Point to Point a.k.a. Deterministic Trading with Orbit the Tool

I know that it was only a quote, but I thought a bit of activity in the thread is a good idea :-)

Not really a talent, I know Sam's thread over at FS what means I have an advantage in reading the screenface.

How many charts do you have open at the same time? Because I think MT4 can not handle more than 2 open charts with the orbit template.

Greetings

In subject, which is trading point to point, activity good idea. Anything different is noise and waste of time.

Talent or not you've walked the path and it shows that it is understood to a newcomer in Orbit but over a decade experience in the business.
Even more impressed by you if you ask me as I always thought you can not teach an old dog new tricks. Nice one!

I have just one tab with Orbit@6n and one tab with a symbol changer Orbit "companion" template I made which is lighter than Orbit to quickly switch through my Top10 to check the pivot part and in a childish rsi way the oscillator part of the original. No room for symbol changer in Orbit template but even if found it takes time to calculate on each change of symbol/timeframe.

WARNING: ON SNAP ATTACHED IS A TECHNICAL IMITATION OF THE MATHEMATICAL MODEL USED SOLELY FOR ANALYSIS BUT STILL A MODEL
JUST CLARIFYING AS WE'VE ENTERED THE ERA OF PEOPLE USING ELEMENTS OF ORBIT TO PRODUCE OR UPDATE THEIR ORIGINAL AND INOVATIVE "SYSTEMS'.

I tried symbol switcher with the Orbit template, and unfortunately it didn't work. The only solution would be to open a few MT4s with 2 Orbit charts each.

Do you know if the recent orbit set up still has an expiry date? The old Orbit had one. From what Darkdoji wrote, he is not the youngest, and he seems to not be in perfect health.

Have a nice WE.

I guess depends on symbol switcher indicator to work with loading delays or not at all but not enough free pixels in Orbit screenface for that anyway.

As for solution depends on resources. If for example have a trading studio with 9 screens to have visual of all partitions simultaneously you get the whole concept in a day. Then I guess you break them in 4 pair couples keeping one screen for companion and idk Tetris or smth.

Wasn't aware of previous expiry like the rest but iirc it was back then when he asap released this one saying the prototype will be always free and available in FS.
As long as there is public access through FS or anywhere for that matter and my membership is active there will be also a clone in this thread.

The terrifying prospect of friends and foes Samm is at Old Age level really is the story about Enemies of Knowledge:

The first enemy is Fear.
If we run away from it, then learning stops. We defeat this enemy by not running away. We take the next small step to learn. Then we take the next small step, etc. After a long while, there comes a time when fear retreats, making us feel confident. Fear is replaced by clarity.
It’s then that we meet the second enemy: Clarity.

Clarity dispels fear, but also blinds us; we don’t doubt ourselves. We think we can do anything we please because we see clearly into everything. We fight clarity by doubting what we think we know. A time will come when we understand that clarity was only a point before our eyes. It’s then that we defeat this second enemy. The power we’ve pursued for so long will finally be ours. We can use our power for whatever we please.
And thus, we’ve met the third enemy: Power.

Power is the strongest of all enemies. The easiest thing to do is give in to it. We feel invincible, take risks, and make rules because we think we’re the master. We hardly notice this enemy closing in on us. Suddenly, without knowing, we’ve lost the battle. We turn into cruel, capricious people. We have no command over ourselves because we don’t know appropriate ways to use our power. We defeat this enemy by defying it deliberately. We understand that power without self control is worse than a mistake. With that awareness, we’re able to know how to use our power appropriately. And thus, we defeat this third enemy.
We’ll then be at the end of our journeys and almost without warning we’ll come up against the last enemy: Old Age.

This is the cruelest of all, which we can’t defeat completely. We can only continue our fight. We have an unyielding desire to rest in old age. If we lie down and forget all we’ve learned, then we lose the battle. Our desire to retreat will overrule our knowledge. But, if we slough off our tiredness, live our fate through, we can be called a man of knowledge, even if only for a brief moment.

Nice WE 2UAll

Hi,
it seems like there will be a new vers. of Orbit soon including Cmd 0. I'm still not sure what Cmd 0 is, but I'm looking forward.

Any idea why my orbit stop working a couple of days ago? I am using the last version

Hello, you're not alone. it will all be explained soon. Until then Cmd 1 & 2 never stopped working to be tested until expert status.

Hi, I'm using the version I have uploaded here and it works.

Yes, I had a nice overnight gold long based on the commands and bounce of the green mri line. Now 1-8n in kso+ area with 1-5n becoming red what is a warning sign for me.

Hello. Having similar issues (the EA loads in this case but not showing the full screenface) for one of the Mt4's I have, but so far working on my other Mt4's. Tried deleting MT4InstallDir\history folder but same issue still...
Looking forward to the new version soon to be released by the author...

Well my guess is that it maybe is due to the July MT4 1384 built that caused Orbit not loading to many. That may explain why 1380 & 1388 are ok but not 1384.
Personally I never faced this issue. Both my brokers are at March 1380 built.

