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  • #581
  • Dec 7, 2022 9:07am Dec 7, 2022 9:07am
quite crazy.
72 pips in 17 min.
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  • #582
  • Dec 7, 2022 10:03am Dec 7, 2022 10:03am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} from my own experience. 1. when you take short, ensure that the bullish wide range bar fvg is filled. 2. a strong displacement to 1 above is favorable. {image}
I see.
fall sleep at NY.
too tired at dayjob.
maybe skip today
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  • #583
  • Dec 7, 2022 10:36am Dec 7, 2022 10:36am
Quoting Milan
{quote} And what if it is going up? See the monthly chart.
I do missing about 3 candles swing high and low part.
but overall GJ seem side range.
and I personally now is intraday trade and if the daily bias allow, i will try to keep one ride with the trend.
if i offence you , i apologise, i just share what i hv learn and strictly follow it now.
candlestick pattern with strong volume that create fvg is better probability i guess, and daily old high n low is the most liquidity sit on.
this just what i have learn n feel.
still on going the mentorship from youtube.
Feel free to post more here mate
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  • #584
  • Dec 7, 2022 5:51pm Dec 7, 2022 5:51pm
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{quote} from my own experience. 1. when you take short, ensure that the bullish wide range bar fvg is filled. 2. a strong displacement to 1 above is favorable. {image}
I see
thank you
After gain 10% then gv back 5% ytd.
no new trade for now
waiting and watching
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  • #585
  • Dec 7, 2022 7:53pm Dec 7, 2022 7:53pm
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} I see thank you After gain 10% then gv back 5% ytd. no new trade for now waiting and watching
i feel that your unit size is too big.
say start with 5 lots.
if you do not feel at ease trading, reduce to 4 lots.
then accordingly 3,2,1 lot until you are comfortable with it.

but if you are comfortable with what is at the moment, i guess it's ok.
because i know that you are disciplined enough to cut loss fast.
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  • #586
  • Dec 7, 2022 7:59pm Dec 7, 2022 7:59pm
Quoting sharingan9
{quote} {quote} Here is what helps me. I noticed you tried shorting GU around the 23rd. Here is my take on GU and why I would not have gone short. Long was definitely the best outlook in terms of following value. Read screenshot and see if this can help your trading. Try to incorporate value in your trading may help. {image}
in short we can conclude and answer the question : WHY PRICE MOVE UP and DOWN ? ?

simply because PERCEPTION ON VALUE, not value itself.

so, how to analyse perception value on chart if I may ask ?

still not sure and brainstorming here ?

is we must look outside the chart ?

Thanks Sharingan9
best regards

note : price is king and
value intent or perception of value is god
  • #587
  • Dec 7, 2022 8:45pm Dec 7, 2022 8:45pm
Quoting deanyakobs
{quote} in short we can conclude and answer the question : WHY PRICE MOVE UP and DOWN ? ? simply because PERCEPTION ON VALUE, not value itself. so, how to analyse perception value on chart if I may ask ? still not sure and brainstorming here ? is we must look outside the chart ? Thanks Sharingan9 best regards note : price is king and value intent or perception of value is god
Value is the market's idea of a fair price. The range consolidations that you see in a session happen because the market has found value(fair price). Value can indicate direction. Where the consolidations happen in a session(top of the session or bottom of the session) can indicate direction of price. Many people use consolidations as s/r when in fact it is the weakest form of s/r. Consolidations(value) are better used as an indication of direction
  • #588
  • Dec 7, 2022 9:43pm Dec 7, 2022 9:43pm
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{quote} i feel that your unit size is too big. say start with 5 lots. if you do not feel at ease trading, reduce to 4 lots. then accordingly 3,2,1 lot until you are comfortable with it. but if you are comfortable with what is at the moment, i guess it's ok. because i know that you are disciplined enough to cut loss fast.
First is testing EU, then second stop out it went higher and about 2.5% loss, i shouldnt trade when i woke up last night after fall sleep, enter GU there and stop too tight , after hit my stop then i stop.
5% there about my profit .

