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  • #141
  • Aug 8, 2024 3:50am Aug 8, 2024 3:50am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Trading confidence of course Peter. A confident trader can make thousands a dollars a week whilst a trader with no common sense probably adds to losing trades and uses no stops. Mate it’s just common senses Peterboy
Hi RickM, I think I could really still learn sth. from you. I'm the opposite trader. I perfectonate it already a lot. I never us SL. I appreciate your input here in the forum. The reason why you are profitable is because you use ECN Broker. Beginners mostly don't know about that and have spreads > 1 pip, sometimes even 2 pips. With that you are not able to go for 4, 6 or 8 pips win per trade like you probably.

So I also started the other way around trading. Today I'm able to win trades with max. 2 pip spread on 10 pips TP. That is incredible. I struggle on 2 pips spread going for 10 pips TP but I manage to stay ahead. I think why I'm not yet profitable trading like you is my lag of experience of having 0.3 pips spread and due to that possible to use also trend techniques. I "demo-ed" it few weeks ago and made easy $20 dollars with the smallest lot size in 1,5 hours, making about 120 trades only on GBP/AUD with avg. 0.4 pips spread incl. commission.

So keep up posting here. I know you are geniune, means you really make money in the markets, using trend techniques even in forex markets and be consistent profitable. I would like to achieve that, too one day, turning away from the "dark side" of trading (e.g. counter trend trading) but it will take time. It's a long journey.

Currently I go short on USD/JPY at 146.24 10:45 eouropean time.

And why I'm writing my position is in plus and I sell (that is seldom). Closed at 146.16. after spread. I earned 8 pips on a "real" 13 pips move thanks to my desastrous spread of 2 pips on USD/JPY. That is counter trend, dark side trading. I wait for the "signal" of the big buys and it worked perfectly that time.

Thanks probably to your input RickM here I took a perfect trade (even if it was counter trend).
  • #142
  • Aug 8, 2024 4:53am Aug 8, 2024 4:53am
thats cool jack. and rick is def a person 2 talk to. if not 4 anythin more dan feeeling like youve used ur time well.
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  • #143
  • Aug 8, 2024 4:57am Aug 8, 2024 4:57am
i wonder, do people actually run the idea thru their head about dead knolwledge? do people even know what dead knowledge means? offline conversations are always more intresting n def harder to hide from
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  • #144
  • Edited 9:37am Aug 9, 2024 9:18am | Edited 9:37am
Quoting JackintheBox
{quote} Hi RickM, I think I could really still learn sth. from you. I'm the opposite trader. I perfectonate it already a lot. I never us SL. I appreciate your input here in the forum. The reason why you are profitable is because you use ECN Broker. Beginners mostly don't know about that and have spreads > 1 pip, sometimes even 2 pips. With that you are not able to go for 4, 6 or 8 pips win per trade like you probably. So I also started the other way around trading. Today I'm able to win trades with max. 2 pip spread on 10 pips TP. That is incredible....
Hi Jackinthebox

Sounds like your’e doing great so keep it up.

Can I save a few years of your trading journey by suggesting your’e training yourself to become a fearful trade unable to progress from small trade size to large in the future unless you fix a problem you haven’t yet discovered. While you are presenting winning, by taking small profits you are coaching yourself of being afraid of profits disappearing. Therefore you are fearful when in profit and fearless when in draw down which is exactly the same as the 95% of losers in the trading game.

On Demo, why don’t you try trading with a 10 pip stop loss and place a break even stop when your trade in profit hits 10 pips. You only need one trade in 4 to run and your’e kill it.

Please don’t take these comments as an attack on your trading style, I am just offering a way to get a great traders mindset.

The money is made by sitting in a position for as long as possible while ignoring the discomfort of your brain telling you to close your trade before profits disappears. I took the Sell on AUDUSD as a scalp at 67.80 and put a break even scalp on after a strong move and was aiming for 50 pips. My brain was yelling at me to get out soon after but I ignored the pain and held for 7 days for a nice 5 figure profit.
So a fearless scalp turned into a high profit week trade.
Better than a bunch of small trades on the way down.

