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  • Aug 16, 2022 7:47am Aug 16, 2022 7:47am
  •  Guderian
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{quote} I don't understand I never risk more than 1% in any trade Never take more than 5 trades in the week I risk low to avoid big drawdown If you take 20 trades monthly and win 10 and loss 10 and winners are bigger you will make money If you win 12 trades and loss 8 and winners are bigger than losses you make big money This week i open Eurjpy and closed it around 3R profit Gbpjpy and closed it around 2R profit Eurusd daily trade still in it in small profit Xauusd 4 hour still in it in aroud 1R till now I will take another trade this week if the...
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Okay , understood , you have a very good MM
 
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 8:46am Aug 16, 2022 8:46am
  •  sadd
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Hello! This is great. I'm looking forward to the Chinese version.
 
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 8:49am Aug 16, 2022 8:49am
  •  Alihelmy123
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eurgbp learning example
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i dont know why traders do not like to trade big time frames

in big time frames you can achieve 60% win rate very easy and winner bigger than losers
donot listen to traders that tell you that they make 90% and 80% win rate
you are searching for something like this from long time and donot found strategy that give you 90% win rate
do not waste your time there is no something like this and if it available banks must print much amount of money to give winners
be realastic
This problem stems from inexperience and human psychology. Namely, a lack of experience attunes the new trader’s ear to what sounds good at first blush, rather than what actually works or makes sense
Many “too good to be true” type trading systems are thus sold on the basis of incredibly high winning percentages, or “hit rates” – often 80% or better, backtested over some carefully selected time period. Because the human psyche is naturally tilted towards loss aversion, this is the kind of thing that appeals
steven cohen mentioned that his best trader makes money only 63 percent of the time. Most traders make money only in the 50 to 55 percent range. That means you’re going to be wrong a lot. If that’s the case, you better be sure your losses are as small as they can be, and that your winners are bigger.
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 9:56am Aug 16, 2022 9:56am
  •  dokopy
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If the trade takes four times as long, then I have to trade four times the volume. And I can't sleep peacefully.
Please excuse the bad English via Google Translate.
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 10:43am Aug 16, 2022 10:43am
  •  sadd
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Hi! I'm very interested in your indicators, but it's a pity that I don't speak English, which annoys me. I tried to set it up, but failed. The settings shown on my kt4 seem to be different from yours. Maybe I can't speak English, so I can't set it correctly. Although I really want to have a Chinese version, I know this is a very unreasonable requirement. I really want to know how to set it up correctly.
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  • Aug 16, 2022 11:26am Aug 16, 2022 11:26am
  •  Alihelmy123
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If the trade takes four times as long, then I have to trade four times the volume. And I can't sleep peacefully.
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Why you trade four times the volume
I don't risk more than 1% in any trade daily or 4 hour
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 11:28am Aug 16, 2022 11:28am
  •  Alihelmy123
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Hi! I'm very interested in your indicators, but it's a pity that I don't speak English, which annoys me. I tried to set it up, but failed. The settings shown on my kt4 seem to be different from yours. Maybe I can't speak English, so I can't set it correctly. Although I really want to have a Chinese version, I know this is a very unreasonable requirement. I really want to know how to set it up correctly.{image}
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Bro i dont understand the meaning of chinese version
Do you mean Japanese candle
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 12:31pm Aug 16, 2022 12:31pm
  •  Alihelmy123
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Hi! I'm very interested in your indicators, but it's a pity that I don't speak English, which annoys me. I tried to set it up, but failed. The settings shown on my kt4 seem to be different from yours. Maybe I can't speak English, so I can't set it correctly. Although I really want to have a Chinese version, I know this is a very unreasonable requirement. I really want to know how to set it up correctly.{image}
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Change macd setting to 5-7-4
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
 
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  • Aug 16, 2022 9:46pm Aug 16, 2022 9:46pm
  •  jpntrader
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eurgbp learning example daily chart{image}{image}i dont know why traders do not like to trade big time frames in big time frames you can achieve 60% win rate very easy and winner bigger than losers donot listen to traders that tell you that they make 90% and 80% win rate you are searching for something like this from long time and donot found strategy that give you 90% win rate do not waste your time there is no something like this and if it available banks must print much amount of money to give winners be realastic This problem...
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I was in this on 1H time frame yesterday, but closed the position due to bedtime (not used to bringing positions overnight yet).
Wanted to reenter today and then I realized the last high on 1H is pretty much the same with the previous candle's high on daily TF.
So... I just got into my first 1D execution.
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 12:13am Aug 17, 2022 12:13am
  •  dokopy
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{quote} Why you trade four times the volume I don't risk more than 1% in any trade daily or 4 hour
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Example. Four trades result in a profit of 4 x 25 pips = 100 pips. If I want to make a profit of 100 pips from one trade, I have to trade 4 times the volume.
Please excuse the bad English via Google Translate.
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 12:15am Aug 17, 2022 12:15am
  •  dokopy
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{quote} Why you trade four times the volume I don't risk more than 1% in any trade daily or 4 hour
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Example. Four trades result in a profit of 4 x 25 USD = 100 USD. If I want to make a profit of 100 USD from one trade, I have to trade 4 times the volume.
Please excuse the bad English via Google Translate.
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 4:48am Aug 17, 2022 4:48am
  •  tienphuc2910
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{quote} I don't understand I never risk more than 1% in any trade Never take more than 5 trades in the week I risk low to avoid big drawdown If you take 20 trades monthly and win 10 and loss 10 and winners are bigger you will make money If you win 12 trades and loss 8 and winners are bigger than losses you make big money This week i open Eurjpy and closed it around 3R profit Gbpjpy and closed it around 2R profit Eurusd daily trade still in it in small profit Xauusd 4 hour still in it in aroud 1R till now I will take another trade this week if the...
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You close the order according to 5-MA or the candle changes color.

