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  • #13,701
  • Dec 5, 2023 1:29pm Dec 5, 2023 1:29pm
hi every one
it seems dow love it
but i have quastion -- whats the meaning of AC-Mc-Ic-DS-II-III-V-VIII
thanks for help
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  • #13,702
  • Dec 6, 2023 12:50am Dec 6, 2023 12:50am
Hi JN and everyone . Just wanted to start at a basic level with TS and understand the process of working through a market. I'm considering purchasing it but may look at a trial to begin with as I am unaccustomed to this program and its applications. Usually my first approach is to look back at past Cycles and try to identify which one we are most likely running against . It would be good to learn some basic TS methods to integrate into the analysis. As s an example lets say I am able to locate a potential turning point that has a very strong correlation against past campaigns. The date might be 13-14th Dec as a potential pullback point and when I line this da6ye against
past campaigns there is a strong correlation so if I was using TS what would be the approach to try and determine if trend is up from that point. Usually I would study the upcoming aspects either Helio or Geo or both . So lets say we have Venus square Mars active for three days then we have another two aspects occurring over a six day period. So would you plug the three aspects into a search and generate a statistical percentage saying 80% of the time the market was up under these conditions but as we lnow these same aspects can occur at any point within the trend and you can have a series of bearish aspects involving the inner planets and the yrend will remain up. Thanks
  • #13,703
  • Dec 6, 2023 1:15am Dec 6, 2023 1:15am
Also if you have three or four closely corresponding patterns from the past would you use TS to study the Declination of the Moon from each one of those periods and see if there is a similarity between positions Nth or Sth and would you also apply this calculation for say Merc and Venus to see if their position is in Nth or Sth latitude at the time of the swing under observation to yry to ascertain if there are similar factors linking both swings together thanks.
  • #13,704
  • Dec 6, 2023 7:32am Dec 6, 2023 7:32am
Hello all,

We have a formation Trapeze - Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter. Can anyone plot on TS.

Thank you!
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  • #13,705
  • Dec 8, 2023 4:10pm Dec 8, 2023 4:10pm
End of the week recap, from post 13,700, December 4: 174 pips for the week.
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  • #13,706
  • Dec 8, 2023 9:22pm Dec 8, 2023 9:22pm
Soybean D1, cyclical analysis, 1-year forecast backtesting.
2023
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2024. The same cycle(s)
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  • #13,707
  • Dec 9, 2023 3:50am Dec 9, 2023 3:50am
Just wondering how you could do this type of look back. As an example lets say we have a projected turndate of 14-15 Dec and on that day there are say two prominent aspects Sun trine Nth Node. In astrolog I can isolate those two Planets and rin them back manually and note the position of trend on those dates . But if there was a configuration involving three planets does your TS program allow you to input three planets and locate past dates when those three bodies were in the same position. Not sure if astrolog can do this thanks
  • #13,708
  • Dec 9, 2023 8:45am Dec 9, 2023 8:45am
Quoting grant1440
Just wondering how you could do this type of look back. As an example lets say we have a projected turndate of 14-15 Dec and on that day there are say two prominent aspects Sun trine Nth Node. In astrolog I can isolate those two Planets and rin them back manually and note the position of trend on those dates . But if there was a configuration involving three planets does your TS program allow you to input three planets and locate past dates when those three bodies were in the same position. Not sure if astrolog can do this thanks
Yes, TS can do that. Astrolog doesnt have the ability to generate a list of dates when certain aspects occur.....
  • #13,709
  • Dec 9, 2023 8:50am Dec 9, 2023 8:50am
Quoting grant1440
Also if you have three or four closely corresponding patterns from the past would you use TS to study the Declination of the Moon from each one of those periods and see if there is a similarity between positions Nth or Sth and would you also apply this calculation for say Merc and Venus to see if their position is in Nth or Sth latitude at the time of the swing under observation to yry to ascertain if there are similar factors linking both swings together thanks.
Yes, TS is an excellent research tool in that way. You determine the criteria and TS puts a vertical line on the chart at each occurence. It can also to a statistical analysis for percent change in market up or down, by days on, before and after the occurence. Here are lots of tutorials on the possibilities of the Astronomy Module https://www.timingsolution.com/Doc/level_1/5.htm Also there are many many video tutorials on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@timingsolutionsupport180
  • #13,710
  • Dec 9, 2023 9:15pm Dec 9, 2023 9:15pm
Outlook for next week... looks like an up week is in store...
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  • #13,711
  • Dec 10, 2023 5:43am Dec 10, 2023 5:43am
Quoting bhtosun
Hi again, For next week, it looks like all the way down the whole week, we will see. As always, it needs to be verified by Monday at least. Then, when verified, we need to run the spectrum for the cycle as well. P.S.: The second line is the smoothed version of the first one. I wish you a lot of pips this week. Regards, Barbaros {image} {image}
Hey All,
The overall forecast made +118 pips in total
To be on the safe side i did open position after it is verified by monday data and i closed all positions just before the news on friday. So I made +63 pips.

