Point to Point a.k.a. Deterministic Trading with Orbit the Tool

First and foremost it must be stressed that the model/tool in the .zip attached is the prototype built on MT4 and is available for free. 1st post will be edited to have the last update whenever there is one. That way anyone will be on the same page able to put in practice the approach described in the books of the bundle to learn how to find order in chaos, i.e. a recurring risk free trading space, of any market in any timeframe. So let us review some of the early concepts to bear in mind.

When you come into trading one thing is common – somehow you come to believe that “technical” analysis and “fundamental” analysis are the only ways for a trader to think about, analyze and trade markets. In this thread we will see that this view is not necessarily correct and that in fact there is a third way.
A new, different, way of thinking and trading. This explanation of market movement allows even the least experienced trader to visually recognize and exploit risk free space within/during the formation of a market move(and beyond) without the need of a background above average in mathematics or finance. Of course scientists and experienced specialists are most welcomed and warmly encouraged to participate as well, for the benefit of all.
We, chaotists, use the mathematics of chaos and fractal geometry to enable us think, analyze and trade markets somewhat differently and probably (you decide), more effectively. So we shall be demonstrating how accurately chaos theory and the notion of a chaotic equation (a recurrence relation), fully explain market movement. That is at all times and across all market time scales. We will do this by introducing a chaotic trading model of the market called Orbit the Tool (please note we did not say indicator we said model). This model is driven by a market equation (in analogue on this occasion), which is based on the Logistic Map (often called the Mother of Deterministic Chaos).

Certainly,
a) We will see the market is fractal (fractured in time), and as described by the market equation. As such deterministic (it is ok to search unfamiliar terms), and the common sense meaning of deterministic in trading is point to point trading (and chaos says markets are best traded deterministically, i.e. to enable zero risk space).
b) we will also see that to do so does not require any explicit knowledge of mathematics, you use Orbit to validate the ideas. In fact the model is far simpler to use and learn than your average “technical trading system“(if you are patient to learn first).
c) you will see that the idea of chaos is based on a mathematical pattern and that in markets this pattern is fixed according to the same equation we mentioned and so easily represented by the Zigzag tool and other related Zigzag based tools.

But most important we will give you here a simple chaotic strategy which we rate as correct 100/100 times. The idea is to use what we share about chaos (including Orbit the Tool), to demonstrate the power of this new method of thinking and trading and to test the same ideas yourself to, for example, confirm or dispute the count we have mentioned above.
Wish everyone well. Remember as equals we MUST be polite to one another and as equals help one another understand a new concept and grow it. We estimate that with focus even a newbie should be trading the tool with 4 – 6 weeks of gaining the required understanding. Please follow the instructions in the Zip exactly.

Important Notes : Feel free to ask and answer your own questions with one another as I, Timetraveler, won't be around all the time plus all aspects are fully covered in the books and presentations. Read again until you get or leave in peace as a change of approach may not be for everyone after all. My main responsibility is to keep the place on the same page and clean. Besides, I'm not the original author to whom you may contact (info in the books) for further advanced details. Last but not least, since the original author maintains the original thread in another trading related forum, my sole intention creating this thread is to retransmit the knowledge to fellow FF members who may be interested.

Again Best wishes
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24/10/23 The NEW Orbit Update

a) The Update involves a Trade Control Screen (Template separate from the tool itself used for identifying available moves, tracking and monitoring moves as they evolve) and a supplemental pdf to the theory and details described in the Playbooks zip.
b) An updated version of the Tool which supersedes all previous versions.
c) A cover note below that guides usage.
Notes:
The Trade Control Screen is set to the M1 time frame and we refer only to settings there in our guide and future comments.
Under no circumstances should the lookbacks used in the template be varied in any way shape or form nor should any indicators other than those provided be added at all. In discussions (with screenshots from poster), we expect to see the Trade Control Screen, as well as Orbit Screenface, as posted here.
Any variation to its original form implies we would be unable to respond to such a post with any form of comment except to request that the poster represents the correct screen.


THE ORBIT SCREENFACE



TRADE CONTROL SCREEN

Concept of Chaos - No randomness= Order
So what is chaos? Chaos is a behaviour in the numbers when assets are traded. It is endogenous to the dynamical structure of price fluctuation and is not at all related to the behaviour of traders or their feelings about the market, or to things such as e.g. news, events or socioeconomic perturbations in the world - including wars, etc. Why? This is because it is a behaviour in the numbers not outside the numbers.

