My private 1 hour talking with multi-millionaire

I am a regular person with a regular income - some average EU citizen.

Recently I was able to talk with an old friend of mine - for a lot of years we were not talking, a long time before we were close friends. We are not friends anymore but so happened that we talked

This was a huge benefit for me in terms of mindset.

You may not believe anything I will write here in this thread. But it is true. At least for me. Maybe this thread is exclusively for me to summarize what I learned. By trying to explain to you - I actually explaining to myself.

So here we go with key points from our conversation - all about mindset:

1. Read (or listen to audio versions) of Vadim Zeland writings - here official web site (this is not advertising - no affiliate link in URL i post - no commercial intention). Why? HE DID THAT ~15 years ago and he told me that fact. Maybe it is important...

2. Everything is about mindset. No matter what business you do (for example trading) - if you have the wrong mindset - you won't succeed

3. He explained why he can't invest any money in my projects. His words "No matter what amount of money I allocate for you - you will lose it and no benefit". He saw that my mindset is not ready for big money... ok... ok... let it be yes i fully understand I am a newbie. but he said I have potential. this is good

4. First come mindset and only then money. You can't change your mindset to a needed condition with any amount of money.

5. I asked - what exactly I must do? What is a core element of your success? His answer: "Surround yourself with energy-driven people" well.. not exactly.. exact words were something like "Be in CIRCLE of the right people" (i will try to remember what exactly he said - somehow formulate, i didn't record that conversation). But how I understand this is that try to find near you successful people - this is how you impact your mindset.

I share this exclusive conversation. Because I believe this is the way how universe works - "want more wisdom - give wisdom to others". There must be a flow of energy - therefore I exchange this with you.

I hope someone will write here in this thread similar or explain to me something I missed from this conversation. I will try to remember more and write maybe here more details.

I am newbie - therefore I can try any approach to succeed. Even spiritual. I know here is nothing to trading particular in this post. But those principles apply to any business including trading.

What I felt when talking to him - 100% certain. He talked in a special manner. Very confident. "When you are backed with millions $ then your words sound different" this was my first impression.. but it is not about money. It is a pure mindset.

We can spend countless hours finding strategies etc... but core work should be done with mindset only. With the right mindset will come the right ideas.

Hi Gepards, this post is suitable for your thread. Cheers

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post14192174
Everytime this type of topic comes up, there's this typical naysaying - it can't be done, it's impossible, nobody know, there's no need for ...

Impossible is where the golden opportunity lie.
Imo anything is possible if you set your mind to it, don't let this impossible talk stymie your potential. Walk away from this impossible naysaying, never inherit other people's negative vibes, it's theirs leave it in their good hands.

There's so much naysaying, market is random, it's impossible. Recognise and detect such negative vibes and flee.

Set your own narrative that talk about the possibles.
And do yourself a favour, surround yourself with like minded individuals that think the same, it's possible. Keep yourself surrounded with the good vibes.

One more thing, you must be aware this Forex business deal with predicting the future event, impossible task. Ofc it is impossible, else all of us traders are millionaires. Only few are able to thrive under this impossible requirement. If you think, any of these strategies on FF, books and YouTube give you this edge solution to this impossible prediction that you can copy from, you are entitled to your opinion. More power to you if that's your story.

I believe in original content that you generate from between your ears which is different from what's available in public domain. Your trading edge that don't yet exist in the forex trading world - that's objectively quantified - the measurable criteria that's required. You have to find yourself and be you. And there's no need to prove to anyone other than to yourself. You'll be a fool to try convince others. If you can figure out the edge you're no fool.

I've wrote my piece, moving on.

Cheers.

*** 2nd video, 11:15 onwards
"If you really want to learn and get better at anything, you have any chance at becoming an expert at anything, you have to be willing to be uncomfortable because thinking takes effort."

"Do what you hate to do but do like you love it." ----- unquote Mike Tyson

Nice one.

You may like this:

That's the oddest, most interesting book I've seen for a *long* time, thanks for posting

tnx

idea what I get from the video you posted: First learn to be neutral. Only then can go positive. Yea, to be neutral is very powerful.. do not say/do negatively. but not be fake positive. this over-faked positive is a mistake too seems. better to be neutral.

