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It may be clearer if I explain part of the process that I use and whether these functions can be input into TS to produce a curve or forecast model. As an example if I'm expecting a potential turning point on a certain date like the 23rd September as an example on a particular instrument usually I would examine the aspects both Geo and Helio leading up into this date then a few days past and list these aspects on a piece of paper. On this date Geo Earth is conjunct Neptune which represents only one part of the analysis so using the manual method I dialled back 360° over a seven or ten year period depending on the price data to examine the position of the market under this influence but to establish a clearer interpretation relative to the current position of the market all instances of this conjunction really have to be measured in rising markets to match the current format. So performing this single calculation manually isn't to laborious but perhaps if I ran it through TS the aspect would be represented by a vertical bar or something on the chart? There would be several other Geo aspects that would require evaluation and the second one I performed manually was the Venus Pluto trine culminating around the 23rd so due to the slow orbit of Pluto this aspect occured relatively in the same degree of the zodiac each year so that would be the second part of the calculations in trying to form a determination on market reaction or pattern of trend around those repeat points but looking for more points of confirmation with the software to build a stronger case

Started with Astronomy composite and tried to take a photo and upload it but file exceeded insert images capability so drew it out manually instead. From what I can see there are two projections Geo and Helio so comparing the Geo model to the current position of Bitcoin shows a clear divergence with trend running against the annual projection line in Geo format with most of the low points coming around 185° after the decline beginning mid way through Leo so this model is out of sync with the current position of trend on Bitcoin. But when you look at the Helio model which contains four projection lines the same as the Geo model there is a clear divergence between the upper wave which peaks around 179° and is in sync with the current price structure proceeded by a run down however the the lower three waves all show troughs into the 179° point followed by lower tops into the 192° point before moving lower so the upper wave seems to be in alignment with my forecast for potential Top on Sept 23rd but the lower three bands don't begin to turn down until 192° two weeks after the projected Top.
So what is the difference in construction between the upper wave peaking into Sept 23rd and the two lower bands as there is a clear time divergence between the two points thanks

Also had a look at the Geo Sun angles to begin with and have taken some notes below

Can someone please help with these questions
When viewing the various Sun planetary angles why are there three or four different waves displayed with peaks and troughs are at different points in time?
I was thinking that if the software just selected a given time period it would calculate the average composite wave this producing one projection line so it would be interesting to understand the criteria and logic behind all three lines.
There is a tab on the left hand side that says sm2 sm4 etc so I'm assuming these averages are set at at different parameters.

The next question is how can I select a point on the chart and run a synodicb cycles forward from that point and what boxes or input criteria are required to perform this function? As an example if I wish to take Helio Venus and Jupiter and anchor it off a given point how could I project that 90 120 180 day sequence into the future and are the time intervals set or would I have to manually input them. Thanks

I'm struggling to find the time to download and look - If you're patient, at some point i the next few weeks I will get there and I'll be able to work it out, as I've not looked at the software, I don't know what it can or can't do

Not everyone will get this chart - I'll leave it to the Individual

But this is one of the things you are looking for when using planets - Planets are EXACT, they do NOT alter their cycles

So in the chart in the quoted part, you saw I created it May 2015 - YEARS AGOOOOOOOO

If you continue the pattern you will get to 360 degs - you could times the 120 deg marker by 3 and the 180 marker by 2 and you will get the same date

When those dates arrive there WILL be a very definite move by the SP500 - Remember planets have fast and slow parts to their orbits, so these splits are not exact amounts, but when it all comes together they ARE EXACT - This WILL NOT be the final TOP, the final TOP comes in 2034

Gann wrote a book called 45 years on wall street - that was a veiled message/clue to look at Sat/Uranus combo as its cycle is 45 years and you can see the HARMONIC splits

So here is the PREDICTION some 8 years prior and you can see if you had done this calc back in 2015 some 17 YEARS BEFORE the event/in advance! - in 2032 there will be a HIGH, CRASH into a low - It WILL BE [THE LOW] +/- a week or so of EXACTNESS - The LOW will be the LAST opportunity to make money to the long side of the SP500 Index for a while, it will rise UP into 2034 and then at that point all hell breaks loose

Thanks THT will go back over that soon . It appears you are basing your calculations on the synodic periods between the larger planets . I guess the same set of application and calculations could also be used on the inner bodies such as Venus and Mars in particularly Mars as any reversals that align with this sequence tend to be longer in duration and greater in amplitude - this is the next area I would like to work on with TS which I have just downloaded and working through so I need to understand how this calculation is performed in the software. My plan is to just work systematically through a few applications building on each one so a step by step approach trying to gain a deeper understanding into each process as I move along.

