Objective Thinking And Trading

This is just more of your bullshit, Peter. Let me get this straight: you score the Roland Berger Mega Trends components, then bring up a 1M chart and start trading, and make 5% each day? You don't consider charts because that would be subjective, and instead you trade off Roland Berger? When I say bullshit, that is my conclusion based on critical thinking skills. BTW, do you have permission from the good people at Roland Berger to use their trademarked material in your stupid thread?

But to be serious, you say nothing about forex trading, and instead just posture and insinuate. That is all you do, and that is your FF persona. The big expert who speaks in generalities but never specifics. Peter, that is the opposite of objective thinking. Right? Show some of your professional forex analysis, the specific, objective data and information you look at, the objective insight that your deep and successful experience has come to know. To be objective is to be exact and specific, and in spite of your never-freaking-ending comments on your superior thinking skills, you fail every time to product specifics.

From your thread here, you have demonstrated that you are a mile wide and 1/4 inch deep.

If you say so.

If you say so.

The concept of applying big picture views, is not to try and play with the big boys (whoever they are). It is to appreciate the concepts used BY larger participants and your society as a whole. Then apply the layers of society to gauge how things sit. So it is not about the pics I showed, it is about the concept they present and the use of that concept toward real life.

There are MANY ways to use and access a 1min chart. After all, a 1min chart is just a time piece.

A person will appreciate the magnitude of this by thinking about how any trend in society begins. Eg - fashion brands do not just sporadically materialize out of nothing. They must begin somewhere.

So as you can see from the recent poor attempts by members to attack this thread and the posted details, one must consider that again, what I am referring to is real and true and verifiable ...... beyond a mere price chart and the opinion of me or other people.

Having a chip on your shoulder is your problem to deal with GeFX. But in any case, you're only wasting your time, not mine. You still don't grasp the dynamics in play here do you. The more silliness you post the more opportunities it offers me to show OTHER PEOPLE how to better themselves, meanwhile you're stuck. Rather ironic wouldn't you say. So I will choose to use you as a living breathing example for some very interesting life lessons. Thank you for volunteering.

This thread is to get people started on many things, not to merely spit out answers so people don't have to do any work for themselves. You would know this and understand WHY this is important IF you actually traded anything real.

Happy learning

Peter

Gamblers, speculators, investors and traders get themselves in trouble because they choose to be single minded. Operating this way it's very easy to be blindsided.

That's why I laugh when people like "GeFX" try to make out I am this or that. You ACTUALLY think it's about me and "trading" and the spectacle of being right or not. Hihihi.

It has nothing to do with me, this site or YOU. So as I said, whoever you are in real life, you lost before you began. Not because I am superior but because to me, you're not even there.

So ...... glad tidings.

Peter

Your last post is an excellent example of your incoherent bullshit. Let's take a closer look at just the first few opening sentences.

"The concept of applying big picture views, is not to try and play with the big boys (whoever they are). It is to appreciate the concepts used BY larger participants and your society as a whole."
First, Peter, the big boys in the forex are the tier 1 banks, but you would not know that because you know nothing about the forex. Now, you state that the concept of applying your big picture view is to appreciate the concepts used by large participants, but you just admitted that your do not know who the big boys/participants are. But you know the big picture they use when you don't even understand who they are. Is it the concept of applying or the actual big picture that is important in your world? Perhaps you could explain how the bankers' view of your big picture of currency valuation and supply and demand overlaps with society as a whole (I'm sure you can give a few examples of how society big picture and banker big picture overlap to move the E$ today. Just a few examples.

Then apply the layers of society to gauge how things sit. So it is not about the pics I showed, it is about the concept they present and the use of that concept toward real life.
Apply layers of society? Where did that come from? How things sit? What things? How does any of this relate to price action on your 1M chart? You have introduced this big picture idea, without any reference to your past posts (which you stole from a very reputable consulting firm), assumed a connection to the forex market participants (which you are clueless about) without a single reference to why the unknown-to-you market participants would be interested in your big picture, then introduced society as having some interest in this whole unknown mess, then introduced (for some reason) that society needs to be divided into layers (not sure the metrics your empty head has used to do this layers), and that somehow none of that is important buy only the concept of that gets used towards real life (what the hell does that mean? why would anyone care what the means?).

