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Does anyone have the template for his 1H technical charts avalible? I would love to have them avalible to me to start the week. Thank you in advance for any and all who help.
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results 29-05-07: cable = + 31 pips...swissy = -14 pips... CAD = +42 pips....jpy = + 1pip = TOTAL = +60pips

regards..iGoR
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CEO Thank you for I finally have the indicators. If anyone needs help read CEO post. Thanks again.
Guys,

I just downloaded paltalk and am in the TSR room listening to the audio right now. What do I need to do to see the charts?
Quoting pavejon
Guys,

I just downloaded paltalk and am in the TSR room listening to the audio right now. What do I need to do to see the charts?

Pavejon - Read post 4 on pg.1 in this thread. The audio is in Paltalk and the video is in tradingrooms.com
Thanks.
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Very impressive Igor. Looking back over the thread you have not had one losing day since starting this journal. That really is impressive.
Honestly. Has anyone listened to all the audio files? Seriously I have tried. Lord knows I have tried. There is just too much extraneous talking going on. I cannot listen to these files. When something important comes up after 5 minutes of talking to someone about hypothetical trades and possible errors of trading I have to rewind and re listen to the important tid bit again to absorb it. I vowed to SimonK that if I make it through these audio files I'll condense them into a word or PDF format that others can read through quickly. The system itself seems very simple. I have read other forums to gleen as much data as I can about the system and from what I can tell we are essentially using larger time frame MA's to establish a strong trend (although we don't need them) then we trade in the direction of medium time frame moving averages after a short time frame moving average retraces and then moves in the direction of medium term trend. If I just explained the whole damn system I'm gonna be upset.
It really is that easy.
Quoting THE FxORCE
Honestly. Has anyone listened to all the audio files? Seriously I have tried. Lord knows I have tried. There is just too much extraneous talking going on. I cannot listen to these files. When something important comes up after 5 minutes of talking to someone about hypothetical trades and possible errors of trading I have to rewind and re listen to the important tid bit again to absorb it. I vowed to SimonK that if I make it through these audio files I'll condense them into a word or PDF format that others can read through quickly. The system itself seems very simple. I have read other forums to gleen as much data as I can about the system and from what I can tell we are essentially using larger time frame MA's to establish a strong trend (although we don't need them) then we trade in the direction of medium time frame moving averages after a short time frame moving average retraces and then moves in the direction of medium term trend. If I just explained the whole damn system I'm gonna be upset.
Yeah, I'm right with you FxORCE. I know that FXiGoR is trying to combine a lot of helpful sidetips to filter the method, but it's such an unnecessarily laborious process sitting through the audio. I've listened to the first 3 hours recording and it seems like it could be condensed to a 1-2 page summary. I know beggars can't be choosers but...

Also, are the hiccups and take-my-hand setups still used? Or is it just the First-Top-First-Bottom and Squeeze methods? I listened to the first recording and it sounds like after all that, those set-ups and even the 15 M TF is no longer used.
Quoting fxprocessor
Very impressive Igor. Looking back over the thread you have not had one losing day since starting this journal. That really is impressive.
Hi fxprocessor,

To be honest I had 1 losing day. If you follow up the results of the account you will see 1 jump that does not fit with the daily result I make.

But it is no so that I only try to post my winnings. That particular day (I beleive it was on a friday) did not find the time to make that posting...

regards..iGoR
Quoting libertao
Yeah, I'm right with you FxORCE. I know that FXiGoR is trying to combine a lot of sidetips to the method, but it's such an unnecessarily laborious process sitting through the audio. I've listened to the first 3 hours recording and it could definitely be condensed to a 1-2 page summary.
Liberato,

It can not be condensed in a 1-2 page summary.
We talk about trading my friend. Trading is see this on the same level of a doctor or a lawyer or an ingeneer.
The studies for those kind of professions can not be condensed in 1-2 pages. It took years of university.

I am trading now for 11 years. And still learning every day. How can I put all of these years on a piece of paper. I try to put all my experience in TSR trading. Not only in the mathematical setups but in every detail about setups, money management, daily ranges, price action itself as best invented indicator, your goals , your targets etc etc...
I gave a webinar were I started teaching from monday morning till friday evening and still I had the idea that there was a lot more to explain.

