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  • #1,781
  • Nov 25, 2006 3:39pm Nov 25, 2006 3:39pm
The only trouble I see with the idea is that FB works of a price channel therefore any movement outside that channel by a predetermined percentage will trigger the ea.

Therefore in a ranging market (70% of the time) it works well as we all know.

maybe if we use the information in the top corner (trending Up) to close all positions untill the market starts ranging again.

In my case FB made some 350% return in 7 weeks. if I had close all positions at the start of the move to a trend sure I would have lost some money but I would have been able to start it again when it returned to ranging.

Just my thoughts....

Glenn.
  • #1,782
  • Nov 25, 2006 4:23pm Nov 25, 2006 4:23pm
Quoting glenn5t
The only trouble I see with the idea is that FB works of a price channel therefore any movement outside that channel by a predetermined percentage will trigger the ea.

Therefore in a ranging market (70% of the time) it works well as we all know.

maybe if we use the information in the top corner (trending Up) to close all positions untill the market starts ranging again.

In my case FB made some 350% return in 7 weeks. if I had close all positions at the start of the move to a trend sure I would have lost some money but I would have been able to start it again when it returned to ranging.

Just my thoughts....

Glenn.
I agree, if we try to make the EA do everything, it wont work best where it was designed for. The only thing I can think about changing to take advantage of a trending market is to extend the TP level as the market trends in our favor.. BUT when it goes against us, it really goes against us This may not be avoidable, but we neeed to minimize the damage some way. Maybe analyze CCI, and/or MACD, as the markets trend, and if it reaches and sustains a pre defined level, FB will close the trades. Maybe?? Just throwing ideas out right now.

Rusty
  • #1,783
  • Nov 26, 2006 4:00am Nov 26, 2006 4:00am
here's an idea. take the hedge v1.0b2 and make the hedge trade (with the trend) a large TP (say 100 pips) with a TS of say 20.
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  • #1,784
  • Nov 26, 2006 4:29am Nov 26, 2006 4:29am
Well I have to agree that if we change the EA totally it may not work in situations it should work.
And there is always manual trading available in case we see the indication.
But not to throw that idea away totally I have question about it – As long as I know there is not possible to attached two EA-s to one chart. Correct me if I am wrong! So, can we make a new EA to run it on parallel chart with the chart Firebird on it and the new EA would get the signal to initiate trade from Firebird. (Basically we would have two identical charts open:
Chart A we could have Firebird on it
Chart B we could have new EA on it).

Is it possible?
  • #1,785
  • Nov 26, 2006 4:37am Nov 26, 2006 4:37am
could set an email alert then do it manually.
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  • #1,786
  • Nov 26, 2006 4:56am Nov 26, 2006 4:56am
That is possible but... well I do not sit in front of computer 24/5. So it would be good if that function could be automated
  • #1,787
  • Nov 26, 2006 12:19pm Nov 26, 2006 12:19pm
Since the Pip Boxer ea was mentioned in a couple of above posts, i'll chime in and say for my demo testing the ea has been averaging +500 pips each week since it's release, with rarely over -30 to -40 pips float at any given time after close of a given day/week. The other reason i "switched" was it works on breakout patterns which is how i trade manualy so it makes sense to me.

. . . now back to our regularly scheduled program . . .
What to do with a great EA (FB) that gets its butt kicked once there is any sign of a trend? That question has been asked since day one of this thread and still no solution found that i've seen/read.

: ) Thom
  • #1,788
  • Nov 26, 2006 2:17pm Nov 26, 2006 2:17pm
I agree, since other ea's systems have been talked about I have been using OrangeRoshan's method for setting the days trends for my manual trading...

Now If we can use this method whichs works of the daily candle from the previous day then FB would work within a 24 hour time frame.However the down side would be in a strong trending market we are still likely to get trades several days old that are a long way out, in that case maybe a close after so may hours...thus taking a loss but a managed one.

Just my thoughts..

