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  • #1,901
  • Apr 30, 2024 11:54am Apr 30, 2024 11:54am
I read PENTAGONAL TIME CYCLE....it would take 72 hour days to read everything I wanted....:) in the image you write about the cycle at around 17 years...do you mean the cycle of the lunar node? (18.6) (LOUISE MCWHIRTER))
  • #1,902
  • Apr 30, 2024 12:43pm Apr 30, 2024 12:43pm
Quoting Thtpro
I have DJIA CSV to 1900 Note this is UK DATE format DD/MM/YYYY {file}
sorry, I forgot that with METASTOCK I can convert to TXT, not csv
  • #1,903
  • Apr 30, 2024 1:25pm Apr 30, 2024 1:25pm
Quoting carbonmimeti
Hello Thtpro and subbu, here's what you asked for...you can see DJ and Gold in semilogarithmic scale {image} {image} {file}
Thank you so much carbonmimeti & Thtpro
  • #1,904
  • Edited 1:27am May 1, 2024 1:10am | Edited 1:27am
Quoting subbu
{quote} Thank you so much carbonmimeti & Thtpro
I haven't read TTTA yet but I've read 45 years...it would be interesting to analyze some dates together, you from your point of view and I from mine and I'll immediately explain why: many years ago on an Italian forum a trader said and DEMONSTRATED of having discovered a part of the law of vibration (we were in 2007). Unfortunately I discovered this 3D late and when I realized the importance of this, I created a word sheet with all the images that this trader had put on the forum (now a some have been deleted). One in particular struck me and now I'll post it: he called it the SWING and in fact if you calculate the indicated swings MATHEMATICALLY, you will discover a very important indication.... the years go from 1914 to 1924. This same relationship was also highlighted when this trader sold his house to buy physical gold in 2005. Then he disappeared from circulation and reappeared to predict the collapse of 2008 with the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. He also said that his latest studies were directed towards the ASTROLABE. Then he disappeared forever... I don't know if he died..... but his posts gave me new energy for the research!!

I know that this is the 3D dedicated to jenkins but since we were talking about DJs since 1900....I thought it best to let you participate in the SWING
the writings you see in Italian are his originals... they are reading notes taken directly from the book

I also add his gold chart with his notes
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  • #1,905
  • May 1, 2024 2:08am May 1, 2024 2:08am
Quoting carbonmimeti
I read PENTAGONAL TIME CYCLE....it would take 72 hour days to read everything I wanted....:) in the image you write about the cycle at around 17 years...do you mean the cycle of the lunar node? (18.6) (LOUISE MCWHIRTER))
Hi - No the URANUS 72 deg cycle - averages 17/18 years but its really 16-19 years depending on the speed its at in its cycle

Those lines on the chart are "best placed" NOT 100% accurate, as I just placed them there on that software for a VISUAL of the cycle

If you use the actual 72 degs of Uranus, you will find a better fit - then other cycles Cowan details come into play

The Uranus 72 deg cycle IS the DRIVING force, but other cycles can time the start / end dates much much better
  • #1,906
  • May 1, 2024 3:08am May 1, 2024 3:08am
Quoting carbonmimeti
{quote} I haven't read TTTA yet but I've read 45 years...it would be interesting to analyze some dates together, you from your point of view and I from mine and I'll immediately explain why: many years ago on an Italian forum a trader said and DEMONSTRATED of having discovered a part of the law of vibration (we were in 2007). Unfortunately I discovered this 3D late and when I realized the importance of this, I created a word sheet with all the images that this trader had put on the forum (now a some have been deleted). One in particular struck me...
I read Tunnel back in the mid 2010's - remembering Gann wrote it in 1927 - he mentions a 100 year cycle of famine, inflation and plagues/flu's, he was talking of the years 1919/1920 ish and 100 years later!

