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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Jan 1, 2026 4:41pm Feb 11, 2024 11:21am | Edited Jan 1, 2026 4:41pm
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1083909-confluence-trading-method?

Above thread is the actual method that I wanted to grasp from long time so will be active on there only ...
Don't Predict Just React..
  • #2
  • Feb 12, 2024 5:33am Feb 12, 2024 5:33am
Pre NYC session trade ...
55pips
Reason for trade ... H4 Support and M1 ABC (Engulfing confirmation ) ...
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  • #3
  • Feb 14, 2024 5:05pm Feb 14, 2024 5:05pm
these kids all learn from BYSTRA on youtube, make sure you learn from original creator, but she deleted all her youtube videos for some reason but some got reuploaded
  • #4
  • Feb 16, 2024 2:36am Feb 16, 2024 2:36am
Quoting NateBeruk
these kids all learn from BYSTRA on youtube, make sure you learn from original creator, but she deleted all her youtube videos for some reason but some got reuploaded
sorry to say .. you have some miss information in your mind about MSnR and engulfing ... Bastra have nothing to do with this concept ...
Don't Predict Just React..
  • #5
  • Feb 16, 2024 3:19am Feb 16, 2024 3:19am
Quoting Nbr42
{quote} sorry to say .. you have some miss information in your mind about MSnR and engulfing ... Bastra have nothing to do with this concept ...
been watching AKFX videos lately before finding your thread here in FF, the method is promissing it complements AKFX SNR levels and story lines (direction bias) with engulfig methods for level zone refinement and also it provides rules for pa reaction entries, in addition it provides rules for take profits and counter trends trades at h1/m30 road blocks.

i will be backtesting this....
  • #6
  • Feb 16, 2024 7:59pm Feb 16, 2024 7:59pm
Quoting Nbr42
{quote} sorry to say .. you have some miss information in your mind about MSnR and engulfing ... Bastra have nothing to do with this concept ...
it is you who are misinformed, im from malaysia, there's no such thing as malaysian SnR , SnR is SnR , these scammers pushing MSnR nonsense are not even malaysian to begin with lol
  • #7
  • Feb 16, 2024 8:13pm Feb 16, 2024 8:13pm
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} it is you who are misinformed, im from malaysia, there's no such thing as malaysian SnR , SnR is SnR , these scammers pushing MSnR nonsense are not even malaysian to begin with lol
agree support resistance+supply demand+market context nothing new, no new secrets, the simple things work best in trading. but to sell a course you need to sound complicated and employ fancy terminology .
still I liked this method it tries to make trades at important pivot points (htf snr + snd around snr) and attempts to decide on the general direction of market. at least they are not claiming the decoded the algo of the market like the ICT or other so called SMC scammers.
  • #8
  • Feb 16, 2024 9:05pm Feb 16, 2024 9:05pm
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} it is you who are misinformed, im from malaysia, there's no such thing as malaysian SnR , SnR is SnR , these scammers pushing MSnR nonsense are not even malaysian to begin with lol
why do you come to other's thread to negate it?
this is definitely not traits of a successful trader.
if one is successful, he will not put others down while they are still trying to navigate their own style of trading.
you had been through that already and should know yourself.

you do not have to act as if you know it all. by the way there is not a single shred of evidence on that.
you do not know them by person so it's easy to be a keyboard warrior.
instead you would have been in a discussion to contribute.
it's their thread, it's their trading system, if you have nothing good to say, just keep out of it. but it seemed that it is too difficult for you even to this simple task.

from your more than 3 years with FF, you mentioned that you tested hundreds of time but did not even post a chart. zero nothing empty.
what does that say about you, are you even qualified to comment.
calling this thread a scam, calling others kids, but do not even know that you are in the dark, acting like a spoiled overgrown kid yourself.
hey man, you are exposing yourself to the public what kind of person you are.
no need to say much, got eyes can see lah.
a tree that does not bear fruits, should be cut down.

