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  • #3,041
  • May 8, 2024 5:46pm May 8, 2024 5:46pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} I saw the video and she also pointed out: "remember is that whether you're a long or short you will not be materially gaining or losing when a dividend adjustment is made" Well, i asked to because you somewhere said: {quote} So for a person who has been doing this for 20 years I thought you knew a little more. No matter why IG always shows a gap. So it makes no sense to buy before the close/gap as this will only be offset in the P/L anyway. Nothing but a wash. If you then buy and in the event the gap closes you make a profit like any other...
figure it out yoursell, meanwhile i will keep making money while you spend the next 10yrs looking for something you aint gonna find

Oh, let me know if you do find something over the next 10-20yrs ---- be interesting to see what and how long it takes you
  • #3,042
  • May 8, 2024 5:48pm May 8, 2024 5:48pm
Quoting griffc
{quote} Hopefully it is on it's way, although I will bail at 8352 as I dont want any risk of not closing due to the spread.
How did you make out on the div ?

How many times have traded it so far and you had any losers ?
  • #3,043
  • May 8, 2024 5:59pm May 8, 2024 5:59pm
Quoting T721
{quote} How did you make out on the div ? How many times have traded it so far and you had any losers ?
Well, a short while ago I made the gap close and a little bit more - fully out now.

Makes it into double figure winners with zero losers so far, all based on confidence from back testing.

Next = CAC tomorrow.

Goodnight pal.
T
always learning
  • #3,044
  • May 8, 2024 6:04pm May 8, 2024 6:04pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} ... and in the event the gap closes you make a profit like any other 'Buy Low Sell Higher trade'.
May I suggest doing some back testing on how many times the gap has closed - for whatever reason. I'll leave it at that.

Good luck
always learning
  • #3,045
  • May 8, 2024 6:08pm May 8, 2024 6:08pm
Quoting griffc
{quote} Well, a short while ago I made the gap close and a little bit more - fully out now. Makes it into double figure winners with zero losers so far, all based on confidence from back testing. Next = CAC tomorrow. Goodnight pal. T
  • #3,046
  • May 8, 2024 6:10pm May 8, 2024 6:10pm
Quoting griffc
{quote} May I suggest doing some back testing on how many times the gap has closed - for whatever reason. I'll leave it at that. Good luck
Hard to go back far enough to test on IG as even using 15min candle i can only go back 6-9mnths, but i cant remember any not closing
  • #3,047
  • May 8, 2024 6:15pm May 8, 2024 6:15pm
Quoting T721
{quote} Hard to go back far enough to test on IG as even using 15min candle i can only go back 6-9mnths, but i cant remember any not closing
... well on the 30 minute timescale, needed given the index is update on the half hour, you can get a clean year on IG x all the indexes which gives a reasonable data set to get a confidence level from But yes, I'd prefer longer also
always learning
  • #3,048
  • May 8, 2024 6:17pm May 8, 2024 6:17pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} I saw the video and she also pointed out: "remember is that whether you're a long or short you will not be materially gaining or losing when a dividend adjustment is made" Well, i asked to because you somewhere said: {quote} So for a person who has been doing this for 20 years I thought you knew a little more. No matter why IG always shows a gap. So it makes no sense to buy before the close/gap as this will only be offset in the P/L anyway. Nothing but a wash. If you then buy and in the event the gap closes you make a profit like any other...
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  • #3,049
  • May 8, 2024 6:55pm May 8, 2024 6:55pm
Going back to sleep ... Goodnight all
  • #3,050
  • May 8, 2024 10:06pm May 8, 2024 10:06pm
Quoting T721
{quote} Nice init, gotta love free money. we might as well take it when no-one else wants it
Keerrrching Added +2 on my average to cover overnight interest. Sorted
  • #3,051
  • May 8, 2024 10:08pm May 8, 2024 10:08pm
Quoting griffc
{quote} Well, a short while ago I made the gap close and a little bit more - fully out now. Makes it into double figure winners with zero losers so far, all based on confidence from back testing. Next = CAC tomorrow. Goodnight pal. T
I've had my eye on that too. Although I'm not keen on potentially holding over weekend on it.. we'll see. Good luck!
  • #3,052
  • May 8, 2024 10:09pm May 8, 2024 10:09pm
Quoting T721
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He is a troll, just ignore him or he won't go away. It's like living next to a sewer.
  • #3,053
  • May 8, 2024 11:04pm May 8, 2024 11:04pm
Quoting Fagin
{quote} He is a troll, just ignore him or he won't go away. It's like living next to a sewer.
I'm pretty sure I had runnings with him/hermyself, if he/she starts, will just ban from posting ...simples...
  • #3,054
  • May 8, 2024 11:14pm May 8, 2024 11:14pm
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} I'm pretty sure I had runnings with him/hermyself, if he/she starts, will just ban from posting ...simples...
Am not gonna waste time on him now, not sure if he is thick asfuck or has some kinda mental problem
  • #3,055
  • May 8, 2024 11:22pm May 8, 2024 11:22pm
he was also hanging around on billy's thread, spreading negative energy.

