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  • #1
  • First Post: May 20, 2023 9:43am May 20, 2023 9:43am
I've learned that weekly 10-30 EMA crossover is used in stock trading as a guide and a buy signal. You want to buy stocks when the crossover happens on the weekly time frame. I thought I can use it as a filter. To go long only pairs that are above 10-30 EMA on the weekly, and vice versa. To short only if a pair is below these EMAs.

To this, I'd like to add one more filter, daily 200 EMA.

If the price is above 10-30 EMAs on the weekly, and above 200 EMA on the daily, I'd only look for long opportunities. If the price is below these EMAs, I'd only look for short trades.

I guess this makes sense if you're a trend trader, but would like to see if someone can backtest this. Can someone add these parameters to some strategies they already use and backtest it? I'm curious to find out what the result might be.
  • #2
  • May 20, 2023 10:11am May 20, 2023 10:11am
Quoting Giucca
I've learned that weekly 10-30 EMA crossover is used in stock trading as a guide and a buy signal. You want to buy stocks when the crossover happens on the weekly time frame. I thought I can use it as a filter. To go long only pairs that are above 10-30 EMA on the weekly, and vice versa. To short only if a pair is below these EMAs. To this, I'd like to add one more filter, daily 200 EMA. If the price is above 10-30 EMAs on the weekly, and above 200 EMA on the daily, I'd only look for long opportunities. If the price is below these EMAs, I'd only...
To be honest my dear, if you use any type of moving average, you can get 100% profitable signals if some circumstances appear. But it's mostly for scalping. But yes, weekly chart can be used. No one can say "scalping weekly chart is not possible". It is.. Yeeeees... It's not really scalping but... Hope you got the point. Never really backtested it, but I saw it multiple times I'm realtime.
  • #3
  • May 20, 2023 10:20am May 20, 2023 10:20am
In my opinion moving averages on high TF are almost delayed; more useful are the candles. Then in low TF (M1, M5, M15) you can use whatever moving average. But you have always to wait for a pullback on them.
  • #4
  • May 20, 2023 11:52am May 20, 2023 11:52am
Quoting flashpaul
Secondo me le medie mobili su TF alti sono quasi ritardate; pił utili sono le candele. Quindi in TF basso (M1, M5, M15) puoi utilizzare qualsiasi media mobile. Ma devi sempre aspettare un pullback su di loro.
You can use always ema 30 e 10 in all TF, but, again you have to wait for a pullback in the TF in which you are trading.
  • #5
  • May 20, 2023 1:29pm May 20, 2023 1:29pm
Just to make it clear (and to reply to all the comments above) - I'm not going to use these EMAs as the only entry signal. I just want to use them as a filter.

I trade price action and chart patterns. Ideally, I'm looking for horizontal breakouts/breakdowns. These EMAs would be used only as a filter - I just want to be sure that I'm trading in the direction of a main trend.

I noticed chart patterns fail more often when they produce signals that are not in tune with 200 EMA. For example, if there is an ascending triangle well below 200 EMA, and a breakout of the upper boundary happens, the price will start going up but eventually will reverse before it meets its target (which is based on the triangle's height).