Tks so much!
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 5:16am Aug 17, 2022 5:16am
  •  jpntrader
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{quote} Example. Four trades result in a profit of 4 x 25 USD = 100 USD. If I want to make a profit of 100 USD from one trade, I have to trade 4 times the volume.
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Hi man, I think I understand the way you think.
Let's say your 1% is 25 USD; if entering on 4H makes you having to wait four times longer (compared to 1H entry) only to get the same 25 USD, while at the same time you could have made 4 winning trades on 1H, might as well quadruple the volume on 4H, right? Haha.

It's just a matter of preference.

Ali emphasizes entering on higher time frames because according to him, it's better for your psychology/mental/mind, and less noise.
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 5:25am Aug 17, 2022 5:25am
  •  Alihelmy123
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{quote} Example. Four trades result in a profit of 4 x 25 pips = 100 pips. If I want to make a profit of 100 pips from one trade, I have to trade 4 times the volume.
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I dont count profit or loss by pips
I count by percentage
You can take 4 or 5 setups weekly
Risking 1% in each trade and profit according to market condition may be 1% or2% some of them may be 4% or 5% profit
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 5:29am Aug 17, 2022 5:29am
  •  Alihelmy123
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{quote} I was in this on 1H time frame yesterday, but closed the position due to bedtime (not used to bringing positions overnight yet). Wanted to reenter today and then I realized the last high on 1H is pretty much the same with the previous candle's high on daily TF. So... I just got into my first 1D execution.
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One of the reasons make me trade high time frames is this
If i wake up in the morning and will not sleep the next eight or nine hours may be take trade in 1 hour if market give me chance
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 5:49am Aug 17, 2022 5:49am
  •  Alihelmy123
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LEARNING EXAMPLE
EURJPY 1 HOUR
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this two setups was good today but i dont take them because i still have opening position and dont need to increase risk
i look in risk that i can determine only and market determine profit what you need good exit to make big profit
you must change your behavior donot think in profit think in how much you risk
by this way with time you will make consistent money
when there are many setups i think what will be may statue if them all lose
so i take only risk only i can sleep with it
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 6:01am Aug 17, 2022 6:01am
  •  WatariFX
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{quote} Hi man, I think I understand the way you think. Let's say your 1% is 25 USD; if entering on 4H makes you having to wait four times longer (compared to 1H entry) only to get the same 25 USD, while at the same time you could have made 4 winning trades on 1H, might as well quadruple the volume on 4H, right? Haha. It's just a matter of preference. Ali emphasizes entering on higher time frames because according to him, it's better for your psychology/mental/mind, and less noise.
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Hi jpntrader, i notice you using TV instead of metatrader. Would you like to tell the indicator and settings for this system please? My metatrader was crash and i couldn't fix it so I'm thinking of using TV. Thank you in advance!
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 6:09am Aug 17, 2022 6:09am
  •  jpntrader
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{quote} One of the reasons make me trade high time frames is this If i wake up in the morning and will not sleep the next eight or nine hours may be take trade in 1 hour if market give me chance
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Yeah I am slooowly going there.
Entering on higher time frames on a big account is more beneficial to your daily life.
(on big accounts, the % gain you need is far less than if you have a small account)

But I'm still working on my psychology now. Not used to sleep with a position that's still on.
However I am placing a wider stop loss on that EURGBP and will try to sleep tonight with that trade still going hahaha
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2022 6:21am Aug 17, 2022 6:21am
  •  demon83
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ОБУЧАЮЩИЙ ПРИМЕР EURJPY 1 ЧАС{image}aud usd 1hour{image}эти две установки были хороши сегодня, но я не беру их, потому что у...
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Hello Alihelmy123. Can you help me for understanding situation? On EURJPY H1 i mark two situation. 1 situation red line, price below red turtle, candle close below Averages Channnel Candles, macd cross under 0 level - we can sell on this mark candle?

Second situation Turtle green, candle close above Averages Channnel Candles, macd cross above 0 level - we can buy on this mark candle?

Yep i understand then ACC not red for sell position and not green for buy, but how you see for this situation? Thx!
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  • Aug 17, 2022 6:14pm Aug 17, 2022 6:14pm
  •  Alihelmy123
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{quote} Hello Alihelmy123. Can you help me for understanding situation? On EURJPY H1 i mark two situatiobn. 1 situation red line, price below red turtle, candle close below Averages Channnel Candles, macd cross under 0 level - we can sell on this mark candle? Second situation Turtle green, candle close above Averages Channnel Candles, macd cross above 0 level - we can buy on this mark candle? Yep i understand then ACC not red for sell position and not green for buy, but how you see for this situation? Thx! {image}
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yes you can but better take trades in first or second candle color change
Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Then maybe you have a chance
 
 
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