Again we talk about profitable trading on the long term with drawdown as small as possible.
People are brainwashed by all the adverts for so called systems or EA's and indicators that are dead simple and were one can write down the rules in a few lines.

If it would be possible to write down a profitable trading system in a few lines or on a piece of paper wouldn't we all be rich ?...

regards...iGoR
Quoting FXiGoR
Liberato,

I am trading now for 11 years. And still learning every day. How can I put all of these years on a piece of paper.
iGoR, that is not what I was saying. I was only referring to the first audio recording that I listened to, the 3-hour BasicTSR. Perhaps 1-2 pages was too small an estimate, but certainly it could be written down onto something that took much less time to read than 3 hours. You are most certainly NOT obligated to write such a document, I was only making an observation.

Thank you for what you already have contributed.
Quoting libertao
Yeah, I'm right with you FxORCE. I know that FXiGoR is trying to combine a lot of helpful sidetips to filter the method, but it's such an unnecessarily laborious process sitting through the audio. I've listened to the first 3 hours recording and it seems like it could be condensed to a 1-2 page summary. I know beggars can't be choosers but...

Also, are the hiccups and take-my-hand setups still used? Or is it just the First-Top-First-Bottom and Squeeze methods? I listened to the first recording and it sounds like after all that, those set-ups and even the 15 M TF is no longer used.
The take my hand and hiccups on 15 min charts are elementary lessons. We do not trade 15 min anymore ( an important reason these days is that the daily ranges are way to small) but they are essential in understanding TSR.

Again my ambition here is not to be mister popular. I am here to teach people how to trade. If people expect that they can learn the rules in a couple of hours and start making money tomorrow then I have to disapoint you.

If you are willing to spend LOTS OF TIME and VERY HARD WORK to learn how to trade then I can promise you that TSR strategy can help you for the rest of you trading careers.
If you expect from any kind of trading system, method or strategy that you can make you money by laying with your feet on your desk and leaning back in your chair with your hands behind your head then forget it...

There are no secrets in life. Making money requires dedication, discipline, patience, devotion, hard work etc...
Try to find a book about trading or an experienced trader that you personnaly know and that will say to you: I made money true trading and it was just a piece of cake, didn't had to do anything only pushing a few buttons according some rules that were written on a piece of paper and money kept on streamng in for the rest of my life....don't think you will it or find him.

regards..iGoR
Quoting FXiGoR
Again my ambition here is not to be mister popular. I am here to teach people how to trade. If people expect that they can learn the rules in a couple of hours and start making money tomorrow then I have to disapoint you.

If you are willing to spend LOTS OF TIME and VERY HARD WORK to learn how to trade then I can promise you that TSR strategy can help you for the rest of you trading careers.
If you expect from any kind of trading system, method or strategy that you can make you money by laying with your feet on your desk and leaning back in your chair with your hands behind your head then forget it...

There are no secrets in life. Making money requires dedication, discipline, patience, devotion, hard work etc...
Try to find a book about trading or an experienced trader that you personnaly know and that will say to you: I made money true trading and it was just a piece of cake, didn't had to do anything only pushing a few buttons according some rules that were written on a piece of paper and money kept on streamng in for the rest of my life....don't think you will it or find him.

regards..iGoR
I certainly agree with you, but I'm not making a comment on the volume of information, just the method/medium used to relay it.

Please don't try to paint me as that guy who pops in 100 pages into a thread and asks "I haven't read any of this thread yet, but is there an EA for this method? If so, please email or PM it to me, thanks bye"
Quoting libertao
I certainly agree with you, but I'm not making a comment on the volume of information, just the method/medium used to relay it.

Please don't try to paint me as that guy who pops in 100 pages into a thread and asks "I haven't read any of this thread yet, but is there an EA for this method? If so, please email or PM it to me, thanks bye"
Libertao,

I don't know if the problem is that I don't understand you or that you don't understand me...

I try to explain that REAL profitable trading over longer periods of time can not be explained or learned in a few rules or on a few pieces of paper.
I try to explain that there is no such thing as making easy money.
I try to explain that trading is VERY hard work.
I try to explain that one can not earn money by leaning back in a chair with hands behind your head...
I try to explain that a lawyer or a doctor had to go to univeristy for many years. Why ?...to learn the basic and to get knowledge. But that knowledge, they need to addapt to every kind of new situation. There is not one model how to do surchery or how to winn a a case.
The same goes for TSR trading. Adapting to the dynamics of the markets.