Peter, that is just part of your opening paragraph. None of this is objective. It is a total failure of objective thinking. You do not use objective analytics, present clear data, present a method to explain your conclusions, etc. There is no sign of objective thinking here at all. It is the ramblings of a confused and intellectually vacuous poser. This is your persona, fake and fraudulent. Of course you will now dodge any responsibility to explain this crap. After all, in your persona, you're just a big picture guy, right?

All you, the real reader, needs to do is design and create your own society system/market schematic based on money, people and debt. Once you start doing this, as you go, you can see how everything fits together and how the chumps on silly websites like this one, talk a lot of rubbish. Follow the money, follow the people from all walks of life in society, follow the nature of and impact of debt. THIS is what every money divisional system is base on these days. If you doubt then go and do your research thoroughly. THEN you will have no need for the losers on these sites who claim to know more than you.

So .... GeFX.....If you say Billy-bob. But a rather quick and thorough online research study, will show and thus prove what I am saying is true and real. I advocate for the person, not the schmucks around who play pretend.

I must say YOUR FF credibility stock must be falling at an astronomical rate by now. You see, "my stock" never required anyone's approval or "thumbs up" or tick of approval..... so it was never in jeopardy. I live and operate by MY standards not someone else's. So in real life you must be just another deadbeat 'person of society' mustn't you. So again, it's not about superiority, it's about doing one's research thoroughly. YES yes I know you're really just here to stir up trouble because you feel 'assaulted'. Booohooo lassie.

So as per usual, instead of losing my cool with you, I'll let you continue to feed me more and more opportunities to let people know how to get around people like YOU. Get around you, get around the brokers, get around the deadshits that inhabit the internet and call it home. YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT do you. You shovel, I bury you.

All you, the real reader, needs to do is design and create your own society system/market schematic based on money, people and debt. Once you start doing this, as you go, you can see how everything fits together and how the chumps on silly websites like this one, talk a lot of rubbish. Follow the money, follow the people from all walks of life in society, follow the nature of and impact of debt. THIS is what every money divisional system is base on these days. If you doubt then go and do your research thoroughly. THEN you will have no need for the losers on these sites who claim to know more than you.

See, GeFX, you have no impact on me or what goes on here. Only the dimwitted and daft will follow you and what you say and think.....even if merely out of spite or something else. Stupidity should never be glorified or followed.

Common sense is on my side, always. That is why you lose every time deary. Now you are just acting like a scorned little girl. Mmmmm, maybe you ARE a girl. Admittedly, I always assumed you're a boy. But maybe I've been wrong all along.

Happy trails

Peter

All you, the real reader, needs to do is design and create your own society system/market schematic based on money, people and debt. Once you start doing this, as you go, you can see how everything fits together and how the chumps on silly websites like this one, talk a lot of rubbish. Follow the money, follow the people from all walks of life in society, follow the nature of and impact of debt. THIS is what every money divisional system is base on these days. If you doubt then go and do your research thoroughly. THEN you will have no need for the losers on these sites who claim to know more than you.

The Forex marketplace is not an isolated island in the middle of the Atlantic ocean. Therefore it IS connected and interconnected to everything else in your society. If a person refuses to learn this and the other ABC's for themself, then everything that follows after that will not make any sense. This is why any person who genuinely wants to learn about these things must NEVER allow other people to interfere with your searching and research.

This thread is not about "answers". It is about speaking about the many things that others do not or will not. That's it. People must learn to master concept building first, otherwise, you will chase answers and learn nothing that is really yours. So as much as I'd love to rid the world of the deadbeats who plague our society now to make things easier for you, you need to create a blueprint. It is the only way to get past the true liars and frickin idiotic fools online who have rabid thinking and can't help themselves.

If you do not know what this is or how to do this .... that's what books and the internet is for. Learn and practice to stop using deadbeat personal standards and start rebuilding your own standards.

It's a very simple process - think about how serious you are about all this. After this, if you declare you are serious, set your mind to choosing to do this. After this, simply setup a written routine and then follow through every day. And keep yourself accountable. Very simple. SO SIMPLE that I think people underestimate how useful and enduring it is.