I've not managed to replicate what Gann did and I've sat down and worked through his campaigns - If Gann had an Astrology knowledge of 100, then mine is around the 10 mark

If you get Cowan's works, he analysed price and time swings in terms of Pythag Theorem and the succession of values (not everyone, but enough) were related to the SQUARE, CUBE and Sq Rt 5 and he "built" an ever expanding CUBE on the DJIA based off those mathematical values

I look at the LOV as planetary nodes - If you start the Uranus cycle 72 degs from 12/12/1914 you will have the big cycle - It should hit Sept 1998, Dec 2016 and March 2034 - this is the same basis as SOUND which operates in the radio as Gann states
  • #1,907
  • May 1, 2024 7:07am May 1, 2024 7:07am
Quoting carbonmimeti
{quote} I haven't read TTTA yet but I've read 45 years...it would be interesting to analyze some dates together, you from your point of view and I from mine and I'll immediately explain why: many years ago on an Italian forum a trader said and DEMONSTRATED of having discovered a part of the law of vibration (we were in 2007). Unfortunately I discovered this 3D late and when I realized the importance of this, I created a word sheet with all the images that this trader had put on the forum (now a some have been deleted). One in particular struck me...
I've read TTTA some years ago and almost gave up on it... lol. Thought I'll try again with some data for reference. Yes it'll be interesting to work on the dates together but I'm going to go thru this very slowly this time. Hope to find some practically useful knowledge. Personally, geometric trading seems to be a lot more simpler and workable for my day trading.
  • #1,908
  • May 1, 2024 7:14am May 1, 2024 7:14am
George Bayer novel is a bit more straight-forward
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  • #1,909
  • May 1, 2024 1:51pm May 1, 2024 1:51pm
Good morning everyone, I'm new to Jenkis techniques, to start on page 1 are the books to read in the correct order or is there some specification to start with?
ps: I started trading about two years ago
  • #1,910
  • May 1, 2024 10:53pm May 1, 2024 10:53pm
Quoting Thtpro
{quote} I read Tunnel back in the mid 2010's - remembering Gann wrote it in 1927 - he mentions a 100 year cycle of famine, inflation and plagues/flu's, he was talking of the years 1919/1920 ish and 100 years later! I've not managed to replicate what Gann did and I've sat down and worked through his campaigns - If Gann had an Astrology knowledge of 100, then mine is around the 10 mark If you get Cowan's works, he analysed price and time swings in terms of Pythag Theorem and the succession of values (not everyone, but enough) were related to the SQUARE,...
Ok thanks for the ideas... the research continues...
  • #1,911
  • May 1, 2024 11:50pm May 1, 2024 11:50pm
Quoting Balti90
Good morning everyone, I'm new to Jenkis techniques, to start on page 1 are the books to read in the correct order or is there some specification to start with? ps: I started trading about two years ago
I recommend Jenkin's "The Secret Science Of The Stock Market". Everything else expands from there.
  • #1,912
  • May 2, 2024 1:42am May 2, 2024 1:42am
Quoting Balti90
Good morning everyone, I'm new to Jenkis techniques, to start on page 1 are the books to read in the correct order or is there some specification to start with? ps: I started trading about two years ago
everyone could tell you a different thing: if you like the star start from Stock Trading Using Planetary Cycles...if you like geometry start from Square The Range Trading System and THE SECRET ANGLE METHOD...if you are just starting out I agree with SUBBU , begins with The Secret Science of the Stock Market

http://www.stockcyclesforecast.com/Books.html
  • #1,913
  • May 2, 2024 2:04am May 2, 2024 2:04am
Quoting Balti90
Good morning everyone, I'm new to Jenkis techniques, to start on page 1 are the books to read in the correct order or is there some specification to start with? ps: I started trading about two years ago
Hi Balti - Just read as much as you can - I would also recommend anything to do with any author who's written about CYCLES - Hurst, Dewey etc

Because its the cycle that starts/ends things - Parisboy on this site has a devoted page to Cycles, Envelopes etc which he's done a great job with, which expands on Hursts cycle work and use of centered/displaced moving averages