Presently I am long on AUDUSD - trying to hold firm while telling by brain to shut up.


Cheers

PS. It’s nothing to do with spread size if you have a good traders mindset. That’s just the cost of being in the trading business and it makes no difference in the long run if you can handle discomfort of being in profit and doing nothing.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #145
  • Aug 9, 2024 6:22pm Aug 9, 2024 6:22pm
Hi Rick,

thanks for the hints. I analyzed a lot of these trades, also letting positions run when in profit. You also can use that on counter trend trading but of course it works less. Most times you get another high/low and your break even gets hit. I try to use a mix technique here on counter trend trading. I sell 80% at my small profit target and let the rest run for a certain aim of Fib level (retrace level). It's working quite good that way - which probably means I should keep more than 20% and not sell anything before that more far away goal is reached.

I will soon return to a trend technique where you have an R:R of 1.2 (without spread) and small profit targets of 4-6 pips. On ECN it is possible to earn money with it, with a "normal" broker it is impossible. I will soon open an account with ECN. It could be that in long run I switch than to trend trading techniques. I also could use here the 80%/20% rule in the beginning and let 20% run. The difference of that technique is you go WITH the trend, not against in and your money and risk management is much more save and you can risk much more than on counter trend trading.

But I need time for that. I got your point letting winners run. I should make more in deep analyze to that part. Most times you have in counter trend trading the same results than letting a position run due to zig zag downmoves (so it makes no really sense to stay in a trade) but on the other hand IF the market reached the bottom the last trade is most times a 30-50 pips winner (where I exit way too early) so that would compensate a lot of missed, small earnings before. So counter trend trading is probably not the best way to let the winners run - but also not a losing strategy. It is probably equal but I have to analyze that in depth.

Thank for reply.
  • #146
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:32am Aug 10, 2024 2:32am
Quoting oochiwaawaa
i wonder, do people actually run the idea thru their head about dead knolwledge? do people even know what dead knowledge means? offline conversations are always more intresting n def harder to hide from
Dead knowledge, referring to what exactly? Try some specifics, but good to see your writing improving in various contextual responses.
  • #147
  • Aug 14, 2024 6:55am Aug 14, 2024 6:55am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Dead knowledge, referring to what exactly? Try some specifics, but good to see your writing improving in various contextual responses.
ever run a treadmill but never looked out the window? for any who have its torture to the mind and da body. people think its !!healthy!! but people folloow n not use da brain given. dead is not always truly dead, it can also just keep person goin in circles. believe they progress but truly only get more of da same. accountability both inside n outside da room youre in. i reckon its a bellylaugh when people scoff at this. if there is 100 parts to da situation n peolpe wanna cancel out say 80 n just pretend they dont exist, that dont make it so. gamblers always have a justification for everythin.

its easy to test for. get a !!trader!! etc to make a list of all da !!parts!! they believe make up the situation. then tell em to cut off one arm n now proclaim its da whole body. like i said a true bellylaugh. to me dead knowledge is lifeless activity that is a box. same concept when a company is dumping waste into ocean to make a profit but !!lives!! in dat same environment. dat dont need !!awareness programs!! only common sense. a different way to see this. people like being !!given!! presents n tradin at present is !!given!! to em. all da bells n whistles//// no batteries or brain power included or required for assembly. wit this to me dead is !!heres everythin you need!! .... but its ur money for use. we ll tell ya whats green or red ..... but its ur money for use. ofc this ll only make sense to people who dont live in da digital world. it might be !!called!! online tradin but its doesnt say anywhere to !!leave ur brain at home or in bed!! a bellylaugh to see people are so experty onlone ehre or whatever bout trading but put em back in da physical world n they do what exactly? have fun
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  • #148
  • Aug 15, 2024 4:24am Aug 15, 2024 4:24am
Quoting oochiwaawaa
{quote} ever run a treadmill but never looked out the window? for any who have its torture to the mind and da body. people think its !!healthy!! but people folloow n not use da brain given. dead is not always truly dead, it can also just keep person goin in circles. believe they progress but truly only get more of da same. accountability both inside n outside da room youre in. i reckon its a bellylaugh when people scoff at this. if there is 100 parts to da situation n peolpe wanna cancel out say 80 n just pretend they dont exist, that dont make...
Mr Oochie, yes running in a room is not as real as running in the forest or along the river for example.
Yes ocean polluters are dumb.