The first set of questions I have is in regards Alon Avromson video from 2019 on BA where he sets up the combined model.
1 how do we add the annual cycle - what button do you press
2 adding the quarterly cycle what button
3 adding the monthly cycle " "
4 adding the weekly cycle " "
So once all of these waves are projected on the chart in individual sequence that's the first task I am trying to achieve.
He also adds in the daily wave but it is quite jagged so from this point after having all of these waves on the screen . He then integrates all of these waves together to create a composite line - is this calculation available and can it be performed on TS after all of these waves are presented on the chart?

Hi
Lonestar52,

you can share link for this video?


Thanks

Sacred Geometry : Vesica Piscis

Just started working with the planetary cycles in TS and slowly getting used to their applications and how to plot them on the chart. one of the first functions it can perform is to plot the various harmonic intervals such as 30° 60° 90° etc on the standard orbital rotation of the body so in the case of Venus it will take the 225° orbit and mark out the time intervals with vertical lines so that was the first step in understanding how TS works. the second application plots the synodic cycles in the same format and gives you the ability to select the various Sun related cycles such as the Sun and Venus cycle from inferior conjunction to inferior conjunction a time period of 584° and divides that length into its proportionate parts so you can select a starting date and scale the time sequence out from that point but sometimes it seems to jump around and do strange things so slowly getting used to the functions. One thing I've noticed with the synodic cycles is at certain times they will align with past Tops and bottoms within a two or three day period and at other intervals such as 90 or 180° they don't align against points at all so I am just experimenting with these applications at present. One method I am trialling is to take a future point that has been calculated using other factors then using that origin point to run the calculations back into the past to ascertain if any of the synodic relationships correlate with that point or whether the fixed period cycles tie in also so when using new software it takes quite a while to became familiar with the applications . As there are so many different synodic pairings to work with i am trying to develop a systematic approach by working through the main cycles one by one by projecting the calculations backwards from a future point and looking for two to three points of alignment

THT have you tried to apply or studied the effect of these synodic cycles using the inner planets as a timing mechanism. There seems to be two approaches in trying to determine what the true cause of reversals are based on the first hypothesis being that certain planetary transits from past points can correlate or cause shifts in the market but trying to determine which transit is responsible can be difficult until after the fact. The second approach would be to apply synodic cycles involving different pairs and project these forward from prominent Tops or Bottoms in an attempt to locate future points but trying to ascertain which pairing and from what point is going to match up with a future date is difficult and would require the addition of other factors to validate the likelihood of the turning point. Or the third process may involve running out several projections involving different pairs including both the inner and outer bodies in 15° steps and looking for points where both the outer and inner bodies move into alignment which would increase the probability of a shift at that point due to the harmonic intervals of two to three pairs culminating around that date , is that one of your approaches, it would be good if you can email me , I believe you already have my address thanks

THT have you tried to apply or studied the effect of these synodic cycles using the inner planets as a timing mechanism. There seems to be two approaches in trying to determine what the true cause of reversals are based on the first hypothesis being that certain planetary transits from past points can correlate or cause shifts in the market but trying to determine which transit is responsible can be difficult until after the fact. The second approach would be to apply synodic cycles involving different pairs and project these forward from prominent Tops or Bottoms in an attempt to locate future points but trying to ascertain which pairing and from what point is going to match up with a future date is difficult and would require the addition of other factors to validate the likelihood of the turning point. Or the third process may involve running out several projections involving different pairs including both the inner and outer bodies in 15° steps and looking for points where both the outer and inner bodies move into alignment which would increase the probability of a shift at that point due to the harmonic intervals of two to three pairs culminating around that date , is that one of your approaches, it would be good if you can email me , I believe you already have my address thanks

What cycles do you use?
In the TS software I can take Venus as an example and project it's 225° orbit out to its completion and it breaks it down into 15 or 30° intervals which is handy and easy than calculating it manually and allows me to plot the sequence from various points as I can shift the grid forward and try to match it up with future points so that is one of the processes. Do you also use or study the Venus synodic cycles relative to Earth which measures 584° from inferior conjunction to inferior conjunction. I believe the software also breaks this cycle down into its proportionate parts which can also be projected forward from different points so having these functions are very convenient and reduce the manual workload but we still need to be able to try and determine which cycle we are running up against so a deeper understanding of how the synodic cycles interact and line up with past points requires further work and study

Hi - YES, I've looked at virtually EVERYTHING out there

What is happening and you CANNOT time this is price is MOVING at a DIMENSION HIGHER than 3 dimensions - SOMETIMES 1 planet is at play, other times multiple pairings, this all cause a big mess, as you'll have say Mars and Uranus hit highs and lows and then suddenly disappear, then something else will come into play, then some other pairing - sometimes everything will square up and be clearly visible (trading ranges) but once price trends, everything gets skewed

Planetary lines sometimes play a part - but with them you'll find that one harmonic works, then stops etc, then it flips to another planet - However, MERCURY is pretty could and planetary lines off a low/high can act as excellent trailing stops!

