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  • #321
  • Jun 4, 2023 6:09am Jun 4, 2023 6:09am
Quoting Danielesse87
{quote} I will try to give myself an answer on point 2. You consider the last attachment of DB the one on the bottom because that is the bottom of the Fibo. But I don't understand why the last SAR you consider the one below SAR. I see a thistle tag at 149.954
No, I don't think that's the right explanation either. I'm going to read again to find the answers, I don't want to be fed with a spoon
  • #322
  • Jun 4, 2023 6:42am Jun 4, 2023 6:42am
Quoting SeriTrade
{quote} My problem is i have difficulty in putting the puzzle together, can't see what is coming. I can only see bit after the event and that's of no use anymore. Anywhere, thank you for your encouragement. I will listern, make notes and practice and practice, practice....
Keep going and if you really get stuck and can't figure something out, then ask. The easiest way to communicate over the internet on a forum is via pictures, if you need something clarifying then post an image with annotations to show what you mean. You learn by watching before, after and during. Then you progress to being able to have a go at creating a plan. Start with the 'easier' setups, there are a handful to pick from. Then one day you will be able to tell what the market is going to do before the market does it, ie what the banks are going to do.
  • #323
  • Edited 8:34am Jun 4, 2023 6:44am | Edited 8:34am
Quoting Danielesse87
{quote} Hi Lusky There are some things in your plan that confuse me a little. If you don't mind, could you clarify? 1- Why on 1h 2h and 4h do you say that EMA is both (resistance and support)? In 2h I understand that the ROMAr/EMA cross is not yet confirmed and this makes EMA both resistance and support. But on 1h and 4h Romar is below EMA and EMA is below Purple so EMA should be only support. 2- Why on 2h you say last db at bottom and SAR attached below PSAR? I see db and SAR together at 149.954 3- Why on 4h you say that PASR is not locked in still...
My plan was for market open Friday bar / 17:00 ET Thursday, which is the time zone I live in. EMA is support for the 4 horseman / Parabolics trend, and resistance for ROMAR trend, I label this as both on my plan.
The DB SAR rules and tutorials Dana provided tells us where the market is going, the confluence for the move to the target also shows across the time frames as described in my plan. The H2 last DB is on bottom on 05-31-2023, next the SAR attached on top at ROMAR, then for Thursday morning news attached at bottom for a HL with a thistle price box at 148.684 retesting support showing as D1 SAR at PSAR the day before (look at your D1 here). You have an ABC triangle here and the breakout was going to be north, also shown in one or more tutorials by Dana. The ROMARs ARE "running through downtown central" as my plan shows as Dana taught. I listed a very important rule in my H4 notes here, which you will use over and over forever on the H2 for entries, go in the thread and dig that rule out along with the tutorial and it will go a long way in your efforts with this system.


As far as what you see the DB and SAR attached together at 149.954, the SAR was waiting on the DB to attach on top to finish the move together. Now, look at the confluence of 149.954 hit on the Daily......

And to answer your last question, it's a rule that is stated throughout the thread, and another hint to go dig it out and the explanations from Dana surrounding it.
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  • #324
  • Jun 4, 2023 7:17am Jun 4, 2023 7:17am
Quoting L1ghtning
{quote} Keep going and if you really get stuck and can't figure something out, then ask. The easiest way to communicate over the internet on a forum is via pictures, if you need something clarifying then post an image with annotations to show what you mean. You learn by watching before, after and during. Then you progress to being able to have a go at creating a plan. Start with the 'easier' setups, there are a handful to pick from. Then one day you will be able to tell what the market is going to do before the market does it, ie what the banks...
Thank you for your help. I will create plan and practice. I believe that's the best way for me to learn and know where my mistake are.
  • #325
  • Jun 4, 2023 11:55am Jun 4, 2023 11:55am
Asia is free of releases, but from Frankfurt through to mid morning London is loaded with lots of low impact EUR releases, which when grouped together do have an impact. Then in the afternoon is a USD high impact release. Plan ahead and slot that trade in with precision.