This is very different from the common understanding most traders have; but it is vital to understand that chaos is a behaviour in the numbers and not in the world outside of the numbers when assets are traded and hence the term Deterministic Chaos. What is more, this helps to explain the absolute accuracy and dependability of deterministic systems (in lay terms nothing disturbs such a pattern and mathematicians say “a deterministic system admits no randomness whatsoever in its future states”).

So what is this behaviour in the numbers? Mathematics defines chaos as the repeated folding and stretching of the space to which the variable (e.g. Price) maps. What does that mean? To understand this just go to your tick chart and observe the fluctuation in your MT4 Market Watch window. You will see with your own eyes this behaviour at the lowest resolution available to traders. It is what you see here that affects the entire market space and no matter the time frame price behaves exactly in this way but less speedily to the eye because the resolutions are far, far bigger than that in which we find tick chaos and so it is true that no matter the time frame the behaviour of price is chaotic and the same – that is repeated folding and stretching of the space to which it maps (the term maps should be clear from what you saw of tick chaos).
 
Because of this behaviour (which fractures price translations,”breaks into pieces” price movement), we say the market is fractal (fractured dynamically in its progressions up or down), and hence the representation of this behaviour by zigzag tools. Many traders say and think that zigzag tools “repaint”- but mathematicians who understand market behaviour more than traders say no – it is the market that “repaints” because zigzag tools are amplitude seeking devices they recalculate to follow the stop start behaviour of price which reflects its chaotic behaviour of folding and stretching. This is very important to keep in mind that in fact zigzag tools represent the actual nature of market movement exactly and also show its fractured (fractal) nature to similar exactitude. To be clear this behaviour in the numbers when assets are traded define the patterns we see in all traded markets, we would also like to point to another very important tool we use to capture chaos on our template – i.e., the MRI tool.

In “technical” analysis traders talk of “support and resistance,” but in mathematics there is nothing like that because nothing in the behaviour of fractals underpinning a chaotic system validates that concept. Mathematics shows that rather than that we have a path which price follows up and down and this path is a fixed shape (or fracture constructed for each up and down move regardless of time frame). This means that if price is going down at a time and turns up the shape is inverted to fit the direction of price when going up and then inverted again when going down giving us the same shape (pattern), always. This shape is called the Strange Attractor.

In order to represent this simply and demonstrate its practical meaning to trading we use the MRI tool which is named for Mean Reversion Indicator (because price is cyclical in movement, i.e. moves up and down it is also a mean reverting variable as such). So please in Chaos the idea of Support and Resistance does not exist. But the MRI helps us understand what does in terms of behaviour because it shows folding space and stretching space or range. And we track price significant point to significant point by when price is folding and when price is stretching.

We mention the immediate things to keep in mind as we begin this promising adventure into a totally different way of thinking about markets. However, here we are all equals and there is no teacher. A tool or model of the market is provided, a strategy by which to trade it is also provided. To understand this simple and obviously lucrative strategy we have to know the logic by which it runs so that we understand not just entry, take profit, set stop etc but what it (model) looks at to trade and in that way follow correctly. So everyone must read and understand collaboratively with others on the thread. After which once ready we test the ideas to affirm or dispute the new method of trading by working with the simple but powerful trading strategy. The model is a model NOT AN INDICATOR the idea of chaos that it shows is the object and not the tool -----> the tool is the vehicle that delivers that idea in a way that it can be tested and the strategy is what confirms the efficacy of the same ideas.

(even in ancient Egypt were well aware of the fractal nature of everything)

Pretentious twaddle.

I feel the need to be crystal clear on this.
I'm not the mathematician and/or the creator of Orbit the tool. I'm just am ex technical trader who became a Chaotist by exploring the ideas about chaos while having the privilege of a sneak peak, perhaps placing a stone or two, in the development of this model through the years.

It may seem odd but the difficult part was to "untechnical" my mind and not conquer chaos math given I have anyone's background on math.

Therefore I will try on this thread to keep the hard to get concepts of the theory to the minimum and try to focus on a communication as simple as it gets.

Last but not least I remind you that this is a thread about Point to Point a.k.a. Deterministic Trading with Orbit the Tool.
It goes without saying that anything different and/or beyond such as irrelevant charts or Orbit charts with a twist of another indicator will be ignored.

Again thanx in advance

Yeah, but this is demo, yadda yadda yadda
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FF finds too big the size of the file to upload it so here's a download link: Operator Whitedoji aka The Pilot trading Orbit

There's no shortcut on this except if you can tell the differences between the previous screenface of the model and now as it is a good example of another top pivot and how orbit read and told an event like this is coming as it now reads and tells the pullback.
It is simple once you trust the math that there is a path if of course you don't trust your own eyes spotting crucial differences...

