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Save your EA from evil Microsoft!!!

  • #1
  • First Post: Nov 21, 2006 11:50pm Nov 21, 2006 11:50pm
Why is Microsoft evil? Many people have many reasons... but usually it is related to greed, money, domination, something like that.

But to me it is just because of their stupid idiotic design decisions. The "evil factor" is because they seem to want their users to suffer. That's downright sadistic.

Like this one.

Ever have your WinXP computer reboot mysteriously in the night?

It's bad enough on your regular computer... let alone on a computer running an EA.

So if you have WinXP Pro, then you can avoid mysterious reboots like this by following the instructions #2 at the link below:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

If you have WinXP Home, seems like there are some comments for you by the users at that site.
  • #2
  • Nov 21, 2006 11:58pm Nov 21, 2006 11:58pm
Quoting ycomp
Why is Microsoft evil? Many people have many reasons... but usually it is related to greed, money, domination, something like that.

But to me it is just because of their stupid idiotic design decisions. The "evil factor" is because they seem to want their users to suffer. That's downright sadistic.

Like this one.

Ever have your WinXP computer reboot mysteriously in the night?

It's bad enough on your regular computer... let alone on a computer running an EA.

So if you have WinXP Pro, then you can avoid mysterious reboots like this by following the instructions #2 at the link below:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

If you have WinXP Home, seems like there are some comments for you by the users at that site.
I disable autoupdate. Simple. Thats why i mostly use OSX but sadly my MT4 only runs on Windows.
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #3
  • Nov 22, 2006 1:57am Nov 22, 2006 1:57am
my windows setup used to crash nearly everynight even when i turned off all overnight jobs (updates, scanning etc). when i switched to linux then the problem stopped on the same hardware.

ironically since i run xo as a VM its been a hell of a lot more stable than it used to be.

btw, mt4 runs under linux no problem. see if you can find a windows emulator for mac.
  • #4
  • Nov 22, 2006 2:41am Nov 22, 2006 2:41am
Quoting Isotonic
my windows setup used to crash nearly everynight even when i turned off all overnight jobs (updates, scanning etc). when i switched to linux then the problem stopped on the same hardware.

ironically since i run xo as a VM its been a hell of a lot more stable than it used to be.

btw, mt4 runs under linux no problem. see if you can find a windows emulator for mac.
Window emulator exist and im using it now. But sadly, as you use them so as the windows stupidity! It goes together. Meaning, even on MAC when window is emulates, it totally behaves like a real window!
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #5
  • Nov 22, 2006 2:44am Nov 22, 2006 2:44am
Quoting ycomp
Why is Microsoft evil? Many people have many reasons... but usually it is related to greed, money, domination, something like that.

But to me it is just because of their stupid idiotic design decisions. The "evil factor" is because they seem to want their users to suffer. That's downright sadistic.

Like this one.

Ever have your WinXP computer reboot mysteriously in the night?

It's bad enough on your regular computer... let alone on a computer running an EA.

So if you have WinXP Pro, then you can avoid mysterious reboots like this by following the instructions #2 at the link below:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

If you have WinXP Home, seems like there are some comments for you by the users at that site.
What is the problem?
Just disable automatic updates or set it to manual.

If Microsoft is so evil why don't you do something about it?
  • #6
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:15am Nov 22, 2006 3:15am
I don't think Microsoft is evil. I sincerely doubt they WANT their users to suffer. They want their customers to not suffer so they'll continue buying their products.

Anyway, disable autoupdates. It's not difficult.
  • #7
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:19am Nov 22, 2006 3:19am
[quote=24hincome]What is the problem?
Just disable automatic updates or set it to manual.
If Microsoft is so evil why don't you do something about it?[/
QUOTE]

That is lame!! Thats why we are discussing it, to minimise the problems! Fight them? With wat army? Thats why we address the issue. Pls!
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #8
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:35am Nov 22, 2006 3:35am
[quote=OrangeRoshan]
Quoting 24hincome
What is the problem?
Just disable automatic updates or set it to manual.
If Microsoft is so evil why don't you do something about it?[/
QUOTE]

That is lame!! Thats why we are discussing it, to minimise the problems! Fight them? With wat army? Thats why we address the issue. Pls!
But do something constructive about it instead of just complaining..
Or change OS.
Simple
  • #9
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:38am Nov 22, 2006 3:38am
[quote=24hincome]
Quoting OrangeRoshan

But do something constructive about it instead of just complaining..
Or change OS.
Simple
Check my post, thats what i suggested also, but spare the scarsm to the moderator. Be nice. Thats what i mean.
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #10
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:42am Nov 22, 2006 3:42am
[quote=OrangeRoshan]
Quoting 24hincome

Check my post, thats what i suggested also, but spare the scarsm to the moderator. Be nice. Thats what i mean.
But was is the use of complaining at Microsoft?
There is a simple solution.
If you don't want automatic updates you can disable them.
It is as easy as that.

And if you think MS is evil then you should run Linux or some other OS.

Don't understand why everyone is complaining...? But it is easier to complain instead of doing something constructive.

Thanks
  • #11
  • Nov 22, 2006 3:48am Nov 22, 2006 3:48am
lol, microsoft wants their users to be safe. thats why firewall is enabled by default, pop-up blocking on Internet Explorer and automatic updates. Why do you need updates? To get your security holes fixed from malicius virus and spyware outbreaks.

turn it all off and the reboots will be the least to worry about compared to the missing cash from all of your bank accounts.

cheers.