The above is from the UK time zone perspective.
  • #326
  • Jun 4, 2023 12:02pm Jun 4, 2023 12:02pm
Quoting Lusky
{quote} My plan was for market open Friday bar / 17:00 ET Thursday, which is the time zone I live in. EMA is support for the 4 horseman / Parabolics trend, and resistance for ROMAR trend, I label this as both on my plan. The DB SAR rules and tutorials Dana provided tells us where the market is going, the confluence for the move to the target also shows across the time frames as described in my plan. The H2 last DB is on bottom on 05-31-2023, next the SAR attached on top at ROMAR, then for Thursday morning news attached at bottom for a HL with a...
sorry Lusky! I need to read better next time
  • #327
  • Jun 4, 2023 2:08pm Jun 4, 2023 2:08pm
Quoting Baje
{quote} I've read all of it. I believe you were alluding to Ranging with your observation.
Ok Lusky! Having read your trading plan and comments to D87, I now see what you were alluding to with your observation of the H4 ROMAR going through the City Center. I was focused on the market RANGING past ROMAR because of ROMAR running through the market on the H4. However, the bigger picture is the 4HM in trend would have push the market past ROMAR Resistance and that is what I missed. Thanks!
  • #328
  • Jun 4, 2023 2:38pm Jun 4, 2023 2:38pm
I am not going to be at home for today's market opening, so here is my Plan for the EJ. The H2 will be in a fully blown UP-TREND when the market opens. With the H1 retracing off of a swing High and looking for Support, I will be looking to go LONG off of an H1 Support hit of either EMA or the PARABOLIC. The Daily is UP in consolidation due to EMA still being Support having not yet crossed PURPLE. Comments will be appreciated.
  • #329
  • Jun 4, 2023 3:38pm Jun 4, 2023 3:38pm
Quoting Lusky
Attached is my trading plan for EJ market open Friday. Lusky {image}
I did some research in the original thread to figure out what "thru downtown central" means. For the moment I have not yet found a good explanation for me. I guess this was an important element/factor for you to say that Romar would not hold resistance. There are so many things I still don't know and we don't know. But I'm well aware that this is a 6 month (and more) learning journey. I really need to consolidate what I've already studied and then continue reading the original thread. There's a lot of gold still to be mined over there
  • #330
  • Jun 4, 2023 4:13pm Jun 4, 2023 4:13pm
Quoting Danielesse87
{quote} I did some research in the original thread to figure out what "thru downtown central" means. For the moment I have not yet found a good explanation for me. I guess this was an important element/factor for you to say that Romar would not hold resistance. There are so many things I still don't know and we don't know. But I'm well aware that this is a 6 month (and more) learning journey. I really need to consolidate what I've already studied and then continue reading the original thread. There's a lot of gold still to be mined over there
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post14448260

Visual difference between Romar centre and Romar not centre ie downtown central through Purple

You have got to get the difference sorted because this is one thing that will bite you and cause your trade to hit SL. Knowing when you can use Romar not centre to your advantage and when you can't.
  • #331
  • Jun 4, 2023 4:28pm Jun 4, 2023 4:28pm
Quoting Lusky
{quote} My plan was for market open Friday bar / 17:00 ET Thursday, which is the time zone I live in. EMA is support for the 4 horseman / Parabolics trend, and resistance for ROMAR trend, I label this as both on my plan. The DB SAR rules and tutorials Dana provided tells us where the market is going, the confluence for the move to the target also shows across the time frames as described in my plan. The H2 last DB is on bottom on 05-31-2023, next the SAR attached on top at ROMAR, then for Thursday morning news attached at bottom for a HL with a...
I think I see the confusion.

"The ROMARs ARE "running through downtown central" as my plan shows as Dana taught"

H4 did have Romar centre. H2 did not have Romar centre on Friday as in your image.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...07#post9511007
  • #332
  • Jun 4, 2023 4:31pm Jun 4, 2023 4:31pm
Meaning the risk free entries had to have 40 to H2 Romar resistance until Purple crossed Romar which happened with the EMA retrace on the London candle for entry, but unfortunately upcoming releases stopped this entry.

Romar not centre will stop the market in a heartbeat, even if you know the next DB location etc, if you don't have 40 + spread don't try it. I made that mistake a lot of times myself.
  • #333
  • Jun 4, 2023 4:49pm Jun 4, 2023 4:49pm
Quoting L1ghtning
{quote} I think I see the confusion. "The ROMARs ARE "running through downtown central" as my plan shows as Dana taught" H4 did have Romar centre. H2 did not have Romar centre on Friday as in your image. https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...07#post9511007

