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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 14, 2023 10:43am Feb 14, 2023 10:43am
Recently, maybe from a few months ago, on all my MT4 (I have 3 installed) I can only see those indicators that have ex4 and mq4 versions next to them. The ones that only have the ex4 version have become invisible through the navigation windows on MT4.

Although they still work flawlessly, but I cannot insert them into the new chart by dragging, when I need some of those indi...

There are 2 pictures of what mt4 shows, and what is actually in that folder, I marked the "Symbol changer" version of the indicator that I most used, and now it is unavailable from MT4 ...

Does anyone have an idea what has changed? I have been using MT4 for about 10 years, I have never heard of such a thing...
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  • #2
  • Feb 14, 2023 4:00pm Feb 14, 2023 4:00pm
Stupid question, but have you updated your "navigator" window?

Also have you compiled them yourself or do have them from the internet(compile from another MT4)?
Blindly following others will make you blind!
  • #3
  • Feb 14, 2023 11:52pm Feb 14, 2023 11:52pm
My PC is new, less than a year old, all three MT4s were installed at different times, downloaded from the site of different brokers, used refresh for indicators many times...

The only thing I transfer from the old MT4 buck-ups are the indicators, which I collected years ago, and which I rarely use anymore...

Are there too many files in the indicator folder, so it reads only those that are complete in a double version...
  • #4
  • Feb 15, 2023 12:24am Feb 15, 2023 12:24am
Ok, now I know what the problem is, I removed some 200 unnecessary files from the indicator folder for the start, now it works normally, the items I need have appeared again...
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  • #5
  • Feb 15, 2023 2:57am Feb 15, 2023 2:57am
Hi

I have been using MT4 and MT5 since a few years now. Recently I started trading full-time and need to open more chart windows with more and more indicators working on them. Sometimes I feel that the charts hang for a few seconds when switching timeframes. I also have both my laptops heating up quiet much and the fans are always on even when the air conditioner is running. It will be good if someone can guide about what hardware is good for MT4/MT5 if I am opening multiple chart windows with multiple indicators.

I am using a MacBook Pro and and Sony Vaio right now and both have 16GB and 32 GB RAM and both run on i5 processors.

Please suggest and I guess it will be a good help for me and other new traders who might be facing similar issues.

Thanks!
  • #6
  • Feb 15, 2023 8:09am Feb 15, 2023 8:09am
Quoting zozon99
Ok, now I know what the problem is, I removed some 200 unnecessary files from the indicator folder for the start, now it works normally, the items I need have appeared again... {image}
Blindly following others will make you blind!
  • #7
  • Feb 15, 2023 11:50am Feb 15, 2023 11:50am
Quoting Fixer
Hi I have been using MT4 and MT5 since a few years now. Recently I started trading full-time and need to open more chart windows with more and more indicators working on them. Sometimes I feel that the charts hang for a few seconds when switching timeframes. I also have both my laptops heating up quiet much and the fans are always on even when the air conditioner is running. It will be good if someone can guide about what hardware is good for MT4/MT5 if I am opening multiple chart windows with multiple indicators. I am using a MacBook Pro and and...
My desktop computer is much more modest than your laptops, but with MT4/MT5 it works very fast without heating... I use windows10...
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Device name DESKTOP-VU4C9IQ
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with Radeon Graphics 3.70 GHz
Installed RAM 8.00 GB (7.30 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H2
Installed on ‎7/‎12/‎2022
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But I don't use MT4, with open more than 2-3 charts, instead I have that "symbol changer" indicator, with which I can change pages very quickly...

I made this little clip so you can see how it works:

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  • #8
  • Feb 15, 2023 10:29pm Feb 15, 2023 10:29pm
Quoting zozon99
{quote} My desktop computer is much more modest than your laptops, but with MT4/MT5 it works very fast without heating... I use windows10... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Device name DESKTOP-VU4C9IQ Processor AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with Radeon Graphics 3.70 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB (7.30 GB usable) System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display Edition Windows 10 Home Version 21H2 Installed on ‎7/‎12/‎2022...
Your CPU is way ahead with a score of 16k plus, whereas my better CPU is at about 2.6k. But should that make so much of a difference? I am planning to have more intense indicators on the charts and I would like to be able to switch between timeframes and have multiple charts open at the same time as I prefer to be in short term trades via scalp or short swing (intraday). Right now I use just one screen each on the two laptops and want to expand it to 4-6 screens as well. Do you think that the current processors might be okay and it is something else which is wrong? or I need to upgrade. Also it is not just MT4/MT5, even when I open tradingview on either laptops, they just fire up the fan and get slower on the charts. Is it more GPU dependent? I am sounding like a novice but I really have no clue or know people who trade with a proper extended setup and can guide me. Please suggest.