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nice job, tidy work! like it

But it really is visual reading of the pivot in search of the next bijection and so on and so forth so happy reading everyone

hi,sir: it appears not fit in?

What about the issue of the tool freezing? I read this is a known defect that will not be repaired. How can anyone try to evaluate or use a tool that randomly freezes and there is no indication that it has frozen, other than if the viewer happens to be sitting at the screen and notices no change in a "long" time. But then again, how to know if it is frozen or if there simply was nothing transpired that needs to be redrawn??? The user is supposed to periodically close and restart MT4, or reapply the EA????

My good friend 4XPhuq-R asked me to post this on his behalf seeing as you bravely () blocked him one second after replying to him:

"As I stated, all you have written is pretentious twaddle. It is designed to look 'intelligent' and impress naive newbies that some mathematical genius has figured out something never before discovered about the nature of the markets that will allow for 100% profitability.

In other words: it's the time tested appeal to baiting the brain-dead with the prospect of possessing the holy grail.

The more complex the look of the coloured squiggles and feverish use of obscure, technical jargon, the more the dumb-dumbs out there will salivate and clap their hands like seals. It also relies on human ego, because no-one wants to put their hand up and say, "duuuh, me no understand." Even though there ISN'T ANYTHING to understand in the first place and that's the point! The emperor has no clothes and has purposely created the scam in such as way as to hide his nakedness behind a wall of incomprehensible gibberish.

He is not the first and certainly won't be the last to try this approach. There's a whole industry devoted to selling the dream - just look at the plethora of chancers out there who claim to have cracked W.D. Gann's 'code' and sell their wares on places like Sacredscience.com for tens of thousands of dollars.

In this particular case we have a Nigerian Einstein by the name of Samm Ikwue who is so incredibly gifted that not only has he worked out a trading formula that nobody before in history has detected, but he's so incredibly selfless as to not use it himself to become the richest man on Earth. Nope, instead he'd rather get us to send him money by way of a subscription service, as per the instruction in the first minute and a half of his YouTube video, linked on the last page of all the PDFs that you attached in your initial post. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense...

I guess the burning question we all have is this: does this chaos theory prodigy of incalculable intellect accept Paypal donations to his Hotmail email address?"
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Like I said, this comment was from my friend and I'm doing him a favour by posting it. I do not care if you block me as well however, as I've no interest in anything being written on this thread.

you must change to a higher screen resolution given your screen supports it

I started with BTC because it is traded during weekends but you know what? I have an idea
Why don't YOU DO XAU please? It's realy easy.
Just set up a demo Orbit, load XAU EURUSD GBPUSD whatever you like, observe H4, take notes come back with YOUR experience ideas.

When freeze happens I just reload the template and by long habit restart MT4 every 100-200k of data. Speaking of habits a chaotic one is to check frequently between neighboring timeframes to visually confirm the weights of the pivots, the shape of the structure and many other important clues. This action actively refreshes the model or you know it's frozen last 5 mins.

Points to remember:
-One reads what he wants to read, not everyone can change mindset and not anyone comes with good intentions even if he believes so.
- It is a PROTOTYPE that is limited by MT4 capabilities and available imperfect indicators not a trading robot but with a little effort and good faith the user/operator/pilot/chaotist/trader can find edge to say the least.
-Orbit the tool is a MARKET ANALYSIS TOOL. In effect and in essence it means that as an MT4 EA calculating the chaotic equation it can only READ and INFORM the market's status and intentions restricted to the least possible error within the main context and that is RISK FREE SPACE that always goes along with NOT FREE RISK SPACE. If market wasn't deterministic that would be impossible as impossible are the gambling instincts of humans.

If it freezes it's an indication of itself of many things such as:
-You' were not behind the wheel and away from your trading money. SHAME ON YOU
-You're running two Orbit charts or too many charts in general or also demanding, There are limits take it easy.
-Your market feed is dead aka no transactions from broker(usually at market clearing close and open "recalibration").
-High frequency volatility(usually out of nowhere but also on some news announcements where brokers freeze even the plain chart on such events.

Thanx for asking and really keep wandering about

Your good friend from North Korea with the exotic name knows also I'm not the founder and he has long decided to spend the time to remain ignorant and thus rightfully ignored.
You would be ignored not because you're asking to but because of lack of interest i.e.stay ignorant and rightfully ignored too.