H2 ROMAR was qualified as "center" Friday's open BAR. You can manually back test and see if you missed in real time. And the bigger picture goes beyond the Daily as my plan states below Final notes covering some basics on the W1 and MN.
  • #334
  • Jun 4, 2023 4:53pm Jun 4, 2023 4:53pm
Quoting L1ghtning
I just want to clarify one more thing from yesterday as I don't feel like I gave a thorough enough explanation. Romar was resistance and respected as resistance - it was not center. The completely risk free entry was the higher low after the final high impact USD release - TP was before Romar. There was the possibility with the release yesterday that Romar could have slid over EMA and kept the trend down with H2 DB up, however the gap was there in the bigger picture for 40 pips because of the scenario on the bigger picture. Had the bigger picture...
In this post you have "The completely risk free entry was the higher low after the final high impact USD release - TP was before Romar." This is not true, there were only 26 pips up to H2 ROMAR, but nonetheless it wasn't an issue in the current market condition and the H2 upper BB was the market target showing at the Daily Bar open, could be seen as D1 Purple / 23.6 for confluence.
  • #335
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:05pm Jun 4, 2023 5:05pm
I know you are trying to explain this concept to us but honestly I am very confused.
What I understand is:
Romar not center = less then 40 pips from entry to Romar
Romar center = at last 40 pips from entry to Romar
If this is correct, I don't understand why Lusky says in his plan that Romar is running thru downtown central (so Romar centre) and will not hold resistance.
I also don't understand why on friday 4h had Romar center and 2h didn't have Romar centre. What I see is that at the daily open both were less than 40 pips.
Surely it's me who can't understand so I truly apologize.
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  • #336
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:10pm Jun 4, 2023 5:10pm
Quoting Danielesse87
I know you are trying to explain this concept to us but honestly I am very confused. What I understand is: Romar not center = less then 40 pips from entry to Romar Romar center = at last 40 pips from entry to Romar If this is correct, I don't understand why Lusky says in his plan that Romar is running thru downtown central (so Romar centre) and will not hold resistance. I also don't understand why on friday 4h had Romar center and 2h didn't have Romar centre. What I see is that at the daily open both were less than 40 pips. Surely it's me who can't...
they were both less than 40 pips, look a couple posts above where I pointed out that they were only 26 pips where he said there were 40. That should help clear it up as I can see you see it correctly by your post now. That is exactly why when he first made that post I asked about what market he was referring to because it's not true for EJ, but he replied said he was referring to EJ so I just think maybe he was clicked on one of his other markets he had charted for while writing up some of his explanation to you. However he still continues to say H2 ROMAR doesn't qualify as "center" but it did / does.
  • #337
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:17pm Jun 4, 2023 5:17pm
Quoting Lusky
{quote} In this post you have "The completely risk free entry was the higher low after the final high impact USD release - TP was before Romar." This is not true, there were only 26 pips up to H2 ROMAR, but nonetheless it wasn't an issue in the current market condition and the H2 upper BB was the market target showing at the Daily Bar open, could be seen as D1 Purple / 23.6 for confluence.
This is simply not correct, open H2 candle with well over 40 pips to H2 Romar not being centre is a completely risk free trade, end of.
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  • #338
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:21pm Jun 4, 2023 5:21pm
Quoting Lusky
{quote} they were both less than 40 pips, look a couple posts above where I pointed out that they were only 26 pips where he said there were 40. That should help clear it up as I can see you see it correctly by your post now. That is exactly why when he first made that post I asked about what market he was referring to because it's not true for EJ, but he replied said he was referring to EJ so I just think maybe he was clicked on one of his other markets he had charted for while writing up some of his explanation to you. However he still continues...
I believe lightning is not referring to USD news on Friday but USD news on Thursday when he wrote that.

Ok so we clarified that on both 2h and 4h there was no 40 pips for Friday open. So to you, "running downtown central" means there is no 40 pips right? So why do you say that "romar will not hold resistance"? What is the relationship between the 2 things?
  • #339
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:22pm Jun 4, 2023 5:22pm
Quoting Lusky
{quote} H2 ROMAR was qualified as "center" Friday's open BAR. You can manually back test and see if you missed in real time. And the bigger picture goes beyond the Daily as my plan states below Final notes covering some basics on the W1 and MN.
I'm afraid sir if you believe H2 Romar to be centre and running downtown central (as Dana like to put it) in the following image, then you need to go back and check. This is simply not true and is causing confusion with beginners. I even linked Dana's teaching to the exact same scenario a few comments above

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  • #340
  • Jun 4, 2023 5:35pm Jun 4, 2023 5:35pm
Quoting Danielesse87
I know you are trying to explain this concept to us but honestly I am very confused. What I understand is: Romar not center = less then 40 pips from entry to Romar Romar center = at last 40 pips from entry to Romar If this is correct, I don't understand why Lusky says in his plan that Romar is running thru downtown central (so Romar centre) and will not hold resistance. I also don't understand why on friday 4h had Romar center and 2h didn't have Romar centre. What I see is that at the daily open both were less than 40 pips. Surely it's me who can't...
I hope this helps you to see the visual differences

Romar centre - its running right through Purple down low on your chart (forget its H4, just focus on the visual):

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Romar centre - its running right through Purple at the top of the chart
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Romar centre - its running right through Purple at the bottom of the chart
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Romar not centre:
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If Romar is center you are ok to enter - it will be broken

If Romar is not centre, you need 40 pips for the gap. If your TP is past Romar not centre in certain scenario's, the market will bounce right off Romar and take you to SL. Until you know which scenario's off by heart, respect the gap
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