i have one question , if gu wick or candle unable to touch ytd low or lower than ytd, that may possible a swing low right?
gu daily
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  • #589
  • Dec 7, 2022 9:46pm Dec 7, 2022 9:46pm
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{quote} i feel that your unit size is too big. say start with 5 lots. if you do not feel at ease trading, reduce to 4 lots. then accordingly 3,2,1 lot until you are comfortable with it. but if you are comfortable with what is at the moment, i guess it's ok. because i know that you are disciplined enough to cut loss fast.
Actually is normal size, bfr up 10% was smaller size,and market went very well , so i grow so fast.
but ytd was suffer 3-4 times stop , first is smaller size, then i try to enter normal size then stop out, so gv back faste because bfr order was half of regular size.
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  • #590
  • Dec 7, 2022 10:23pm Dec 7, 2022 10:23pm
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} i have one question , if gu wick or candle unable to touch ytd low or lower than ytd, that may possible a swing low right? gu daily {image}
if today not able to go to yesterday low and also high, then it will be inside candle right?
so indecision.
although swing low will be formed with indecision candle, what is the surrounding terrain like?
above you have lower high lower low candles right?

so do more analyzing, cannot apply rule straight out from the book.
if in doubt, just wait for next day.
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  • #591
  • Dec 7, 2022 10:51pm Dec 7, 2022 10:51pm
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{quote} if today not able to go to yesterday low and also high, then it will be inside candle right? so indecision. although swing low will be formed with indecision candle, what is the surrounding terrain like? above you have lower high lower low candles right? so do more analyzing, cannot apply rule straight out from the book. if in doubt, just wait for next day. {image}
Understand.
is ok, there is a lot of opportunity and different market.
if gu show indecision, no point to fight it.
GA has swing high now.
and AU seem equal high to take out later,
GU still need to see how today close , if it can retrace and not break ITH 226X-224X , maybe i try a small short there, for now i stay sideline first.
interesting part of LO.
i do my research, i try to avoid lunch time market.
Asian show 11.45am -1 pm
but toyko is 11.30-12.30 pm
LO just 2 minutes break, how is that broker break time in my time will be 8-8.02 pm
and NY 12.45 am -2.30 am.
(UTC/GMT ) malaysia local time
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  • #592
  • Dec 7, 2022 11:10pm Dec 7, 2022 11:10pm
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} if today not able to go to yesterday low and also high, then it will be inside candle right? so indecision. although swing low will be formed with indecision candle, what is the surrounding terrain like? above you have lower high lower low candles right? so do more analyzing, cannot apply rule straight out from the book. if in doubt, just wait for next day. {image}
i got a issue is , i am obsess to want ride with the market if there nice move.
sometime feel if close it, i may lose a good opportunity for swing
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  • #593
  • Dec 7, 2022 11:23pm Dec 7, 2022 11:23pm
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} i got a issue is , i am obsess to want ride with the market if there nice move. sometime feel if close it, i may lose a good opportunity for swing
gu i following lh ll
just violated asian low, possibly to yesterday low.
reference to uj going higher.
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  • #594
  • Dec 8, 2022 12:42am Dec 8, 2022 12:42am
there is sometime will have bad trade, but is fine.
i believe this strategy is what i looking for.
only i need to practice more and accept there is sometime market will try to bring me down.
GU actually work well there if i can be more patience to wait Price action show stronger down ytd.
so i might be cover and be green ytd. But is ok.
GA daily swing high, i took a try there,
first trade was too early, tokyo start, send try is after 1 h tokyo
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  • #595
  • Dec 8, 2022 3:33am Dec 8, 2022 3:33am
Daily bias is for short currently.
although ytd it was up push, and unable to close lower, it still below the ITH 224x
Looking for how gu cloe today.
trgeting ytd low
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  • #596
  • Dec 8, 2022 3:38am Dec 8, 2022 3:38am
gu short.
strong displacement of bullish fvg during london session.
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  • #597
  • Dec 8, 2022 3:39am Dec 8, 2022 3:39am
Is there any way for clear mt5 trade history arrow at ipad or phone?
is kind of messy at my chart, i took a lot of try bfr
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  • #598
  • Dec 8, 2022 3:43am Dec 8, 2022 3:43am
GA
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  • #599
  • Dec 8, 2022 3:54am Dec 8, 2022 3:54am
Quoting LeongPuiy
GA {image}
Clean chart.
Few line and box, fibo 50%.
First daily bias, 2nd 1h-15m frame work , 3rd 1m-5m for market shift and entry fvg.

work much better than my all strategy bfr
simple n no confuse
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  • #600
  • Dec 8, 2022 4:25am Dec 8, 2022 4:25am
No greed.
closed for 2% , and keep last order to rumble.
ytd drop 5% if my profit, now this trade gain back 2%.
just a practise target daily swing low to high , 50% with fvg.
stop at BE now
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