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  • #101
  • Nov 24, 2022 5:25am Nov 24, 2022 5:25am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} itching hand m1 scalp short the asian high level. {image}
Need dxy break today high for strength.
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  • #102
  • Nov 24, 2022 5:37am Nov 24, 2022 5:37am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} itching hand m1 scalp short the asian high level. {image}
that's what stops are for.
relook at surrounding again.
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  • #103
  • Nov 24, 2022 5:48am Nov 24, 2022 5:48am
This is a liquidity, guys. Use unfiled imbalance in accordance with trend.
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  • #104
  • Nov 24, 2022 5:57am Nov 24, 2022 5:57am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} that's what stops are for. relook at surrounding again. {image}
I will leave GU behind first
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  • #105
  • Nov 24, 2022 6:43am Nov 24, 2022 6:43am
I think the main problem here is the same as everywhere.
This thread has a name - Liquidity and Structure. But then we have 6 pages with... with candles? Lines? What?
How the world candlestick chart is connected with liquidity? What is the purpose to name the thread this way and then go back to all the standard bullshit that we can find in any other thread?
If you want to study liquidity and structure then there must be charts with liquidity! Then you can see the structure. We must post excel data with analyzis, trades, liquidations etc etc. But hey, again and again we see that nonsense named "look I'm 8 yo and I can draw colored lines".
Nothing new. Waste of time.
You can't spend 5$ to get data? You can't get free crypto data? Why guesswork? Why lines? What is the purpose of wasting time for predictions? Why you can't really spend your time to get real knowledge? It is really not interesting to know how market works?
Ask yourself: Do you really think it is possible to outperform algos, money and brains using drawing tools?
Observer effect
  • #106
  • Nov 24, 2022 9:44am Nov 24, 2022 9:44am
Quoting ryuryu
I think the main problem here is the same as everywhere. This thread has a name - Liquidity and Structure. But then we have 6 pages with... with candles? Lines? What? How the world candlestick chart is connected with liquidity? What is the purpose to name the thread this way and then go back to all the standard bullshit that we can find in any other thread? If you want to study liquidity and structure then there must be charts with liquidity! Then you can see the structure. We must post excel data with analyzis, trades, liquidations etc etc. But...
LOL show us some liquidity charts then brother. I'm always in student mode so it is always interesting to find out how the market mechanics work etc but the main goal is to make money and if people are successful making money with out algos then let them. Not all algos make money either lol.

Seriously ive seen 3 people here tout liquidity and theyve not shown me one chart of this data. Enlighten us, or the space shall be filled with what we know which is candles lol
  • #107
  • Nov 24, 2022 10:51am Nov 24, 2022 10:51am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} Hmm.. i blame myself being greedy. sometime i hv nice profit but decide to hold full risk and end up market reverse. i still trying to learn and improve, but still stuck at the same circle.
Try to lock some profit after some positive move or set SL at BE. This rule should be static and apply to all trades regardless of which side you are trading. Like move to BE after + 20pips
More time in the market, does not mean you trade better!
  • #108
  • Nov 24, 2022 11:51am Nov 24, 2022 11:51am
Quoting ryuryu
I think the main problem here is the same as everywhere. This thread has a name - Liquidity and Structure. But then we have 6 pages with... with candles? Lines? What? How the world candlestick chart is connected with liquidity? What is the purpose to name the thread this way and then go back to all the standard bullshit that we can find in any other thread? If you want to study liquidity and structure then there must be charts with liquidity! Then you can see the structure. We must post excel data with analyzis, trades, liquidations etc etc. But...
Majority of your comments are agianst this thread.
It may be right or wrong. I'm not here to judge. If you are making money with it, good for you!
But the fact that what worked for you may not works for others, because your trading style suits YOUR personality. And what worked for other traders may not works for you because it simply does NOT suit your personality. And as a "red badge experienced trader" you should already know this!
And on top of that, all you having been referring to your order flow is crypto because we get it there, right on the exchange besides the chart of the coin/token prices. But the fact that we do not have access to a total orderflow of the fx market. The live data does not represent the whole transaction taking placed concurrently around the globe. It is merely a total on one exchange only and we both know fx market is too big to have all the transactions recorded on one central exchange.
Lemme tell you sum, in my 22 years old i'm so glad that i got access to 5 types of traders so far, from which i get to choose which one i'll be!
#1 The first type is the order like you, using order flow, order table, and read all numerical transaction taking place at which price and what order size, 24hrs a day which is super boring (for me)

#2 The men using all technical tools available on his chart and yet still making it

#3 The man who trade using fundamentals and know nothing about technicals yet making thousands per day

#4 The trader who have no financial education yet get onto some decent project or meme project and making millions.