I found the following interesting. TA is useful. Dead knowledge? Hard to prove that in the trading context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtZHR2dsTA
  • #149
  • Aug 15, 2024 6:05am Aug 15, 2024 6:05am
Hi BW,

I read your post, so thanks for the explanation.
Cheers...
  • #150
  • Edited 11:35pm Aug 15, 2024 8:14pm | Edited 11:35pm
Quoting RickM
While you are presenting winning, by taking small profits you are coaching yourself of being afraid of profits disappearing. Therefore you are fearful when in profit and fearless when in draw down which is exactly the same as the 95% of losers in the trading game.
Hi RickM, this is gold that you wrote there.

Trading psychology has it's place in this business. Rick described the fear that we teach ourself. Ridiculous, right?

I have repeated a thousand times to avoid scalping. I'm not against scalping nor think scalping as a poor inferior trading strategy that's not profitable. I stated my stance but have not explained the reason why.

Scalping for small profit brings along this self taught FEAR to your trading. FEARLESS in drawdown(aka managing "scalp" drawdown) is the clear sign of fear.

This FEAR denies you from learning about the larger framework of this market - that's the hidden cost of scalping. That's why scalpers scalp until and unless they acknowledge and grow out of their scalpers FEAR to grow beyond the scalpers box to profit from the larger market swings. Else this large market swings remain mere academic to the scalpers bound by FEAR. Hope this explains and help traders understand the psychology at play based on the trading choice we make whether to scalp or swing trade.

Quoting RickM
I am just offering a way to get a great traders mindset. The money is made by sitting in a position for as long as possible while ignoring the discomfort of your brain telling you to close your trade before profits disappears....So a fearless scalp turned into a high profit week trade. Better than a bunch of small trades on the way down.
Testimony from a great trader.

Cheers
Know what you trade
  • #151
  • Aug 15, 2024 10:02pm Aug 15, 2024 10:02pm
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Mr Oochie, yes running in a room is not as real as running in the forest or along the river for example. Yes ocean polluters are dumb. I found the following interesting. TA is useful. Dead knowledge? Hard to prove that in the trading context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtZHR2dsTA
question - when you buy a hot beverage, do you take a sip straight from the cup or mug without first testing or checking the temperature of the liquid?

if u do do this every time then you are displaying a basic behavior of common sense. that is something thats usable toward markets too. when something is happening within itself becasue of itself, this is a conditional paradox. u need charting software 2 see n follow a !!market!! well most people do anyway. 2 bet the future on a cond paradox is generally insane in the most basic idea of the definition of insane. this is how people today reason out trading. it has nothing to do with money or people or the world or anythig else. HOWEVER its all conditional to the premise of a !!market!!. u following this? so its VERY easy to prove but selective viewing is a curse for people today and this chosen view erodes the facts n reality. can u contact ur broker 2 instruct them to tell u what their liq prov is favoring this week? in detail? can u ask them to show details of the segregated client account/s where UR money sits? or do they blow u off with some BS excuse? TA was never meant to be used for actual trading. anyone with a bit o time to research could learn this. it is an indicator of what the real world shows u n tells u. but im not talkin bout econ news or speeches or whatever. the hardcore realness of currency or whatever you trade. IF a chart is a map, where is the factual map legend? where ARE the details of the factual imprint on that chart of the participation? bottom line people are easily brainwashed. yes its a real thing. has ALWAYS been a real thing. otherwise advertising co's would be nonexistent. so next time ur feelin alittle laaaaazy or easygoin with da tradin n what people say, people arent usually playin da game the games playing them. the facts are there n are clear n obvious.