(reality transsyrfing)

In order to be conscious how about this - speak in mind anything before saying it loydly? Have you tried this approach?

I tried this several times (dit it today as well with colleagues) - the conversation then is "weird" (people said that to me). I speak very slowly. People do not have the patience to wait for answers from me. But I felt very aware. I noticed how people talking. I noticed I was not tired.. I kept energy for myself. "Freeride" speaking maybe spent energy? But maybe people felt bad because in the conversation was no energy from me? But I said good and kind words to people. I said "Good idea", "Thank you for pointing out this idea" etc etc But all I said was first in my mind and only then loudly. It was not a "natural speech". But hey... why "natural" "freeride" fast speech is considered to be "normal/natural"? Because all around speak so?

I explained to my colleagues why I spoke in that manner. Then one started to bully me.. noticed that as well but this was not harmful to me. I was aware and then those words did not hurt me.

When speaking in that way maybe I close some "gates" so no energy goes into me "freely" from other people (awareness allowed to enter only good words in me and not bad words - I was not exposed)? But does the energy go out of me? When I say first in my mind..

Jesus said in Matt. 15:11 this:


when we speak "freeride," we say a lot of harmful things to others, we say a lot of wrong things, we hurt ourselves... we give away our energy (Chi).



I would better say this: language is an instrument. You can build and you can destroy with it. So why use that instrument on "freeride" without the mind-first approach?

Have you practiced this mind-first speaking? Is there some name for this technique or books or lessons?

You made key discovery.

You are welcome to read my threads. I speak a lot about mindset. And took me over a decade to work my mindset to be ready to trade larger accounts. So I understand the challenge of not only developing the proper mindset, but also to maintain it.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...?goto=lastpost
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...?goto=lastpost
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...?goto=lastpost

Recently saw the inspiring Pixar anime movie "Soul".. here is an episode about "lost souls" (obsessed traders in this case):



According to Vadim Zeland this obsession can be in any field... when people get "too obsessed" with any goal (for example, get famous, get rich, get healthy, get loved, get fit, get friends etc) then this state of mind is a trap.

Here example from my own experience here in FF...

you can search posts in my profile where I was obsessed with "recognition" in Forex Factory.. I had no red badge... I wanted it. I wanted to be in TOP traders..


Then I get off from FF some months... when returned.. red badge. I did "let it go".. dont know what changed... I did no new posts.. no new subscribers signed to me.. maybe FF changed the rules..

Even more... FF traders ratings for this year I'm now TOP1:


From my point of view - when I stop being in a "wanting" state... all started to change..

Ok but here is the "catch"... opposite effect works too... for example when I start to brag about success.. then success vanishes.. why? because when bragging it is the same state of mind as "desperately wanting". in both cases, my mind put too much "importance" on "that thing".


therefore it is a clear fundamental requirement not to risk more than 10% of free capital.. because when you risk more.. your mind put "importance" too much.. and here come doubts and wrong decisions because of the "it is important to me" attitude.

1. Heard this several years ago from some spiritual teaching... Q: "What is the difference between a King and a slave?".. A: "Desire"

2. Read something like this in Reality Transurfing from Vadim Zeland: Q: "How it comes that some people took all resources when the Soviet Union collapsed and become billionaires? Why them?" A: "They have consciousness 'This is mine'"

3. From the movie "The White Princess" - King: "I believed I'd be given the right to rule.." and Queen: "The right is not given. It is taken (by force)"



No misunderstandings here.. I talk not about taking with force. I talk about "take with certainty". Force is used when there is no 100% certainty that "It is truly mine".. when we have true certainty and no doubts - force is not needed. Force creates anti-force anyway and taking by force is not in long term.

Because there is a proverb:


What do you want? Money? For what? Think more about what you truly desire.. once each of us truly knows what we desire - we will 100% get it without hard work and without force. Hard work is a force too.. no need to sacrifice anything (health or time to spend with family/friends) to get what we truly aim for.

All is in our minds. State of mind. Certainty.