Long story short, IMO, every strategy will produce better results if it you take only signals that are in the direction of the main trend.
  • #6
  • May 20, 2023 1:47pm May 20, 2023 1:47pm
Quoting Giucca
I've learned that weekly 10-30 EMA crossover is used in stock trading as a guide and a buy signal. You want to buy stocks when the crossover happens on the weekly time frame. I thought I can use it as a filter. To go long only pairs that are above 10-30 EMA on the weekly, and vice versa. To short only if a pair is below these EMAs. To this, I'd like to add one more filter, daily 200 EMA. If the price is above 10-30 EMAs on the weekly, and above 200 EMA on the daily, I'd only look for long opportunities. If the price is below these EMAs, I'd only...
all this moving average are delayed and they are flowed logic and, they are programmed to make you fail
Thobad
  • #7
  • May 20, 2023 2:30pm May 20, 2023 2:30pm
Quoting Tobad
{quote} all this moving average are delayed and they are flowed logic and, they are programmed to make you fail
Not sure if you're right. Moving averages can show you trends clearly. They help you to see more clearly if a market is trending or is in a range. I don't use them for entry signals but for something like If the price is above 200 MA, then only long. After 10 years of trading, I'm certain of one thing, fighting a trend is never a good idea.
  • #8
  • May 20, 2023 3:11pm May 20, 2023 3:11pm
try it then
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  • #9
  • May 22, 2023 2:11am May 22, 2023 2:11am
Quoting Giucca
{quote} Not sure if you're right. Moving averages can show you trends clearly. They help you to see more clearly if a market is trending or is in a range. I don't use them for entry signals but for something like If the price is above 200 MA, then only long. After 10 years of trading, I'm certain of one thing, fighting a trend is never a good idea.
I never see profitable trader I mean profitable ones, relay on MA because they lag behind the market conditions
Thobad
  • #10
  • Jun 15, 2023 1:04pm Jun 15, 2023 1:04pm
Quoting Tobad
{quote} I never see profitable trader I mean profitable ones, relay on MA because they lag behind the market conditions
We all know about the lag on indicators and EMA is one of them. But who indicator will be functioning in same time for live trading? even candles you need to wait for closing to see a pattern.
The point of this guys is to have the EMA's for trend direction, that is it! perhaps he will use SMC to enter, but he will enter according to the trend, not against it.
  • #11
  • Jun 17, 2023 5:45pm Jun 17, 2023 5:45pm
Quoting Ulisesrocker
{quote} We all know about the lag on indicators and EMA is one of them. But who indicator will be functioning in same time for live trading? even candles you need to wait for closing to see a pattern. The point of this guys is to have the EMA's for trend direction, that is it! perhaps he will use SMC to enter, but he will enter according to the trend, not against it.
Correct, they are confusing a market or price CONDITION for an entry signal, anyone entering a trade will want to be in a trend correct for the direction of their trade.

What do you see here; anything that could be traded?

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Metatrader 5 chart, mostly free indicators

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It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #12
  • Jun 22, 2023 5:54am Jun 22, 2023 5:54am
Quoting Erebus
{quote} Correct, they are confusing a market or price CONDITION for an entry signal, anyone entering a trade will want to be in a trend correct for the direction of their trade. What do you see here; anything that could be traded? {image} Metatrader 5 chart, mostly free indicators {image}


pure price action
Thobad
  • #13
  • Apr 14, 2024 10:09am Apr 14, 2024 10:09am
Quoting oo7rai
try it then {file}
Hi, would it possible to modify the 3 ema crossover indicator you posted above so that it generates signals only under these conditions:
Buy signal: signal must be generated when the 10 and 30 emas crossover, i.e., the 10 ema breaks out from below the 30 ema, but signal to be generated ONLY if the 200 ema is below both the 10 ema and the 30 ema. No signal to be generated if the 200 ema is above the 10 and the 30 emas.
Sell signal: signal must be generated when the 10 and 30 emas crossover, i.e., the 10 ema breaks out from above the 30 ema, but signal to be generated ONLY if the 200 ema is above both the 10 ema and the 30 ema. No signal to be generated if the 200 ema is below the 10 and 30 ema.
I've posted images with examples below.
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  • #14
  • Last Post: Nov 20, 2025 3:51am Nov 20, 2025 3:51am
Quoting sev132
{quote} Hi, would it possible to modify the 3 ema crossover indicator you posted above so that it generates signals only under these conditions: Buy signal: signal must be generated when the 10 and 30 emas crossover, i.e., the 10 ema breaks out from below the 30 ema, but signal to be generated ONLY if the 200 ema is below both the 10 ema and the 30 ema. No signal to be generated if the 200 ema is above the 10 and the 30 emas. Sell signal: signal must be generated when the 10 and 30 emas crossover, i.e., the 10 ema breaks out from above the 30 ema,...
any luck with this
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