What is happening is the market you are watching, are working out growth and decomposition on a price/time dimension that we cannot see on a 2D chart - Gann created the "squares" to try to get this higher dimensional view and he knew that the angles and lines on those "squares" were planetary etc - the ultimate destination will be whatever GEOMETRICAL SHAPE the market is building, this is why sometimes you get corrections stop DEAD on certain ratios such as 50% or 61.8% or 70.7% - Price is MOVING across various SQAURES that make up the geometrical shapes of which we are unable to see on a 2D price chart

TBH you can apply everything Astro and Astrology and get some hits - getting confluences of planets at the same time zone, can reinforce a CIT, but it only happens at specific points as price constructs the geometrical shape - if a planet is no use to the building of that shape, then it will not be relevant

If you study Ganns "Coffee" letter - you will note he was translating various planets longitude into price levels (planetary lines!) - This letter shows you what Gann was doing

His 1948 Soybeans chart shows you the mars/Jupiter planetary lines and conjunction / Tunnel shows you other things to do with Astrology

I'm not revealing what planets make this up, but they compromise the INNER and 1 OUTER planets that come together every 666 weeks, hence the term "BEAST" cycle, there's Fibonacci Involved, you can see this cycle is pretty accurate, last time it hit on the SP500 it didn't have much impact - because the geometrical shape the SP500 was building still needed to go UP, if the shape build was down, we'd of seen a decent bear market, anyway you can see their effect and you can see there's a prediction/projection some 11 years BEFORE the next event (see the date in the yellow box of the chart - that is when I captured the chart image, but I could have made the screen shot in 2013, 13 years before the next occurrence) - so this shows and proves your confluence thinking



Edit - here's the SP500 in 2013 close up





PS - I emailed you the other day this week

I do plan to take an extended break from FF as the forum isn't my cup of tea - so it might be hit and miss from now on whether I pick up thread conversations etc

I made these charts 2 weeks ago, I used different swings and there are 2 areas of confluence for SP500 (monthly chart)
pay attention to 5850 and 6150 area

The YELLOW Gann angle is still rising at that rate to suit those targets - Once price moves from the YELLOW, it should move to the next rising angle up (GREY)



NOTE - this screenshot is over 2 months old, but price is still following the YELLOW angle UP, with some resistance around the PINK line still

Thought I'd throw a quick thought in here from messing around with arcs again my spare time. Using relative equal highs/lows as pivots seems to increase the reliability of something occurring at the predicted time (assuming the correct ratios etc of course). Don't know if anyone else ever used/looked into these but maybe food for thought.

Hi.
New here and hopefully we can share insights. Went through a lot of material of this kind (numerology, esoteric, astrological, etc), and recently 'discovered' Jenkins. Went through several works (secret science, etc) but looking to expand and looking for:
1. Stock Trading Using Planetary Cycles - The Gann Method Volume 1
2. Stock Trading Using Planetary Cycles - The Gann Method Volume II
3. Gann Astro Vol III - Advanced Astrology - Horoscopes and Trading Methods

and also the software that comes along.
Anyone willing to share this?
If anybody needs something, just ask. After 15 years I have a lot of resources...

Thanks in advance!

Looking at crude oil and was just hoping for some guidance with the TS process as I am just getting acquainted with things. The first step was to select the annual cycle toolbar which shows the annual cycle rolling over Oct 7 then the mid annual cycle rolling over Oct 8 so these two peaks are in close alignment and point down after that date but the fast annual cycle rolls over on Oct 18 so there is a 10 day time difference between these points so we have two dates to work with on this basis. So this is the first process undertaken.

The second step was to open the Astronomy model and systematically work through both Helio and Geo calculations just using the individual planets to begin with and then select the pairs and display them on the chart searching for patterns that align within the 8-10th time window that displays peaks into that zone so through this process I did filter out quite a fair few single and combined planets that were not currently in directional alignment with the market . After distilling it down I did note the planets that appeared to be moving in line with the recent and current price action which I list below so this is the second step and I am wondering how I could build on this process and whether these planetary waves that have been filtered down would be sufficient parameters to construct some type of composite wave or projection line as I am not sure how to use these variables or whether they are correct to create a planetary composite line.

Geo Sun fast peaks Oct 11
Geo Venus slow peaks Oct 2
Geo Venus fast peaks Oct 9
Sun Mars Geo fast peaks Oct 8
Sun Mars Geo very fast peaks Oct 2
Sun Mars Geo 1/5 peaks Oct 8
Sun Jupiter Geo 1/5th peaks Oct 3
Venus Saturn Geo normal peaks Oct 9

So the dataset points towards top either Oct 2-3 or 8-9 so what would be the next step in assembling a forecast and could these parameters be used as a foundation to build on . At the moment I am sampling the demo version which does have the spectrum setting but have not used nor do I understand how to apply this function and would the spectrum module be included in the basic purchase package. All in all a very impressive programme. Thanks for your help