P.S. Thanks for the time spend. I, Timetraveler, have never had subscription or any financial transaction whatsoever with the founder of Orbit the tool, Sam Ikuwe. I'm a retail part time trader user of the free, and only to my knowledge, versions of the tool he shares publicly. Of course if one is in search of whois and how to pay one somehow is easy. The difficult is to admit the existence of accurate reading of any market without technical or fundamental analysis fallacy.
Like it or not Bloomberg and Elliot are officially over, long live Mandelbrot.

Continuing to update you with live snaps of the model with BTC to see the sequence of how the oscillator part cools down(it's late Saturday early Sunday after all) and pointing down but how the semaphoric part as well as the command part not changed yet. From here they will start to change too so this snap will be useful to compare with the future ones.

Reminder: I won't be around all the time but I'll do my best to help you get on track. Salute 7

The translation is speeding up at a smooth pace. The new semaphore deterministically came to confirm pullback status. So apart oscillator part that perfectly reads the cycle down, we now have a change in the semaphore=pivot=point-to-point part but not at the TT=Cy command part which still says up.
If the command changes the pullback will extend much lower than a minor correction, if not and the oscillator cycles back up then a new high will come.
In any case we will be informed ahead(how well ahead depends on translation speed and for many my availability) just as we are constantly and correctly are being informed since the pivot of the first post about the validity of the pivot and the subsequent antipersistent series.

I agree with everything you say, but I disagree with several things:
We agree that we are talking about a person whose alias is "DarkDoji" and his name is Sam, who understands a lot with mathematics which makes him a very intelligent person, he is extremely good and helpful at times, but with a lot of ego . . . . . . and a lot of arrogance. which makes me have many doubts. of his supposed "disinterest" This affects him a lot and leaves him far from REAL and disinterested people... The Legends of all time, who have no ego, have a lot of humility and do help, share and contribute to the development and programming of ("open source"), these are the great and irreplaceable "Mladen", Mr. "MrTOOLs" and Xard. . .. In fact, thanks to them he was able to build his tool and that is more than obvious, in addition to the fact that he himself thanks them publicly... now... having said all this, I clarify that this is not an indicator or an EA, Orbit TOOL is just a tool which should be used as a trading companion to support whatever your trading strategy is, regardless of whether it is "deterministic" or not. It is clear that it is not intended to be the Holy Grail in any way, but if you expand the possibilities of the most novices...
In short, everything that is visually in that tool can be found on a website called “Complexity Explorables” that is dedicated to the study of these “theoretical model games.” There you will understand that the tool helps you so that you do not have to detect these patterns manually since it does the calculations for you and shows you the conditions of said pattern visually.
Suppose you are using the tool and you get used to using it or depend on it to trade, we all know that this man's health has not been very good if one day he disappears, what are you going to do, how would you update said tool, that is why I previously talked about open source programming as development increases and I would like to mention a quote from "David Emery", "The only people who have anything to fear from free software are those whose products are worth even less."....
That's why I very much doubt the selflessness that you mention so much about that man.

No we don't agree we're talking about the man. I was clear from the start I'm talking about the ideas of the man and everything offered for free as long as it lasts. If you're so excited and so extensively obsessed and jealous that a Nigerian made a mathematical achievement or not make your own thread or go to his, not mine.
In this thread it is me and my humble analysis of what the title says "Point to Point a.k.a. Deterministic Trading with Orbit the Tool""

Ignoring title and what I say FOR FREE and especially that downloadable link upstairs shows acting without thinking and thus ignorant of trading and rightfully ignored enriching my scalp collection AS SERIAL IGNORANTS WOULD BE RELENTLESLY IGNORED TO THEIR OBLIVION.

Another semaphore is another point and in that sequence and shape of light weight pivots it is called that the market is going in FLE - Finite Loop Equilibrium which is NOT FREE RISK SPACE as well as corrections pullbacks and scalps <M30 in my book. Along with last red semaphore right at the high deviation of MRI indicator, Oscillator part points down to at least a heavier semaphore to pivot back up as command/diagonal/main direction remain pointing up. If that is true then pivot is expected to revert to the mean which is where command may change pointing down and that would mean bears are now in control.

Orbit is and will be 100/100 and it will show what is happening live but that doesn't mean you can exploit that right off the bat without effort discipline and correct mindset, have control on the market translation, know the future or that there is riskless tradeable space within those small zig zags. You can try and I would be jealous and proud of your success as ultimately IT IS THE MAN, NOT THE MACHINE and that man is the pilot of the Raffale. Not the machine itself nor its inventor.