Just remember Jenkins does not reveal perfection in his books - sometimes you'll see it in action in the markets and then other times you'll not be able to apply it successfully
  • #1,914
  • Edited 2:26am May 2, 2024 2:10am | Edited 2:26am
Quoting carbonmimeti
{quote} sorry, I forgot that with METASTOCK I can convert to TXT, not csv
No worries - I found it on my system on a different gold contract option i have on my software
  • #1,915
  • Edited 7:54am May 2, 2024 5:26am | Edited 7:54am
Here's a practical use of Jenkins

Remember markets are DYNAMIC and not static, which means that they [price action] is twisting and turning on higher dimensions than we are able to see - this is WHY nothing works all the time, as it spins in and out of our field of view (This is also why CYCLES at times are bang on and then they "disappear" from view, only to return at a later date) - SO, remember, this method will NOT work all the time

The chart is the SP500 (I do trade forex, its just my passion is stocks) - DAILY chart up to end of last week

To START with turn the chart to CALENDAR DAYS

Then Mark out the planetary cycle days on the charts with a dot or line (not shown on my chart)

Then ADD 360 points on to the LOW price and draw a horizontal line at that level

Now Run a Trendline from the LOW up through each planets cycle date line that hits the 360 price level = Those are your planetary lines

I've colour coded them as shown on the chart

On the chart:

  1. The colour coded UP/DOWN angles are the planetary trendlines
  2. You can copy them and move around as I've done with the PINK mercury line and the BLUE Venus line
  3. I then ran a normal Gann angle series from the 2020 low to the 2022 high (BRIGHT BLUE lines) - this obviously splits the Mercury angle into Gann angles - you can do the same on the other planetary lines - Although hard to see the original MERCURY PINK line runs right from 2020 low to the 2022 high
  4. Notice the SQUARE OUT, you can't get better than that


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Also if you don't think Planets affect price do a google for the HELIOCENTRIC CONJUNCTION date of SATURN/JUPITER for 2020 and then see the reaction of price in the days around that date - for a big cycle of 20 years a few days lee-way have to be allowed of the exact date

To calc the DOWN angles you deduct 360 points off the Jan 2022 HIGH price, move across the number of cal days for the planet and draw a declining trendline through that intersection point at the price less 360 level
  • #1,916
  • May 2, 2024 7:47am May 2, 2024 7:47am
thank you all
  • #1,917
  • May 2, 2024 11:07am May 2, 2024 11:07am
Quoting Thtpro
Here's a practical use of Jenkins Remember markets are DYNAMIC and not static, which means that they [price action] is twisting and turning on higher dimensions than we are able to see - this is WHY nothing works all the time, as it spins in and out of our field of view (This is also why CYCLES at times are bang on and then they "disappear" from view, only to return at a later date) - SO, remember, this method will NOT work all the time The chart is the SP500 (I do trade forex, its just my passion is stocks) - DAILY chart up to end of last week...
Thanks for sharing THT. This is excellent stuff...
  • #1,918
  • May 8, 2024 12:20am May 8, 2024 12:20am
from post 1884 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...chings?page=95 ....VESICA PISCES at work (vesica built with my method)
now, from the initial AB pulse, I doubled the channel drawing CD
without the use of VESICA I would not have been able to draw these trendlines much in advance of the price movements
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  • #1,919
  • May 9, 2024 9:56am May 9, 2024 9:56am
always the same graph....today the BOE decided to leave rates unchanged...what happened? GBPUSD 1H fell to touch the Pitchfork low of B and then up again.
I added a second circle centered on the second lowest top and the minimum stopped there
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  • #1,920
  • May 14, 2024 1:07pm May 14, 2024 1:07pm
I read 2 books by Jenkins, I understood his definition of vector, but I didn't find how he chooses swings, is there some kind of rule? I post this graph to better understand my question, for the definition of swings I normally use gann bar counting (up bar down bar, inside bar outside bar), now in my graph which of the two lines is to be taken into consideration for Jenkins?
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