collecting interest daily since over time money will go to where it is treated best, and secondly reduce risk per currency as much as possible.

Most beginner "hedgies" for example think that being long EURUSD and USDCHF is a hedge, when in reality it is basically being long the EURCHF pair only. That is not a hedge.

While this next example is also not a hedge - it is closer to one than that. Short EURUSD and short USDCHF and long EURCHF. That is a positive swap basket that is somewhat more hedged. You are Short 1 and Long 1 of each: USD. EUR, CHF Now you can play those three as "one currency" That is still net long EURCHF but not as bad. The idea then is to come up with as many of these types of hedges in different currencies for diversification purposes. Once you have 10-20 different pairs, you trade the whole basket with the martingale as if the whole basket were just one pair. It's the most diversified "currency pair" that one could ever trade the martingale system on. If you have followed any of the martingale strategies you will see them work for a short period and then blow up that one time the one currency goes against you 500-1000 pips. The doubling up on losers in that instance is an account killer. As you can see by my demo started 3.5 months ago, I have had the USDCAD go about 1200 pips against me, yet I am up 15.5% in 3.5 months. ANY, and I mean ANY other martingale system would have blown up many times over doubling up on that one pair. That pair though is only making up 1/13 of my "most diversifed basket pair". The more pairs you add that are non-correlated, I think the safer this becomes and the more you can leverage up. Use GFT or Saxo and you can start adding crazy pairs like NOK/MXN!!! That will add some diversification. If you can get 30-50 pairs in there and find the perfect leverage, I think you can pop out 5-10% a month and give yourself a VERY low risk of blowing up.
  • #37
  • Jul 21, 2007 2:20am Jul 21, 2007 2:20am
the swap rate link address in the PDF file did'nt seem to work for me so here is a link to interbank fx swap rates that did....... http://www.interbankfx.com/Tools/SwapRates.aspx
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  • #38
  • Jul 21, 2007 2:19pm Jul 21, 2007 2:19pm
Also I guess I'm a little thick this week but ....how do you determine the pairs?
are you choosing the pairs that are intrest positive? and then creating the basket?
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  • #39
  • Jul 21, 2007 2:27pm Jul 21, 2007 2:27pm
I believe VTAM chose the pairs that were both interest positive and market neutral (to some degree), as safety was just as paramount as positive swap.

Quoting johnedoe
Also I guess I'm a little thick this week but ....how do you determine the pairs?
are you choosing the pairs that are intrest positive? and then creating the basket?
  • #40
  • Edited Jul 22, 2007 12:14am Jul 21, 2007 2:46pm | Edited Jul 22, 2007 12:14am
updated list, see post#42
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