as a quick sidenote here. to say one uses common sense in real life but not 4 tradin is in itself a paradox. unless ofc one believes everythin on TV is real, that video games are entirely good for you n coca cola is the greatest n most nutritious drink ever invented. have fun
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  • #152
  • Aug 15, 2024 10:20pm Aug 15, 2024 10:20pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi RickM, this is gold that you wrote there. Trading psychology has it's place in this business. Rick described the fear that we teach ourself. Ridiculous, right? I have repeated a thousand times to avoid scalping. I'm not against scalping nor think scalping as a poor trading strategy that's not profitable. I state my stance but have not explained the reason why. Scalping for small profit brings along this self taught FEAR to your trading. FEARLESS in drawdown(aka managing drawdown) is the clear sign of fear. This FEAR denies you from...
ill work backwards here wit this. theyre not a great trader theyre someone on a website saying stuff. the end. the psychology of it is simple enough - know ur place then improve on it. the end. if ur startin as retail then accept ur a nobody with a handful o cash whod better have lots o time free. fear is a predator at any level in the world of money. accept this fully n move on. approach means little with acidic information that is only a sounding board for more acid. again accept this n move on. most people are fools. if they had common sense n used it well, their world n realty would be vastly different. accept this n move onward. as someone with plenty o life experience its easy to know dat online people are devastatingly inaccurate toward real things. so a simpler way to appreciate psychology is = either lie to urself or tell the truth. difference between yrs of trying vs weeks of advancement. scalping n swinging are ranged in exposure so approach dont matter. not in real life it dont. a 5min scalp is done no differently to a 2 week swing. ONLY different in ur head. accept this n move onward. this industry possesses n carries MOUNTAINS o noise. info 4 dis n dat. most is distraction. i scalp every day usually. but i know not to place any trust in da broker (at ANY level) so u must take full responsibility for all ur actions n involvement. do dis n swaps are now 50% cheaper n more profitable.

if person see difference of scalp and swing then not fear, it lack o experience. the rest is collateral ignorance. have fun
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  • #153
  • Aug 16, 2024 2:22am Aug 16, 2024 2:22am
Quoting oochiwaawaa
...as someone with plenty o life experience its easy to know dat online people are devastatingly inaccurate toward real things. so a simpler way to appreciate psychology is = either lie to urself or tell the truth.
Hi ocww, pretty accurate you describe there. To complete it, internet is used to validate the lie to yourself.

Cheers
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  • #154
  • Aug 16, 2024 10:25pm Aug 16, 2024 10:25pm
Quoting oochiwaawaa
{quote} question - when you buy a hot beverage, do you take a sip straight from the cup or mug without first testing or checking the temperature of the liquid? if u do do this every time then you are displaying a basic behavior of common sense. that is something thats usable toward markets too. when something is happening within itself becasue of itself, this is a conditional paradox. u need charting software 2 see n follow a !!market!! well most people do anyway. 2 bet the future on a cond paradox is generally insane in the most basic idea of the...
Thanks for the maturity in responding oochieww, but nothing to learn really from what was creatively conveyed here. Life is one big postoffice. But we can use macd in trading.
  • #155
  • Aug 16, 2024 10:40pm Aug 16, 2024 10:40pm
Quoting oochiwaawaa
{quote}... scalping n swinging are ranged in exposure so approach dont matter. not in real life it dont. a 5min scalp is done no differently to a 2 week swing. ONLY different in ur head. accept this n move onward. this industry possesses n carries MOUNTAINS o noise. info 4 dis n dat. most is distraction. i scalp every day usually. but i know not to place any trust in da broker (at ANY level) so u must take full responsibility for all ur actions n involvement. do dis n swaps are now 50% cheaper n more profitable. if person see difference of scalp...
Because I know you love these emoji thingy's.
Opportunity, knowledge,experience and skill are not timeframes or time restricted mental barriers.
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All the best all.
  • #156
  • Aug 18, 2024 10:56pm Aug 18, 2024 10:56pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi ocww, pretty accurate you describe there. To complete it, internet is used to validate the lie to yourself. Cheers
good point. another funny one is people in real life are basically the same now. they now ARE the internet. ther thought patterns, their speech distinctions, the way they !!process!! info. its no wonder they !!believe!! whats put in front of em. funny thing is, i see sum on these sites who basically gamble !!with real world do-it-this-way!! n then say they pay bills n pay wages with da money. the irony is thats a great trap to put urself in. have no real knowledge of da real world but have a residual attitude of !!i know how da world works!!. people are chokin on their own lies. i still rememeber wen da internet was new. people still had conversartions that meant somethin then. facts wrapped in common sense dont matter now n its time 2 reep da rewards. gotts luv irony.
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  • #157
  • Aug 18, 2024 11:23pm Aug 18, 2024 11:23pm
da truly riveting thing bout !!tradin!! today, the basics have lost all meaning. and if dats true den how the fuck would u know which direction to paddle to reach dry land? if u expect useful knowledge to be just sitting dere waitin 4 u to trip over it ur more lost dan u know.