So how can there be an EA in what I teach and what I try to explain.
People who use an EA, think that in the evening they come home and the only thing they need to do is count the money. There is no such thing...again there is no such thing.
Every EA in real trading (not in backtests) will sooner or later create drawdowns in your account were you will look to losses of 30%-50% And that has nothing to do with trading. People who start with 1000$ don't realy bother to lose 500$. If you trade professionaly and you work with a couple hundred thousands of dollar you will not allow yourself to lose 50% of that money.
Many EA's will even burn your compleet account.
If you want to trade or earn money by trading and you don't have the time to look to charts and setups buy yourself some stocks and forget about FX.
What I say sounds maybe hard or some will say arrogant but my intentions are sincere and well ment. But there is not soft way to explain this.
Hundreds of thousands of people who only have a few thousands dollars dream every day to make a living out of trading on FX. Every day thousands of people need to quit because the money is gone and their dreams are shattered into pieces. Every day new people walk in with the same goals and the same dreams....
So learn how to become a REAL TRADER, not how to install an EA or rely on an EA or push some buttons based on some indicators that lign up.
As I say many times in my trading room. Learn a men how to fish and you will feed him for the rest of his life.

friendly regards...iGoR
Quoting FXiGoR
Libertao,

I don't know if the problem is that I don't understand you or that you don't understand me...

It's this one, I assure you!!!!

Requoted for emphasis:
Quoting libertao
I certainly agree with you
Thanks iGor for your TSR introduction here. I have been using your slope direction lines combined with Hans123 system for last 1+ year and having best pips most of the times. Your friendliness and contribution to trading community is really great. Every trader should respect your effort.


Quoting FXiGoR
Libertao,

I don't know if the problem is that I don't understand you or that you don't understand me...

I try to explain that REAL profitable trading over longer periods of time can not be explained or learned in a few rules or on a few pieces of paper.
I try to explain that there is no such thing as making easy money.
I try to explain that trading is VERY hard work.
I try to explain that one can not earn money by leaning back in a chair with hands behind your head...
I try to explain that a lawyer or a doctor had to go to univeristy for many years. Why ?...to learn the basic and to get knowledge. But that knowledge, they need to addapt to every kind of new situation. There is not one model how to do surchery or how to winn a a case.
The same goes for TSR trading. Adapting to the dynamics of the markets.

So how can there be an EA in what I teach and what I try to explain.
People who use an EA, think that in the evening they come home and the only thing they need to do is count the money. There is no such thing...again there is no such thing.
Every EA in real trading (not in backtests) will sooner or later create drawdowns in your account were you will look to losses of 30%-50% And that has nothing to do with trading. People who start with 1000$ don't realy bother to lose 500$. If you trade professionaly and you work with a couple hundred thousands of dollar you will not allow yourself to lose 50% of that money.
Many EA's will even burn your compleet account.
If you want to trade or earn money by trading and you don't have the time to look to charts and setups buy yourself some stocks and forget about FX.
What I say sounds maybe hard or some will say arrogant but my intentions are sincere and well ment. But there is not soft way to explain this.
Hundreds of thousands of people who only have a few thousands dollars dream every day to make a living out of trading on FX. Every day thousands of people need to quit because the money is gone and their dreams are shattered into pieces. Every day new people walk in with the same goals and the same dreams....
So learn how to become a REAL TRADER, not how to install an EA or rely on an EA or push some buttons based on some indicators that lign up.
As I say many times in my trading room. Learn a men how to fish and you will feed him for the rest of his life.

friendly regards...iGoR
iGoR,

Sound like I have a long way to go before learning this system. For what it may be worth to you, you are teaching or at the very least provoking thought for more newer traders than you may know.
What I am thinking is that people are looking for a quicker way to play catch up with the learning by having a sort of basic rule book to read so they can more effectivly get a grasp of how this works. With all your years in trading we have a rather large learning curve to get through but we will learn.

Thanks for what you are doing.

kevin
Hi FXiGoR,

I just download your indicators + TPL .

(t s r) by f x i g o r(fx-5min) and (t_s_r) by iGoR (fx-1min) . i have question , i should set (t s r) by f x i g o r(fx-5min) on 5M chart or i can use it on H1 chart too ?

thanks
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