It's your life, so do something with it.


Peter

The full picture of everything going on around you does not come to your front door in a "story" - beginning, middle and end. Nor does it arrive in your hands in 'chronological order'. THIS is by design. Life has a wonderful way of making us prove our worthiness. I could explain everything I have learned and now know and understand to say GeFX, but this person, even before the present time and situation, showed me they have trouble losing control of an environment they do not know or understand. They forget that I have the right to disclose or not disclose whatever I choose to whom I choose at any time. This does not make someone a liar, it means I value more than just "letting the person get what they want". Perhaps I'm already aware that showing someone everything dos nothing for their learning. SO I know they and I would have issues in real life. Why? They don't think like me.

So the wheel continues.

People who cannot think on their own always end up seeking answers...... then seek to blame others for their misdoings. Interesting right. I think it is.


Peter

And so, it's not about mind games or being cryptic or lying ..... sometimes it's simply a case of one person seeing the ways people learn and others don't see it or ...... "choose to ignore it"........ and try to manipulate or worse, try to play the "victim". hihihihihi. You'll get no sympathy from me. Learn or don't learn ...... it's a choice that turns into follow through. As simple as that. No IQ test required. No lie detector test required.

In a marketplace where facts and figures offer little "security", if you have nothing else, you're screwed. Real trading is akin to driving a vehicle. There are indeed facts and information to help you, but real driving on the roads needs more from you. If you don't see the similarity then I'd stop trading until you DO understand this.

Peter

Have you ever wondered why there's so much "information and data" around now?

I did ....... MANY years ago, back when computers were REALLY becoming popularized. Back when IBM was still a great company. Then later, when the internet turned up, more and more information flooded us all. These days are not really very different, not IF you look at the bedrock layers. The same principle lessons apply -->

People. Money. Debt.

I love it when people want to argue this. I quickly know they haven't done their research thoroughly. Because common sense is this - You need an inhabitable world first. Then come the people. The people "create" money" and then want more (and other things) so then comes "credit / debt / usury". Other parts such as labor, resources etc all come later in the principle spectrum. Why? They must be incentivized otherwise people won't work and then be pushed into positions where they now "need" said product or service, in whatever form or format.

So, not ALL information you locate or try to assimilate, is going to give instant gratification. Not going to help you "make money" hehehehe. So in this case, you'll need a different context and priority list.

Take GeFX for eg. LOONG time ago, it would have been quicker and easier for them to simply admit they don't understand some things. Even quietly admit this. Then remain in the background and take their time and genuinely learn.

So what's the moral of this saga ?

I know I am a real person. WHO or what are you? And how real can you be?


Peter

Here we go again.

All you, the real reader, needs to do is design and create your own society system/market schematic based on money, people and debt.
Peter is suggesting that everyone create their own society system (what is a society system?) and a market schematic (that is a market diagram of some sort) that is based on money, people, and debt (apparently Peter read a book about the history of debt, and everyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that debt lead to the development of money, so everything he thinks about now includes debt). This nonsense is different from yesterday's nonsense, where we needed a big-picture view and then needed to layer society. It's important to note here that Peter wants you to believe he is doing all of this, and with this advanced perspective of the forex, he can open a 1M chart and make a 5% return every day.

Follow the money, follow the people from all walks of life in society, follow the nature of and impact of debt. THIS is what every money divisional system is base on these days.
Let's take a minute and think about what the hell a money divisional system means (I have a Masters in Economics and a Masters in International Finance, and have never come across this term). Peter is telling us that whatever it is, it consists of people from all walks of life, following the nature and impact debt (again, Peter's book on the history of debt gets noted here). Of course there is no connection between this bullshit and currency trading, so I'd recommend a hard pass on this line of work or thinking.

If you doubt then go and do your research thoroughly.
Peter, you've done the research and are trading this approach everyday for 5% daily gains. Can you give the real reader a hint on where to find some of most relevant research material? I'll take a pass on all of this meaningless work, since I have a currency valuation model that consists of none of the crap you've mentioned. The market structure and TA that exists in the forex market today has nothing to do with any of your ideas.