When mouse hovering over green Mean Reversion Indicator you'll see "Go Long" reading as the deviation should be traded at trend status ie no mean reversion.
Kinematic Similitude Oscillator 1-5 is good to keep you away from not free risk but it seems everybody, me included, are so hooked with KSO that forget to check what other elements are telling at the same time for example Cyclicality.
It seems like when KSO declares pullback Cyclicality may indicate how much while Cmd 2 works as the single trigger.
If so then we're talking about a whole new different level of Chaos Control, no?

But don't take my word as I may read wrong and let's see what happens today. Snaps are during the last half hour or so(couple hours after Tokyo).

Salute 7

New update on page 1 of the thread.

And I quote: "This supersedes all previous versions and introduces a 2 screen solution in which the Trade Control Screen combines with the new Orbit Screenface to enable the Orbit Solution. Because the logic of the new update is very different from all previous versions we expect current Orbit users to upgrade and shall be unable from this point to respond to any questions or opinions in whatever form based on old Orbit versions.

(-_-)
PS: By the settings in trade control the trades compiled and available on that screen are universally matched pivots. Therefore, a user may trade from any Orbit window she wishes to trade from at any point in time. However, points are matched on a TF - 1 basis from left to right so for instance a magenta M(5) on the M1 Trade Control Screen would = a Gold G(4) point on the M5 time frame and an aqua A(3) in the M15 time frame, etc." - DarkDoji

Hi Whitedoji,
unfortunately I don't have much time atm, but I have read a bit through the new PDF, and it's like always I understand a little and I don't understand some or the other way around .

Yeah I got that Whitedoji nickname after I became member as Timetraveler here, but recently navy background kicked in as I called Orbit's screenface "The Cockpit", declaring entry/exit as "torpedo in the water"/"direct hit", naming FLE as "Crazy Ivan" and assuming the Commander Pilot rank(we follow and manage via Commands here, no?) by accepting the mission to hunt down YELLOW SUBMARINES.

Salute 7 (now, that's not a "seven" but a saluting hand, yes?)

P.S. As I ALWAYS say TRADE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND. Not the other way around as you say. I hope you do find time to connect the dots and ATTEMPT A DEMO TEST.

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When market close matches the indications of you should take profit.

Reporting from the Forex NFP battlefield. Target destroyed. Sir!

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Hi,
nice trade.

Do you always wait for a bounce of the mri lines?

Where is your sl?

Thanks.
Please forgive me if I gave the impression that I just wait a bounce on a line with a coinflip edge like everybody nobody so le'ts make it clear for everybody everybody.

This is deterministic trading point to point and by point we mean the pivot and the stop of them all as the price attractor emerges from a single point(singularity) heading towards the singularity it will conclude.
The phenomenon is universal, all science can verify, but today inside electronic traded markets closed environment we are able to apply fractal geometry and chaos math to solve the equation of determinism: if A is known B is certain and capitalize from the properties and behavior of the market being a mathematical model and not the zoo lab filled with animals, spin-doctors and chartists as presented by all others.
It is all others... point, pun intended, of view as it was ours before become Chaotists(trade chaos footprints, no news no TA apophenia), to draw net lines on the sand expecting to catch fish. Sure there is some merit to lines. They are consisted by... points so trading lines effectively makes one a spread better gambler but I will never allow myself to such low intelligence barrier.
I call it the Need for a Grid.

I work following the commands. In the most simple words I was waiting for the thing to lit up from red/purple to green/gold.
This time, and on this instrument, happened after Tokyo open so I switched to Control paying attention to semaphores pointing up and bought the first one(green dot at left of the control screenshot). In hindsight one could argue it's an early entry as I should have waited European markets turbulence magnifying the equilibrium on the base mean it was(in FLE the whole time after all) before breaking it.
That. I should have known better as this range expansion could be a huge whipsaw not uncommon on NFP Fry-day but thankfully it seems I had early and reliable information of what was on the cards and released the torpedo no questions asked...

If you ask me for a hard stop loss, I normally place it by the book which is below initial value(@1.04477 in this case) or last arrow if it is a scalp but at such volatility events one must have the experience to either stay out or get virtually all in as brokers are allowed to play god for a nanosec or two.
Unless of course you have a simple approach of market's commands and are disciplined enough to follow them like orders as Orbit visual solution shows the prevailing order of all market... orders to rule them all.
So in Orbit's case you just follow red to green buy orders and green to red sell orders.
It becomes irrational buying green from red then holding buy when green to red and during red in the hope for green until stop loss and margin call.

Similarly if you ask for take profit target again I rely on commands and it shows in my previous post that command 1(risk free under control) went off at close.
Of course there is availability and term horizons dictating style. Personal opinion but like in stop loss there is room for personal style.
Others may feel comfortable to pick an MRI extreme or even meet their RR while experienced ones want an established folding after a stretch to make sense to them. Reason I say trade what you understand.
But one has to try and for that has to truly want after downloading as it is downloaded 100's of times but very very few actually want to grow a braincell even after spoon-fed to just follow simple, but not simplistic, orders.
Such a pity for any reason.

Hi and thx for your answer.

So does it mean that your sl is more some kind of disaster sl and you normally close a position when price goes against you and the screen face shows a change for a buy position (green to red) or for a sell (red to green) with regard to TT, Cy and kso?