Glenn
  • #1,789
  • Nov 26, 2006 3:29pm Nov 26, 2006 3:29pm
Quoting glenn5t
I agree, since other ea's systems have been talked about I have been using OrangeRoshan's method for setting the days trends for my manual trading...

Now If we can use this method whichs works of the daily candle from the previous day then FB would work within a 24 hour time frame.However the down side would be in a strong trending market we are still likely to get trades several days old that are a long way out, in that case maybe a close after so may hours...thus taking a loss but a managed one.

Just my thoughts..

Glenn
I have had a demo EA running of Orangeroshan's method, written by Skyline who started this thread. I have been running it for about 2 weeks with not so good results. I do like Orangeroshan's method and manually it works well. Problem for me is I am rarely up when it breaks the previous days high or low and it is designed to grab a few pips and run. I really believe that some of the programmers who have worked on Firebird need to get involved if they are not too busy working on something new. Firebird is worth being saved but it can not be trusted in it's present state. (0NLY MY OPINION)
  • #1,790
  • Nov 26, 2006 5:30pm Nov 26, 2006 5:30pm
I do not run the ea...I only use the method manualy...and inconjuction with other indicators I pick up quite a few pips, this morning it has broken the resistance and already iam up 15 pips...

he also has a SRDC method two out where they discuss over filters.

I raised the method from the point of view that its works of previous daily figures therefore moving away from the envolope/channel method.
  • #1,791
  • Nov 26, 2006 5:44pm Nov 26, 2006 5:44pm
Hi guys this is my first post here so, I did some reading and I am not a programmer so if my idea sounds stupid then forgive me.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

Since Pip_Boxer EA works well on news and firebird EA works well on trending market is it possible to find an EA that combines the two.<o></o>


Or maybe run firebird on EUR/US 1 min chart, and since GBP/US almost have the same pattern as the EUR/US we run it using Pip_Boxer (15 min original setting I am not sure if it will work on 1 min) to catch the big movement on chart.<o></o>

Just an idea <o></o>

Regards,<o></o>

Fadi <o></o>
  • #1,792
  • Nov 26, 2006 6:02pm Nov 26, 2006 6:02pm
Quoting fadi
Hi guys this is my first post here so, I did some reading and I am not a programmer so if my idea sounds stupid then forgive me.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

Since Pip_Boxer EA works well on news and firebird EA works well on trending market is it possible to find an EA that combines the two.<o></o>


Or maybe run firebird on EUR/US 1 min chart, and since GBP/US almost have the same pattern as the EUR/US we run it using Pip_Boxer (15 min original setting I am not sure if it will work on 1 min) to catch the big movement on chart.<o></o>

Just an idea <o></o>

Regards,<o></o>

Fadi <o></o>

Fadi,

Not sure I agree with either of your assertions. First, I think we have all just proved that Firebird does not work well in a trending market and nothing including pip_boxer works well during news. With expanded spreads and whipsaw effects, I would never trust an EA to news. But bottom line it may be good for programmers to see what each do best and try to fix Firebird by using some ideas from other EA's.
  • #1,793
  • Nov 27, 2006 3:34am Nov 27, 2006 3:34am
Hello,
I just want to ask a simple question.
How to make FireBird works on micro lot?
I change lot size to 0.01, and no trade is triggered on my demo account on Neuimex.

Pls help.
Thanks so much

Firebird is GREAT!
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  • #1,794
  • Nov 27, 2006 6:38am Nov 27, 2006 6:38am
Quoting demam_emas
Hello,
I just want to ask a simple question.
How to make FireBird works on micro lot?
I change lot size to 0.01, and no trade is triggered on my demo account on Neuimex.

Pls help.
Thanks so much

Firebird is GREAT!
i use neuimex too, FB works.
do u want backtest or start demotrading? u must have an open account with internet connection. it dont work without connected to neuimex (when u only want to backtest)
or try diffrent version from FB
  • #1,795
  • Nov 27, 2006 8:26am Nov 27, 2006 8:26am
Quoting baggermatsch
i use neuimex too, FB works.
do u want backtest or start demotrading? u must have an open account with internet connection. it dont work without connected to neuimex (when u only want to backtest)
or try diffrent version from FB
First, i want to start backtest, then forwardtest, then live!!
FB is going smoothly when lot size is 0.1 (default), when i change it to micro lot (0.01) it's not working.
Maybe i have to modify it from source code?