Thanks!
  • #9
  • Feb 15, 2023 10:37pm Feb 15, 2023 10:37pm
Quoting zozon99
Ok, now I know what the problem is, I removed some 200 unnecessary files from the indicator folder for the start, now it works normally, the items I need have appeared again... {image}
Try this!

re-organize your MQL4 Indicator folder

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  • #10
  • Feb 16, 2023 1:06am Feb 16, 2023 1:06am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Try this! re-organize your MQL4 Indicator folder https://youtu.be/GL7M2rF0pTI
OK, thank you, I actually use something similar for the templates folder, all these that I have circled are full of files from earlier times that I no longer use, but I felt bad about throwing them out... I have accumulated over 1700 files in the indicators folder, yesterday dropped 200, now it's working fine again. I think it has a tolerance limit for too many files that I have reached...
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  • #11
  • Feb 16, 2023 1:41am Feb 16, 2023 1:41am
Quoting Fixer
{quote} Your CPU is way ahead with a score of 16k plus, whereas my better CPU is at about 2.6k. But should that make so much of a difference? I am planning to have more intense indicators on the charts and I would like to be able to switch between timeframes and have multiple charts open at the same time as I prefer to be in short term trades via scalp or short swing (intraday). Right now I use just one screen each on the two laptops and want to expand it to 4-6 screens as well. Do you think that the current processors might be okay and it is something...
I'm not an expert, but I can tell you from experience that MT4 with up to 10 charts open is not too much for computer work. Indicators are a different story, and especially a combination of some indicators, which individually work well, but together enormously burden the system.

Try removing the one by one indicator from the chart, to see if any of them slow down the system too much, and when you find it, replace it with another one, or reduce their number... If you don't get anything with that, you need to upgrade...

5-6 years ago, indicators used to block my entire computer, now I hardly use them, since I realized that they show only what has already happened and that with a delay (which an experienced eye can read from a candlestick chart) and not what will happen...
  • #12
  • Feb 16, 2023 8:00am Feb 16, 2023 8:00am
Quoting zozon99
{quote} I'm not an expert, but I can tell you from experience that MT4 with up to 10 charts open is not too much for computer work. Indicators are a different story, and especially a combination of some indicators, which individually work well, but together enormously burden the system. Try removing the one by one indicator from the chart, to see if any of them slow down the system too much, and when you find it, replace it with another one, or reduce their number... If you don't get anything with that, you need to upgrade... 5-6 years ago, indicators...
True that, for what you mentioned about indicators show only what has happened and we can read that just with the candles. Using plain charts does the trick and it used to do that very much for me till sometime back. But it seem that I need to start depending on indicators now to make sure of what I read from candles. I tried removing the indicators and even switching to tradingview for charting, but then still the same. Seem I will try an upgraded system for a week (a friend of mine is lending me his machine for a week so that I am able to check and not just invest for nothing). I will keep you posted here if the new machine makes any difference. I am also planning to take my MacBook and Vaio to the service centre to get the cooling paste redone and see if that makes a difference as well. Thanks!

PS: Can you share the indicator which you used to quickly switch between the instruments, that seem to work quick.
  • #13
  • Last Post: Feb 16, 2023 11:48am Feb 16, 2023 11:48am
Quoting Fixer
{quote} True that, for what you mentioned about indicators show only what has happened and we can read that just with the candles. Using plain charts does the trick and it used to do that very much for me till sometime back. But it seem that I need to start depending on indicators now to make sure of what I read from candles. I tried removing the indicators and even switching to tradingview for charting, but then still the same. Seem I will try an upgraded system for a week (a friend of mine is lending me his machine for a week so that I am able...

I use this version the most, just drag it to the sub window, and with the settings you can transfer it to the main chart...
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