Cheers,
Barbaros
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  • #13,712
  • Dec 10, 2023 5:47am Dec 10, 2023 5:47am
Hey all,
According to my forecast for EURUSD, looks upward starting from mid monday to late thursday. Then a little bit pullback and up again till weekend.

Trade safe and happy pips everyone!

Cheers,

Barbaros
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  • #13,713
  • Dec 11, 2023 12:26am Dec 11, 2023 12:26am
Has anyone considered that these or certain other practices go against the teaching of The Bible. I have been studying this type of work for some time but have recently been reading The Bible which mentions divination and in a few verses astrology so after reading through the scriptures I have become a little conflicted and uneasy about the path that I have been on for long years. I guess there is a fine line between the study of astronomy and astrology and would like to think that I am basing most of my work on the former. My approach in line with Ganns philosophy is to acknowledge God the Creator but we are using the celestial motions of the Planets as a forecasting tool which is in line with the divination of the future which is frowned upon in the Bible. Astronomers use immutable Laws to predict certain cosmic events such as eclipses and planetary conjunctions which have most likely been used since the dawn of time. Plotting and studying the motions of the planets would fall under the category of astronomy but assigning meaning to the various points on the zodiac is a grey area and would most likely fall into the category of the later. Obviously we are not worshipping the heavenly bodies or assigning any point of adoration against them as was most likely practiced in past pagan times ut looking at their positions from a scientific standpoint so is this still acceptable within scripture. Also erecting Company horoscopes seems to fall under the category of divination as well which I have used quite often but after reading through God's word this also looks an evil practice. Any thoughts welcome.thanks
  • #13,714
  • Dec 11, 2023 8:43pm Dec 11, 2023 8:43pm
Revisiting an old idea from 2018.... The red sine wave is the movement of Vertex on the horizontal ephemeris as it crosses planetary lines in declination mode. The arrow is a predicted change of trend point. EURUSD should be heading up from here...

There are a cluster of 6 crossings that involve Mercury, Pluto, Sun and Mars.... Clusters like this are good CIT points....
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  • #13,715
  • Dec 11, 2023 10:37pm Dec 11, 2023 10:37pm
Quoting grant1440
Has anyone considered that these or certain other practices go against the teaching of The Bible. I have been studying this type of work for some time but have recently been reading The Bible which mentions divination and in a few verses astrology so after reading through the scriptures I have become a little conflicted and uneasy about the path that I have been on for long years. I guess there is a fine line between the study of astronomy and astrology and would like to think that I am basing most of my work on the former. My approach in line with...

Hi Grant,

You have used the word "divination" a few times in your worry about what the bible says. The Oxford dictionary defines divination as "The practice of seeking knowledge of the future or the unknown by "supernatural" means. When Oxford defines supernatural,
adjective: supernatural

  1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
    "a supernatural being"
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  2. Opposite:natural
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This is the issue... it is not a search for financial forecasting that is fraught, but a worship of occult, spooky or any of the other adjectives above. The correlation of planets as a timing device to uncover the cyclical nature of reality is not in the same category.... "To everything there is a season..." The study of cycles is a rational, scientific pursuit, not an occult one. An analogy might be that forecasting the weather is divination and frowned upon in the bible. We would reject that out of hand. Gann was a deeply religious man and found much of his theory of cyclic action confirmed by passages in the bible.