what does the naming got to do with trading?
does not matter whether it is supply demand, order block, engulfing and what not.
once your eyes got used to seeing the set up, names do not matter at all.
only results and money in the banks matter.
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #9
  • Feb 16, 2024 9:17pm Feb 16, 2024 9:17pm
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} why do you come to other's thread to negate it? this is definitely not traits of a successful trader. if one is successful, he will not put others down while they are still trying to navigate their own style of trading. you had been through that already and should know yourself. you do not have to act as if you know it all. by the way there is not a single shred of evidence on that. you do not know them by person so it's easy to be a keyboard warrior. instead you would have been in a discussion to contribute. it's their thread, it's their...
I like so much your last paragraph
  • #10
  • Edited 10:14pm Feb 16, 2024 9:29pm | Edited 10:14pm
Quoting benadil
{quote} I like so much your last paragraph
i know that he will come back with vengeance.
if i even respond to him, it is all just a waste of time if he does not come out of his cocoon.
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  • #11
  • Edited 9:59pm Feb 16, 2024 9:39pm | Edited 9:59pm
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} i know that he will come back with vengeance. if i even respond to him, it is all just a wasting of time if he does not come out of his cocoon.
I really benefited from Malaysian traders sapari, henzo,AKFX,king zulfan..., but traders need to put the work to adopt and adapt their trading style to become profitable, nothing wrong with those trading techniques, it depends on the experience of the trader including one's money management, discipline, daily routine, psychology....

the trading concepts are similar

false breakout you can call them test reject according to auction market theory, you can use terms such as stop hunts, liquidity grabs, buy side sell side...
supply demand you can call them order blocks single prints decision points flag limits ftrs engulfing candles low high volume nodes....
previous broken support can become future resistance
ignored supply can become demand you can call these failed engulfing zones,inversion fair value gaps, breaker block...
kill zones around market opens and closes are very old concepts ...
market swing structure HH LL... follow the trend, ABC movements
market range structure sell high buy low trade false breakouts and avoid the middle of the range
reversal setups head and shoulders QM, diamond , 3 pushes , wedges....
  • #12
  • Feb 16, 2024 11:47pm Feb 16, 2024 11:47pm
Quoting benadil
{quote} agree support resistance+supply demand+market context nothing new, no new secrets, the simple things work best in trading. but to sell a course you need to sound complicated and employ fancy terminology . still I liked this method it tries to make trades at important pivot points (htf snr + snd around snr) and attempts to decide on the general direction of market. at least they are not claiming the decoded the algo of the market like the ICT or other so called SMC scammers.
Quoting benadil
{quote} I really benefited from Malaysian traders sapari, henzo,AKFX,king zulfan...,
akfx is not a malaysian, he's one of the msnr scammers i'm talking about. There's one algerian guy on tradingnut interview said malaysian snr/snd is way more profitable than SMC/ICT , i laughed because SMC/orderblock is basically just a rebranded supply and demand trading , and malaysian snd/snr is just a regular snd/snr . I swear in the next 5-10 years people will come up with another name for snd. And of course that algerian guy is already selling mentorship

You see mansor sapari is the father of "Malaysian" Supply and Demand but he himself learn the stuffs from ifmyante from Read the market. Ifymyante sell course for 25K USD, can you believe that. So technically it's not even malaysian, it should be called Irish SnD instead. Is Mansor sapari even profitable? i have no idea, but i know he and hanzo shadowcodes(his student) are making more money from affliate links and webinars than trading. Mansor Sapari teach a lot of advanced setups and concepts not available in english videos but he teach in malay and not that fluent in english, and since 3-4 years ago i see a lot of attempts by foreigners trying to extract information from mansor sapari and hanzo shadowcodes, not to learn to trade but to sell mentorship . The storyline thing is also from Mansor Sapari student (bystra) but she mysteriously disappeared and deleted all her youtube videos.
  • #13
  • Feb 16, 2024 11:53pm Feb 16, 2024 11:53pm
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} why do you come to other's thread to negate it? this is definitely not traits of a successful trader. if one is successful, he will not put others down while they are still trying to navigate their own style of trading. you had been through that already and should know yourself. you do not have to act as if you know it all. by the way there is not a single shred of evidence on that. you do not know them by person so it's easy to be a keyboard warrior. instead you would have been in a discussion to contribute. it's their thread, it's their...
Just to be clear i'm not attacking OP here, but akfx and the likes of him. I see you draw SnD zones in forum and already see yourself as somekind of
enlightened sifu? please i'm here to educate about the history and real truth of "malaysian" SNR so people don't get scammed. And also these fake mentors only teach very basic setups and nothing like mansor sapari teach
  • #14
  • Feb 17, 2024 12:26am Feb 17, 2024 12:26am
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} Just to be clear i'm not attacking OP here, but akfx and the likes of him. I see you draw SnD zones in forum and already see yourself as somekind of enlightened sifu? please i'm here to educate about the history and real truth of "malaysian" SNR so people don't get scammed. And also these fake mentors only teach very basic setups and nothing like mansor sapari teach
then you show hand.
say so on set straight away. why go one big circle and say now.
and flustered the OP.
"enlightened sifu" what is that? funny that it came out from you. i am unknown.
talk is cheap. so carry on with your education. we are all here to learn.
post a few charts here.
what is the real truth? is there such a thing in this world?
when something is being taught to 10 traders and only 2 traders can "get it"
that does not mean that the other 8 can condemn it as bad.
much works need to be done.
do i take action to apply it in real time consistently.
and i do not mean only a couple of months.
instead they should each ask themselves do i have enough experience to understand it?
maybe when they come back 3 years later and learn, there will be new perspective which they never seen before.
but first and foremost be aware and conscious of the tone that one is using here.