So .... GeFX.....If you say Billy-bob.
Nope, I have never said Billy-bob.

But a rather quick and thorough online research study, will show and thus prove what I am saying is true and real.
No Peter, what you are saying is pure crap. But what should be obvious by now to the real reader is that you have no idea what you are talking about. You know nothing about the forex market, or any other market for that matter. You are the last person on earth who should be giving advice on these topics. In addition, you know nothing about objective thinking, objective reality, or objective truth. You do a lot of typing/talking but say nothing. Your real readers should know by now that you are a mile wide and 1/4 inch deep (that means you are intellectually vacant).

This is a low point for Peter's low voltage thinking. None of this has anything with forex trading and has nothing to do with what is driving changes in currency valuations. Peter, I am embarrassed for you.

Peter, here is a place to start for you as you begin to learn something about the forex. The forex is a mechanism where a country, company or individual can exchange one nation's currency for another nation's currency. Currency exchange rates fluxuate because of changes in fundamental and technical analysis. The primary forex instruments are swaps, forwards, futures, options, and spot. If you can develop an understanding of how businesses use these instruments, the nature of these instruments, and how they are used, you might begin to understand how businesses use them to mitigate risks, and how that effort to mitigate risk can drive spot rates. Currency market structure (and therefore price ranges) are manipulated by the central banks and how these banks help their nations manage their economic potential. Peter, start with these things, and in a few years, you'll have the basis of understanding what is going on in the forex. Layers of society or money divisional systems are not part of forex trading.

Wouldn't this be a good time to admit that the 5% daily return claim is bullshit? Because you don't know anything about the forex. That much is crystal clear to the real readers.

EDIT: THANKS PETER, YOU FINALLY PUT ME ON IGNORE. I THINK BY NOW I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF TO "THE READERS" THAT YOU ARE A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME. YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED MORON AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. TO ALL 'THE READERS" WHO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE HERE: WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!! BYE PETER....SEE YOU AROUND FF!

EDIT 2: WOW, SO YOU THREATEN ME IN POST #516? YOU WANT TO PUT ME DOWN? YOU SEEM UNHINGED.

EDIT 3: SO AS OF POST #517, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO CHALLENGE YOU STUPID IDEAS AND POSTS? I GUESS SOMEONE SO LACKING IN EDUCATION NEEDS TO HIDE BEHIND THE IGNORE BUTTON. JUST MORE REASON TO AVOID THIS THREAD.

EDIT 4: OK PETER, I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN FULLY EXPOSED NOW. AGAIN, I'LL SEE YOU AROUND FF

EDIT 5: IN POST #520, PETER SAID : "5 instruments. 8 hrs trading. 1% per instrument. Now throw in whether you want to work correlated or uncorrelated and you have a simple approach to put to paper each and every day. In that 8hr period ANYWHERE within that day of 24hrs, if you cannot perform a 1% return on investment then you have no business trading, no matter how much you think you know." PETER, THIS IS PROOF THAT YOU ARE A LIAR. YOU CONTINUE TO CLAIM A 5% DAILY RETURN, AND YOU PROVIDE THE ABOVE COMMENT AS YOUR PROOF. IT'S JUST LOGICAL, RIGHT? YOU ARE A LIAR. YOU DON'T DO THIS. AND CLAIMING YOU DO ACHIEVE THIS LEVEL OF PERFORMACE IS INSULTING TO YOUR "REAL READERS". I'VE OUTLINED, USING LESS THAN A DOZEN SENTENSES FROM PETER'S POSTS, THAT HE IS A CLUELESS AND BRAINLESS PERSON. OBJECTIVE THINKING? I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.

Then I would say you wasted your time with your education. You live in a systemic and systematic WORLD. If I deposit monies into one account it can be collected somewhere else in the world. I can say this here and someone literally on the other side of the globe from where I sit, can read it.

The problem I have is "smart people" are really very stupid. In my experience the "more educated" you are the more unreal your understanding.

A person is not stupid, they just need to stop listening to "well educated brats" like you. To say that currencies and debt have no connection is asinine.