And lastly
The one crypto trader who made $27M in one month not using some order flow or advanced shit but just a mere price action on a chart using mulitiple timeframes,
support and resistance (as a zone) and fundamental events regarding the US economy and the coin traded itself and somehow he managed to explain why he choose to long/short that particular coin at that particular moment before even the reversal is formed. This one guy i used to follow him 2 years ago in discord, which he ghosted everyone ever since he hits his $27 millions Americans fckin dollar in one freakin month and not bullshitting and moaning like you about what is right or what is wrong.
Ever since that one guy, i changed how i deal with anyone moaning like you are doin. I'm just liks F U dude!

Let that sink in..
If you have nothing positive to contribute towards the topic, then get tf outta here instead of creating confusion about using some incomplete sh*t which works for you and nobody here is interested in using it!
Here is not currency or commodity futures or indices or crypto or stock option trading, it is the currency spot market!

Regards,
Fardeen
More time in the market, does not mean you trade better!
  • #109
  • Nov 24, 2022 11:52am Nov 24, 2022 11:52am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} Hmm.. i blame myself being greedy. sometime i hv nice profit but decide to hold full risk and end up market reverse. i still trying to learn and improve, but still stuck at the same circle.
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} I have redo my analysis and define structure at big tf and smaller tf again, to check what am i missing. my few trade went nicely then reverse to ate my stop recently. something i did wrong. need to improve it. i currently seeing GU may pullback to 2020. From smaller tf strucuture. i may wrong, took trade and tight stop 2130
Here is what helps me. I noticed you tried shorting GU around the 23rd. Here is my take on GU and why I would not have gone short. Long was definitely the best outlook in terms of following value. Read screenshot and see if this can help your trading. Try to incorporate value in your trading may help.


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  • #110
  • Nov 24, 2022 12:04pm Nov 24, 2022 12:04pm
A trade I took last week on GBPCHF. Same exact set up. I then drag my stop loss as value moves up.

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  • #111
  • Nov 24, 2022 12:26pm Nov 24, 2022 12:26pm
Quoting Fardeen1209
then get tf outta here instead of creating confusion about using some incomplete sh*t
Exactly what was expected. Instead of trying to understand - anger. I know why you all are angry. Because you know that you lie yourself. You know that it is impossible to outperform algos using drawing tools. You know that all you post is purest bullshit. But you have no brains, money and time to change it. You will do what you do - post nonsense more and more. That's why it is more comfortable for you to re-post forex dairy tales about traders mentality, feelings, forex billions and "personality". You will jump from one "successful" strategy to another loosing here and there. Then you will start to post your "insight" from demo accounts because you will be too weak to admit that you are looser. More lie, more threads. Keep dreaming. May be forex will allow you more colors for you lines.
Another "idiots detected" thread to my collection.
p.s. No answer needed. Will not reply.
Observer effect
  • #112
  • Nov 24, 2022 1:04pm Nov 24, 2022 1:04pm
Quoting ryuryu
I think the main problem here is the same as everywhere. This thread has a name - Liquidity and Structure. But then we have 6 pages with... with candles? Lines? What? How the world candlestick chart is connected with liquidity? What is the purpose to name the thread this way and then go back to all the standard bullshit that we can find in any other thread? If you want to study liquidity and structure then there must be charts with liquidity! Then you can see the structure. We must post excel data with analyzis, trades, liquidations etc etc. But...
Yeah you were right there is no theory and concept that can predict what will happend, i know it's sound sad, but hey that is the truth.
Using Chaos to Finding Order
  • #113
  • Edited 2:30pm Nov 24, 2022 2:09pm | Edited 2:30pm
Quoting sharingan9
{quote} LOL show us some liquidity charts then brother. I'm always in student mode so it is always interesting to find out how the market mechanics work etc but the main goal is to make money and if people are successful making money with out algos then let them. Not all algos make money either lol. Seriously ive seen 3 people here tout liquidity and theyve not shown me one chart of this data. Enlighten us, or the space shall be filled with what we know which is candles lol
Liquidity traders don’t use a chart for their trade decisions but rather trade off data coming off a tape. That may be a Dom, Time & Sales tape or pure Executed Market Orders data coming off an exchange.