I choose neuimex because it supports micro lots and allow deposit using e-gold. I love northfinance too, but it doesn't support micro lot.

Still on my journey to find suitable broker and EA....
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  • #1,796
  • Nov 27, 2006 8:31am Nov 27, 2006 8:31am
do u read my post ?

is ur NEXTT connected to the internet? when not, then it doesnt work with micro..
  • #1,797
  • Nov 27, 2006 9:00am Nov 27, 2006 9:00am
Quoting baggermatsch
do u read my post ?

is ur NEXTT connected to the internet? when not, then it doesnt work with micro..
yes! I DO READ your post.
It's not working.
I'm connected to internet and neuimex server, I use the same TF, same start and end day, everything is same except LOT SIZE.
Thx
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  • #1,798
  • Nov 27, 2006 10:31am Nov 27, 2006 10:31am
Quoting traderlismiss
I have had a demo EA running of Orangeroshan's method, written by Skyline who started this thread. I have been running it for about 2 weeks with not so good results. I do like Orangeroshan's method and manually it works well. Problem for me is I am rarely up when it breaks the previous days high or low and it is designed to grab a few pips and run. I really believe that some of the programmers who have worked on Firebird need to get involved if they are not too busy working on something new. Firebird is worth being saved but it can not be trusted in it's present state. (0NLY MY OPINION)
Infact, Skyline, flew all the way from Italy just to meet me personally!! LOL Fired up. I mentored him personally up to level 4 and he said, he is going to do an EA on this method.

I think he can do it because, he has been calling and emailing me, about debugging the result. He really wants to become a Jedi!!

I dont normally do 1-1 in such a short notice, and probably i will not again for a long time.

Good Potential!! LOL
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  • #1,799
  • Nov 27, 2006 10:45am Nov 27, 2006 10:45am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Infact, Skyline, flew all the way from Italy just to meet me personally!! LOL Fired up. I mentored him personally up to level 4 and he said, he is going to do an EA on this method.

I think he can do it because, he has been calling and emailing me, about debugging the result. He really wants to become a Jedi!!

I dont normally do 1-1 in such a short notice, and probably i will not again for a long time.

Good Potential!! LOL
Great! My question is for Skyline and probably should be addressed in a different thread but here goes. My problem with the EA you wrote for Orangeroshan is that I get loss in both directions. It crosses the daily high or lows, does not collect enough pips to TP and then stops out, then does the same in the other direction. This has happened several times.
I really like Firbird and know that you were working on Skypips which I believe was to be based somewhat on Firebird. First, how is that working out? Second, have you written a new EA or fix for the Orangeroshan method.
Thanks,
  • #1,800
  • Nov 27, 2006 10:58am Nov 27, 2006 10:58am
Quoting traderlismiss
Great! My question is for Skyline and probably should be addressed in a different thread but here goes. My problem with the EA you wrote for Orangeroshan is that I get loss in both directions. It crosses the daily high or lows, does not collect enough pips to TP and then stops out, then does the same in the other direction. This has several times.
I really like Firbird and know that you were working on Skypips which I believe was to be based somewhat on Firebird. First, how is that working out? Second, have you written a new EA or fix for the Orangeroshan method.
Thanks,
Hi Melissa yes i know, my first EA on Orange's method had a lot of bug infact as you can see I didn't post any other version because I'd like to learn as much as I can about that method so I meet Orange personally and he teached directly and I want to thanks him so much!!
Well it was expensive for my pocket (travel, hotel, and so on..) but it has been worth it ! Infact from my first backtesting EA could double account in a week but i'm still developing it since it's not still completely coded full level 4 method

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