PS - as somebody said already, set the updates to manual and install on weekend manually or whenever you can.
  • #12
  • Nov 22, 2006 10:33am Nov 22, 2006 10:33am
ok, yes autoupdate is not disabled. However autoupdate is a useful feature. It downloads the updates in the background. Therefore when I am ready to reboot the computer, I don't have to wait for updates to download. For instance, I don't mind rebooting Friday night or Sat.

Most people using a PC probably don't want to drop everything just to reboot and install updates.

It is stupid that the computer would reboot itself automatically. Or without the user agreeing to this behaviour first.

I was just being overly dramatic after having my computer reboot automatically and messing up all my EAs.

The point of this thread is to show people who are unaware of this method of solving the problem, how to do it. If they want to do it this way.

About Linux, Mac or whatnot. I installed Linux many times. I have nothing against them. But they are useless for me. I don't need to run a web server. I need a Desktop. And they all have crummy GUIs. Plus what good is it if I have to run my software in an emulator?

The Mac GUI looks ok, but they seem to have overlooked one thing: usability. Unless there is some option I am unaware of, it seems that the minimize, close, etc. buttons are all the left side of the screen! I suspect Steve Jobs is probably left handed. This is very inconvenient placement for a right-handed person (i.e. the vast majority of the population). I have nothing against such placement, I'm all for helping the lefties... but there should be an option to move it the right side for righties. I asked my Mac friend and he doesn't know of such an option. So if it exists, then I would find nothing much wrong with the mac UI. But that still doesn't solve the problem of lack of software.

One cool thing about linux is there are no drive letters. That is a more flexible way to do things.
  • #13
  • Nov 22, 2006 10:48am Nov 22, 2006 10:48am
Piccolo, I have a dumb question, How do I set my updates to manual. In a moment of weakness I set the updates to automatic and I cannot seem to remember how to change it back. I just want to do updates at the end of each day at my schedule, not Microsoft's. I am running XP

Thanks Scott


Quoting piccolo
lol, microsoft wants their users to be safe. thats why firewall is enabled by default, pop-up blocking on Internet Explorer and automatic updates. Why do you need updates? To get your security holes fixed from malicius virus and spyware outbreaks.

turn it all off and the reboots will be the least to worry about compared to the missing cash from all of your bank accounts.

cheers.

PS - as somebody said already, set the updates to manual and install on weekend manually or whenever you can.
  • #14
  • Nov 22, 2006 10:54am Nov 22, 2006 10:54am
Quoting Isotonic
btw, mt4 runs under linux no problem.
Isotonic You use some Win emulator under Linux ? How should I run MT under Linux, some sugestion please.


Andrew
  • #15
  • Nov 22, 2006 10:54am Nov 22, 2006 10:54am
Quoting smjones
Piccolo, I have a dumb question, How do I set my updates to manual. In a moment of weakness I set the updates to automatic and I cannot seem to remember how to change it back. I just want to do updates at the end of each day at my schedule, not Microsoft's. I am running XP

Thanks Scott
open Control Panel ("Start" -> and then there should be the control panel somewhere). Then choose "Automatic Updates" and configure it how you want it, everything else is self explanatory. Hope it helps.

My PC goes for months without reboots.. it is not just microsoft.. you have to have a good hardware and proper drivers installed, too.
  • #16
  • Nov 22, 2006 11:05am Nov 22, 2006 11:05am
Thanks, the reboot that bothers me is when MS updates and then puts a pop up window that says restart and then it counts down and if I do not click no quick enough, it does the restart automatically. That of course shuts everything I have running down.



Quoting piccolo
open Control Panel ("Start" -> and then there should be the control panel somewhere). Then choose "Automatic Updates" and configure it how you want it, everything else is self explanatory. Hope it helps.

My PC goes for months without reboots.. it is not just microsoft.. you have to have a good hardware and proper drivers installed, too.
  • #17
  • Nov 22, 2006 11:17am Nov 22, 2006 11:17am
sorry i couldn't let this go without comment. Have you installed linux lately? You have a choice of two desktop managers (Gnome or KDE) that are just as good as windows, if not better. More customisable as well.

Yes the logical file system is better than the crummy physical drive letters you get with winblows...:

Quoting ycomp
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About Linux, Mac or whatnot. I installed Linux many times. I have nothing against them. But they are useless for me. I don't need to run a web server. I need a Desktop. And they all have crummy GUIs. Plus what good is it if I have to run my software in an emulator?

One cool thing about linux is there are no drive letters. That is a more flexible way to do things.
  • #18
  • Nov 22, 2006 11:18am Nov 22, 2006 11:18am
ahhh....the windows "crazy reboot" feature after every update...you gotta love microsoft. 30 years on and they can't design a system that can truly update realtime...

Quoting smjones
Thanks, the reboot that bothers me is when MS updates and then puts a pop up window that says restart and then it counts down and if I do not click no quick enough, it does the restart automatically. That of course shuts everything I have running down.
  • #19
  • Nov 22, 2006 11:19am Nov 22, 2006 11:19am
see this thread:

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ighlight=linux

Quoting Andrew_e
Isotonic You use some Win emulator under Linux ? How should I run MT under Linux, some sugestion please.


Andrew
  • #20
  • Nov 22, 2006 12:33pm Nov 22, 2006 12:33pm
I noticed the "crazy reboot" quite by accident one nite when i left my desktop PC's speakers on after heading to bed. Then about 3am i hear the tel tale little MS gingle. So much for my MT4 charts! LOL. Anyway, what i did the next morning is set the autoupdates to Saturday 3am. . .a time that will not mess with my trade stations. The notebook on my nite stand that i trade with during the London as i sleep i have set similarly.

: ) Thom
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