you mentioned Mansor Sapari.
talk to Pat Chiko, he will give his opinion.
at least Pat Chiko consistently show his trades here.
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #15
  • Feb 17, 2024 12:36am Feb 17, 2024 12:36am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} then you show hand. say so on set straight away. why go one big circle and say now. "enlightened sifu" what is that? funny that it came out from you. i am unknown. talk is cheap. so carry on with your education. we are all here to learn. post a few charts here. what is the real truth? is there such a thing in this world? when something is being taught to 10 traders and only 2 traders can "get it" that does not mean that the other 8 can condemn it as bad. much works need to be done. do i take action to apply it in real time consistently....
I don't admire him because he's a hindsight trader just like all the rest of them
  • #16
  • Feb 17, 2024 12:39am Feb 17, 2024 12:39am
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} I don't admire him because he's a hindsight trader just like all the rest of them
good.
we can stop here.
let the OP carry on.
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #17
  • Feb 17, 2024 12:57am Feb 17, 2024 12:57am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} good. we can stop here. let the OP carry on.
no you stop and move on, go back to your thread and draw box on candles, you think you're smart because you start a thread on forexfactory? I'm an early student of 'malaysian' snr, i have more to add on and discuss
  • #18
  • Edited 1:13am Feb 17, 2024 1:00am | Edited 1:13am
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} no you stop and move on, go back to your thread and draw box on candles, you think you're smart because you start a thread on forexfactory? I'm an early student of 'malaysian' snr, i have more to add on and discuss
you sure have a lot of misconstrued assumptions you made on others.
why are you so bitter?
turn back, turn back before it is too late and fall into the dark pit.

drawing SnD zones = somekind of enlightened sifu
start a thread in FF = smart.
so eat your own words, start your own thread and show everyone that you are also "smart".

you have more to add on and discuss.
i will watch your tone.
then i go wherever you go, if necessary.
the fun begins ........
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #19
  • Edited 4:28am Feb 18, 2024 4:17am | Edited 4:28am
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} {quote} akfx is not a malaysian, he's one of the msnr scammers i'm talking about. There's one algerian guy on tradingnut interview said malaysian snr/snd is way more profitable than SMC/ICT , i laughed because SMC/orderblock is basically just a rebranded supply and demand trading , and malaysian snd/snr is just a regular snd/snr . I swear in the next 5-10 years people will come up with another name for snd. And of course that algerian guy is already selling mentorship You see mansor sapari is the father of...
Ifmyante learned from RED then he adapted his style of trading mansor learned from IF then he adapted his style of trading ICT RED took SND from Sam Seiden and adapted their style of trading ICT then added some confluence such as time zones, fake brekouts (turtle soups as described by linda raschke in her book in the 90s), before sam seiden market profile was present, I don't call these people scammers but they adapted their trading style accordingly, what matters is take what style you like and see whatever works for you. so they gave working methods and yes they are marketers at the same time that's why they use their own terminologies to give the impression they teach new secrets, the holy grail doesn't exist , but studying their style is worthwhile.
  • #20
  • Edited 3:43pm Feb 18, 2024 2:12pm | Edited 3:43pm
https://t.me/SnRtradings

In this channel, on files, at the bottom of the list you can find the videos.
They are very professional.
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