  • #13,716
  • Dec 12, 2023 1:04am Dec 12, 2023 1:04am
Thanks for the response that is somewhat of a relief and puts the issue within a clearer frame of reference. Celestial mechanics and the study of Natural Law seems to fall outside of this category having closer links to that of Astronomy a practice accepted by the mainstream. There is still the assertion that astrology falls within the reference of divination so by examining and using the motions of the planets as a tool to determine the likelyhood of a future event seems to still be in conflict with some of the passages in the bible.
We know Gann was a religious man therefore he would have had a clear understanding of the tools he used and seem to have kept on the right side of God as evidenced through his religious references in the Magic Word and other texts promoting obedience to God. Perhaps using the planets as a timing mechinism is a rational and just study but the use of horoscopes troubles me especially using incorporation charts and the like which seems to be slightly outside the accepted rules. Anyway thanks for your response
  • #13,717
  • Dec 12, 2023 5:24am Dec 12, 2023 5:24am
Quoting jnevins
Revisiting an old idea from 2018.... The red sine wave is the movement of Vertex on the horizontal ephemeris as it crosses planetary lines in declination mode. The arrow is a predicted change of trend point. EURUSD should be heading up from here... There are a cluster of 6 crossings that involve Mercury, Pluto, Sun and Mars.... Clusters like this are good CIT points.... {image}
Sir can u also Add Gold in your list along with EU ..
  • #13,718
  • Dec 12, 2023 5:32am Dec 12, 2023 5:32am
Quoting jnevins
Revisiting an old idea from 2018.... The red sine wave is the movement of Vertex on the horizontal ephemeris as it crosses planetary lines in declination mode. The arrow is a predicted change of trend point. EURUSD should be heading up from here... There are a cluster of 6 crossings that involve Mercury, Pluto, Sun and Mars.... Clusters like this are good CIT points.... {image}
Wow jnevins. Almost to the minute of your statement EURUSD went up 44 pips so far.
  • #13,719
  • Dec 12, 2023 11:51am Dec 12, 2023 11:51am
but the use of horoscopes troubles me especially using incorporation charts and the like which seems to be slightly outside the accepted rules.

Astrologers use the cyclic timing mechanism of the planets to correlate present or future action with what has happened in the past. It is incorrect to say that Venus conjunct Saturn causes a change in trend. It is correct to say that there is a correlation that over time, when a certain long term clock in the heavens reached a certain aspect, an event that has happened many times in the past is likely to happen again. As all scientists will tell you, "never confuse correlation with causation".

Here are a multitude of W.D. Gann quotations: https://www.tradingdevices.com/w-d-gann-quotes/

1)”TIME is the most important factor in determining market movements and by studying the past records of the averages or individual stocks you will be able to prove for yourself that history does repeat and that by knowing the past you can tell the future. There is a definite relation between TIME and PRICE. Now, by a study of the TIME PERIODS and TIME CYCLES you will learn why tops and bottoms are found at certain times and why Resistance Levels are so strong at certain times and bottoms and tops hold around them. The most money is made when fast moves and extreme fluctuations occur at the end of major cycles.”

2)”My calculations are based on the cycle theory and on mathematical sequences.”

3)”Mathematical science, which is the only real science that the entire civilized world has agreed upon, furnishes unmistakable proof of history repeating itself and shows that the cycle theory, or harmonic analysis, is the only thing that we can rely upon to ascertain the future.”

4)”Mathematics is the only exact science. All power under heaven and on earth is given to the man who masters the simple science of mathematics.”

5)”Every movement in the market is the result of a natural law and of a Cause which exists long before the Effect takes place and can be determined years in advance. The future is but a repetition of the past, as the Bible plainly states…”

...and 9 more quotes on the link....
  • #13,720
  • Dec 12, 2023 11:57am Dec 12, 2023 11:57am
Quoting Poocher
{quote} Wow jnevins. Almost to the minute of your statement EURUSD went up 44 pips so far.

Thanks... Here is a video I made from 2018 that explains how to calculate this:

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