try this on

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+full+history+of+CFD%27s&oq=the+full+history+of+CFD%27s&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i10i160l2j33i671l7.8110j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.fpmarkets.com/education/trading-tips/how-i-would-learn-cfd-trading-in-2024-if-i-could-start-over/

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da cfd concept is like a pirate ship dats graphed onto a drunk bank robbers ass. so its not bout how long u can get away with tradin it, its bout how much moves in to get you wen ur not lookin. ive traded for yrs now n almost never really !!traded! cfds alone. theyre only a doorstop. i bellylaugh wen i see sum doin elec coin markets eg bitcoin etc. the info dumps around human behavior n other social injectibles n insights etc alone, are worth millions to da right people. n dese tossers !!trade em!!. hahahaha what a joke. talk bout brainless shortsightedness. people are !!wat can i get wat can i get!! like a starvin rabbit. just coz U wouldnt do dat with da info dont mean others wont. somethin to mull over.

so now to the macd use. now ur using a view dats a deriv of a deriv's deriv. a mutant of a mutants' mutant. u dont need a harvard degree to see da game.

my advice. strip out ALL da indicators from ur chart software n learn how money likes to move. u put IN money to USE money to GET money.

ofc if u cant think for urself then this info will mean nothin to you. live n let live n let die.

da next time ur at da doctor, ask em if a half cut fingernail indicates a pending heartattack n see wat dey say. see if da eyebrows raise or they look at ya funny coz ya talkin like a crazy person. hahahaha have fun
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  • #158
  • Aug 19, 2024 12:12am Aug 19, 2024 12:12am
Knowledge is what is capable and always makes you responsible.... whether u want it or not.

heres a question, do u prefer nike or reebok? which one do u think is better?

https://www.google.com/search?q=performance+test+between+name+brand+shoes+and+other&sca_esv=f063ace4ba00ef26&ei=d83CZo6RJ7-d4-EPqtCIgQ4&ved=0ahUKEwjOqLudn4CIAxW_zjgGHSooIuAQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=performance+test+between+name+brand+shoes+and+other&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiM3BlcmZvcm1hbmNlIHRlc3QgYmV0d2VlbiBuYW1lIGJyYW5kIHNob2VzIGFuZCBvdGhlcjIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESJBEUIMJWPQhcAN4AJABAJgBowGgAZsPqgEEMC4xNLgBA8gBAPgBAZgCCaACngbCAg4QABiABBiwAxiGAxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLADGKIEwgIIECEYoAEYwwTCAgoQIRigARjDBBgKmAMAiAYBkAYHkgcDMy42oAftKA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

if ur tradin only relies on da principles on dese sites ur no different to people with a teen fetish for !!brand name!! items.

it is - what is presented. what is offered. what is heavily !!encouraged!! and den the pressure of image n retention.

the way people speak bout a chart is a fanastic insight into their fetishes. if u dont believe me go have a look around.

i reckon its cute wen people operate as if da world is there all for them. its reductio ad adsurdum in full force.

just like people around, ur knowledge of da world n ur common sense is enough to help sniff out a trap. or not.

https://www.google.com/search?q=crops+that+harvest+after+12+months&oq=crops+that+harvest+after+12+months&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.17476j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+most+important+crop+in+the+wold&oq=what+is+the+most+important+crop+in+the+wold&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2.10013j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

whats da point in knowin dese things? exactly. dats for u to decide. look round n ask if reductio ad adsurdum applies to !!tradin!! now. spec billing aint da same as real things being used. prob as usual da oafs round da place who cant see how topics connect will dispute it all. well ya gotta luv da oafs. lots a attitude but little common sense. oh ya got a few degrees or are a hhmmmm !!millionaire!! or sum other pointless gout.

i alway wonder if people know dat sex n money are da 2 most addictive, self addicted drugs in da world. forget ur heroin or whatever. the two paramount self conditioning self reinforcing !!participation items!! in da human world. startin to feel a little less smart right now are we? a little LESS evolved? a little less clever or in control?