What they don’t do is trade off data that shows where the resting orders are sitting - what they do actually is trade of executed market information as quick as they can enter the market.

The quicker you are, the more money you make.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #114
  • Nov 24, 2022 2:54pm Nov 24, 2022 2:54pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Exactly what was expected. Instead of trying to understand - anger. I know why you all are angry. Because you know that you lie yourself. You know that it is impossible to outperform algos using drawing tools. You know that all you post is purest bullshit. But you have no brains, money and time to change it. You will do what you do - post nonsense more and more. That's why it is more comfortable for you to re-post forex dairy tales about traders mentality, feelings, forex billions and "personality". You will jump from one "successful" strategy...
Show me your stats that show you are successful. I guarantee i wont be impressed
  • #115
  • Nov 24, 2022 2:57pm Nov 24, 2022 2:57pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Liquidity traders don’t use a chart for their trade decisions but rather trade off data coming off a tape. That may be a Dom, Time & Sales tape or pure Executed Market Orders data coming off an exchange. What they don’t do is trade off data that shows where the resting orders are sitting - what they do actually is trade of executed market information as quick as they can enter the market. The quicker you are, the more money you make.
Then post that data. Post something jesus lol. Post your results. Lets see some trade stats. I dont think any of you "Liquidity" traders have good stats else you would have showed us by now given how arrogant and condescending you all are.
  • #116
  • Nov 24, 2022 3:34pm Nov 24, 2022 3:34pm
Quoting sharingan9
{quote} Then post that data. Post something jesus lol. Post your results. Lets see some trade stats. I dont think any of you "Liquidity" traders have good stats else you would have showed us by now given how arrogant and condescending you all are.
I am not arrogant, pull your head in.

Did you look at the chart on post 21 I posted.
Tell me what you see on that chart and what it means.
I tied to present data in a visual sense because most here can’t read data as it rolls of exchange.

Whats your take on it?
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #117
  • Edited Nov 25, 2022 1:18am Nov 24, 2022 8:58pm | Edited Nov 25, 2022 1:18am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Exactly what was expected. Instead of trying to understand - anger. I know why you all are angry. Because you know that you lie yourself. You know that it is impossible to outperform algos using drawing tools. You know that all you post is purest bullshit. But you have no brains, money and time to change it. You will do what you do - post nonsense more and more. That's why it is more comfortable for you to re-post forex dairy tales about traders mentality, feelings, forex billions and "personality". You will jump from one "successful" strategy to another loosing here and there. Then you will start to post your "insight" from demo accounts because you will be too weak to admit that you are looser. More lie, more threads. Keep dreaming. May be forex will allow you more colors for you lines. Another "idiots detected" thread to my collection. p.s. No answer needed. Will not reply.
Many are talking about liquidity indeed they may be right and i could be wrong!
Since institutional traders open their position by may be 500lot or may be higher at a time. For them to be able to open 500lotd at once / close 500 lots they will need at least 1 other institutional guy who is willing to buy or sell(take the opposite sides of the trade) 500lots to them! Or need two guys to take the oppositee sides of the trade (200lot&300lots)meaning no interest to go further by institutions.
I know nothing beat the order flow, but instead of lecturing me and others about whats right or wrong, simply post something live, and explain your point! I dont need your open position or floating position, just simply post something based on currency spot market that explain what you were trying to say(your tools when you are flat)
This way i'll be glad to be the dumb one!
More time in the market, does not mean you trade better!
  • #118
  • Nov 24, 2022 11:51pm Nov 24, 2022 11:51pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Exactly what was expected. Instead of trying to understand - anger. I know why you all are angry. Because you know that you lie yourself. You know that it is impossible to outperform algos using drawing tools. You know that all you post is purest bullshit. But you have no brains, money and time to change it. You will do what you do - post nonsense more and more. That's why it is more comfortable for you to re-post forex dairy tales about traders mentality, feelings, forex billions and "personality". You will jump from one "successful" strategy...
I see you are a critical person, but that's how it is, your opinions makes sense, perhaps they don't understand OR they don't want to understand lol
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  • #119
  • Nov 25, 2022 12:25am Nov 25, 2022 12:25am
our knowledge is finite.
we all have our limitations.
we grasp what we can understand and focus and improve on them.
why beat ourselves if we trust in our own methods.
who can know and understand ourselves better?
never mind what others say.
we are all different.
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  • #120
  • Nov 25, 2022 12:29am Nov 25, 2022 12:29am
watching asian low / round number.
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