we showed him all sorts of things, he still wasn't satisfied like a stubborn child.

but unfortunately billy was an english do-gooder who didn't have the heart to ban him.

he is simply disrespectful.
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #3,056
  • May 8, 2024 11:25pm May 8, 2024 11:25pm
Quoting birdland
he was also hanging around on billy's thread, spreading negative energy. we showed him all sorts of things, he still wasn't satisfied like a stubborn child. but unfortunately billy was an english do-gooder who didn't have the heart to ban him. he is simply disrespectful.
he is simply disrespectful

you are too polite pal, he is an absolute Tosser n Loser
  • #3,057
  • May 9, 2024 3:16am May 9, 2024 3:16am
Quoting birdland
he was also hanging around on billy's thread, spreading negative energy. we showed him all sorts of things, he still wasn't satisfied like a stubborn child. but unfortunately billy was an english do-gooder who didn't have the heart to ban him. he is simply disrespectful.
Where exactly have I been disrespectful? I asked some factual questions, thats all. If you write in my topic and offer help, then you also have to tolerate critical counter questions. I'm not the one with hostility. "Negative energy"- What a joke. You don't even seem to know what negative energy is. I just don't applaud everything that is presented to me as gold (without any facts at all) and press the like buttons on every post some anonymous internet person told me something is an 'ATM", is that your problem?

Feel free to carry on with your drama. You don't seem to have anything else to do. I'm looking for honest help, if I'm looking for clowns I'll go to the circus!

The trade (at least with IG) worked out btw. Stop was placed at -20 Points (yeah i am not the one that only likes to show the profit side) THANK YOU, OH THANK YOU, OMG - OMG - OMG, THANK YOU!!! Made +2874%, what an ATM!!! WOW, WOW! Are you happy now?

Are those enough positive vibes for you?

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  • #3,058
  • May 9, 2024 3:17am May 9, 2024 3:17am
Quoting T721
{quote} he is simply disrespectful you are too polite pal, he is an absolute Tosser n Loser
Google mal, "Große Fresse, nichts dahinter"!
  • #3,059
  • May 9, 2024 3:22am May 9, 2024 3:22am
Quoting griffc
{quote} May I suggest doing some back testing on how many times the gap has closed - for whatever reason. I'll leave it at that. Good luck
I will. But that doesn't make my statement any less wrong. Am I correct that the GAP with other brokers only occurs at the end of the day?
  • #3,060
  • May 9, 2024 3:34am May 9, 2024 3:34am
Quoting birdland
he was also hanging around on billy's thread, spreading negative energy. we showed him all sorts of things, he still wasn't satisfied like a stubborn child. but unfortunately billy was an english do-gooder who didn't have the heart to ban him. he is simply disrespectful.
Not true either. The only thing Billy did was show his cherry picked winners (like the whole forum here seems to be about) and when you asked him a serious question about how he managed his risk he became silent or insulted. Big ego, few facts.


If you're all so incompetent when it comes to criticism, why don't you meet in a private chat room where you can celebrate each other all day? I can only recommend that people who don't believe me go through my posts themselves and they will quickly see who the real "tossers" are here, Now stfu?
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