WELCOME to dead knowledge in play. have fun
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  • #159
  • Aug 19, 2024 9:56pm Aug 19, 2024 9:56pm
Dead knowledge is dervied from dead thinking and dead beliefs. That must be a truly horrible way to live and operate. But people do it. People think if they are realists or whatever then this means they possess common sense. Such malarky! It means you're hidin. Hoping n prayin. An eye for an eye n every man for emself. So why shouldn't people be treated like animals in the face of their options. Looks to be a inconvenient fact.

here somethin =

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One guy just yesterday commented that at least his losses for this tax year can be offset til the next year n deducted off da profits of next year. well i guess you could if ya trust da tax dept to do the right thing. intresting thing bout tax. usually there aint just black n white. LOTS o grey areas. opportunity for da individual or just a backsum game to catch people cheatin? good idea to think bout it.

heres another one=

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in this shot u have a chart but what is there that brokers dont tell ya show ya or want ya to know? why the lit areas? if ur looking for da answers on these sites forget it. to find out u need real information. how to get that? stop thinking like a loser. think like a sniffer dog. all da yarnin online bout tradin literally has nothin to do with anythin but a narrative. dumbasses follow narratives n !!reckon!! theyve outsmarted da narrative. REAAALLY???

youre operating in a loop dat you didnt start , but youve outsmarted it?! hahahaha oh my gosh hah. how truly conceited n overconfident can one be?

if i rounded up all da !!experienced tradin folk!! off da sites n asked one simple question= "what is the purpose of a chart?" = how many variations of answers do ya get?

heres a simple response = bcoz ur !!tradin!! is hhhmmm "decentralized" (talk about pouring on da political correctness jeez guys) your fight is with those who dont agree with you. they dont agree dat ur worth it, dat ur deserve to win, dat ur good enough to keep doin it. yep ur broker n every level beyond. yes your bank n even da tax people. And no im not talkin conspiracy theory BS, just common sense. to be cynical n merely !!conclude!! this or that bout the !!system!! or life in human society is a bit on da nose, a bit naive n gullible.

i luv this one = !!everyone has an opinion!! .... nope sorry your broker n da levels above dont have ur back on dat one either. n since ur brokers the forefront of you either getting paid or payin someone whos not YOU, id say its a good idea to stop the self pity. but its a good idea to know if ur a human or an animal. see animals have a very short attention span so they dont worry bout tomorrow or tax or profits. they dont think bout if theyre being cheated or conned or used. this is why i LUV IT wen online peple say !!theyre a really great trader!! or !!u really know wats goin on!! or !!ur da king o collectin or bankin profits!!. it says everythin bout their priority thinking.

if ur in ur infancy in tradin, or with usin ur money in da world, ud better stop thinkin inline with win lose draw. an alternative common sense says this= !!catch em out in da lie n inconsistency!! see anywhere talkin bout trend or liq provs or big boys or quarterlies or timeframes or whatever?? No?? strange! this cannot be hidden masked or !!treated!! with hihihi ... divergent actions. pretty pics wont cut it. website talk dont work either.

heres dat shot again=

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now ask wheres da lie or inconsistency? clever dicks are always first out da gate to get run over. ya gotta ask = what is really mine to keep as i see fit without oversight or rulings? NOW it gets a bit harder coz da !!if ya cant beat em den join em!! idea will eat ya alive. both figuratively AND literally given enough time.

!!im just doin my job!! = hows dat tail taste? have fun
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  • #160
  • Aug 19, 2024 10:00pm Aug 19, 2024 10:00pm
save ur opinions for da beer garden

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