I'm not running a "classroom" here. So you can keep your pitiful education. It carries little weight in the real world.

It simply comes down to one thing - is the person tinkering with trading or serious? The approaches I use were around before you were pulling your dick in the shower. And before idiots like your kind hit the scene, always looking to muddy the waters so normal people cannot get past you. I've met your kind before. You're middle class employees and have the mindset to go with it. Your masters is a wand to wave but normal people cannot research a masters degree can they? They would have to go do it. And that usually costs a lot of money. So pork chops like you think you have some kind of advantage. You don't. It's all hot air. In fact, in my experience, realistically, your kind are at the greatest disadvantage. I will employ the person with real world experience EVERY TIME over schmucks with a piece of paper etc. If you isolate currencies you're a fool. If you swing your dick you will lose.

All I am doing is giving people a start. It's up to them if they persist or give up. It's their life.

You are the loser pal. Always. As I said in a former post, you're nothing.

Everything I have said here is researchable.

If I had my way in the flesh, I'd put put you down like a rabid dog. Economists are part of the problem with the economy, useless people who don't know anything about real things, except how to serve yourself.

So all your crap just shows the disparity between online crud and real life for people.

People like you should just take the pill and end it. Ease the suffering of normal people.

I have given you a chance to rethink things for yourself. But you're done.

May your kind rest in the ground.

Peter.

From now on this is a 'read only' thread. You post you're done.

Peter

PS - And people bitch about the concept of depopulation and forced sterility measures, hihihihihihi. It's not that there's too many people, it's just that the morons ruin it for everyone real.

If you "believe" over what you can seek out and then research for yourself, then you'll end up just a turd, just like GeFX. No vision or foresight, No real intelligence. It's up to you, it's your life.

It's not about me saying anything it's about you learning. So learn.

Peter

And thank you GeFX for all the activity here. People will learn and they will surpass you and there's nothing you can do about it. Poor sparrow.


Peter

Here is a simple example...

5 instruments. 8 hrs trading. 1% per instrument. Now throw in whether you want to work correlated or uncorrelated and you have a simple approach to put to paper each and every day. In that 8hr period ANYWHERE within that day of 24hrs, if you cannot perform a 1% return on investment then you have no business trading, no matter how much you think you know. As I said, common sense NOT personal logic.

Real people can think for themselves and will (eventually) find in their research, that central banks are NOT at the top of the food chain. That banks do NOT have the final say about currency markets. That currency has never operated independent of the system of money and debt. Therefore a person with common sense will find, that your learning should NOT stop with what poor excuses for "traders" such as GeFX are referring to. THAT IS THE POINT THAT MATTERS HERE.

This thread is not about saying the same things as these dickheads. YES they are dickheads, online and probably in real life too. They are closed minded and possess a self directive so they're only thinking about themself in everything they do. That much is obvious. It is the reason why they do not look at the whole picture and definitely do not speak "out of turn". The markets do not answer to the banks, be it central or other. This person chooses to leave out the other parts and wants people to simply follow their thinking which is known as the status quo. The fact that I can talk about other areas and their involvement, is key to seeing that most "traders" do not use what they deem to be irrelevant and unhelpful for them to "make money". But this is not real life. If it doesn't translate into the world around you then it is not real. THAT IS ANOTHER POINT HERE.

I do not speak in riddles. FACT - Fools want information for free but don't want there to be any cost to them at all.

I will choose the average everyday person off the street to tell me how the economy is doing over any ivy league educated moron.

Therefore as I have said many times, this thread is not about me. It is about what I have learned, experienced, researched. The fools on these sites who claim to know how to read and write obviously don't know how to, or are threatened by people who don't think as they do. The easiest way to trap traders is to tell them the same "story" over and over again until they either give up or submit. No PHD will save you there.

This thread is not about "making money", there's plenty of bullshit out there on that. Dickheads want you to agree with them and believe as they do and will use any tactics to override your option to do your own private research. So idiots with a collective mindset need to be avoided IF you actually want to learn something.

Do your own research and be thorough ...... is always my upmost suggestion.

"Give a grain of sand to a person and see what they do with it."


Happy learning and trading


Peter