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  • #1,101
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:24am Nov 7, 2022 8:24am
Quoting birdland
i have one hour time, so lets do a trade. SHORT@1479, tp5
+5
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  • #1,102
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:28am Nov 7, 2022 8:28am
random hedge@1470, tp5
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  • #1,103
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:31am Nov 7, 2022 8:31am
Quoting birdland
random hedge@1470, tp5
LONG+5
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,104
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:35am Nov 7, 2022 8:35am
LONG@1470, tp5
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,105
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:36am Nov 7, 2022 8:36am
Quoting birdland
random hedge@1470, tp5
SHORT+5
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,106
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:36am Nov 7, 2022 8:36am
LONG@1458, no tp
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,107
  • Nov 7, 2022 8:47am Nov 7, 2022 8:47am
Quoting birdland
LONG@1458, no tp
closed whole trasaction sequence for +25 (+5,+5, +5, +11, -1)
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trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,108
  • Nov 7, 2022 9:10am Nov 7, 2022 9:10am
Quoting birdland
{quote} it started with +3, then +4 and then i went short but it failed. then a again turned around the ship and went long for another +20 pips. 11 LONGS versus 6 SHORTS averaged up, made for the whole transaction +27. but in reality with a live account i would not have felt comfortable with a floatling loss of -230 pips. the H1 bar is 135 pips huge, which is exceptional, even more so on a Monday. i am not trading privately with the live account today because i don't like too crazy, divergent movements. tomorrow is a new day. {image}
Great bit of experience, you've probably got a lot out of it, big down draws are common good to be prepared and experience it, remember nothing set in stone always cut the trade for a loss if you feel uncomfortable with it
  • #1,109
  • Nov 7, 2022 9:41am Nov 7, 2022 9:41am
Quoting Waveskierrob
{quote} Great bit of experience, you've probably got a lot out of it, big down draws are common good to be prepared and experience it, remember nothing set in stone always cut the trade for a loss if you feel uncomfortable with it
yes, got really a lot out of it. i think i can handle this drawdown also in the future and with a live account. but essential is the small lot size with all the hedging/averaging approaches.

i have at the moment no idea what drawdown is acceptable or not and to close the whole transaction, will find it out through practice on demo i guess;-)
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,110
  • Nov 7, 2022 9:47am Nov 7, 2022 9:47am
Quoting birdland
{quote} yes, got really a lot out of it. i think i can handle this drawdown also in the future and with a live account. but essential is the small lot size with all the hedging/averaging approaches. i have at the moment no idea what drawdown is acceptable or not and to close the whole transaction, will find it out through practice on demo i guess;-)
Don't hesitate to go through the data throughout the last 20years, and plan accordingly. Lot of work, but necessary for long-term.
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #1,111
  • Nov 7, 2022 10:23am Nov 7, 2022 10:23am
Quoting mtako
{quote} Don't hesitate to go through the data throughout the last 20years, and plan accordingly. Lot of work, but necessary for long-term.
I won't do that, because that would be backtesting and that doesn't make sense in my experience.
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #1,112
  • Nov 7, 2022 10:31am Nov 7, 2022 10:31am
Quoting birdland
{quote} I won't do that, because that would be backtesting and that doesn't make sense in my experience.
Sounds good. Good luck in your forward testing then !
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #1,113
  • Nov 7, 2022 10:46am Nov 7, 2022 10:46am
Quoting birdland
{quote} I won't do that, because that would be backtesting and that doesn't make sense in my experience.
Theory comes with practice.
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  • #1,114
  • Nov 7, 2022 12:14pm Nov 7, 2022 12:14pm
GU

Scalp short.
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I come from the future.
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  • #1,115
  • Nov 7, 2022 12:23pm Nov 7, 2022 12:23pm
Quoting Pat Chiko
GU Scalp short.{image}
Hello,
Thanks for sharing your trade. Can you please share why did you open short, while trend is clearly bullish. (Please don't mind bcoz I am new to forum, just learning with real money).
and what is possible tp.

Regards.
  • #1,116
  • Nov 7, 2022 12:36pm Nov 7, 2022 12:36pm
Quoting Pat Chiko
GU Scalp short.{image}
Looks totally random. Good for you :laugh:
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  • #1,117
  • Nov 7, 2022 3:00pm Nov 7, 2022 3:00pm
Quoting KashifHfx
{quote} Hello, Thanks for sharing your trade. Can you please share why did you open short, while trend is clearly bullish. (Please don't mind bcoz I am new to forum, just learning with real money). and what is possible tp. Regards.
GU

Confluence of price action.
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"while trend is clearly bullish."
What TF is trend bullish by your definition. ?
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  • #1,118
  • Nov 7, 2022 3:58pm Nov 7, 2022 3:58pm
Quoting d5400
{quote} Looks totally random. Good for you :laugh:
the more random it is the better
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  • #1,119
  • Nov 7, 2022 4:22pm Nov 7, 2022 4:22pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Not trying to be offensive, but that is anything but a random trade....
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  • #1,120
  • Nov 7, 2022 4:23pm Nov 7, 2022 4:23pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Not trying to be offensive, but that is anything but a random trade....
Only random allowed here.
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