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  • #9,941
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:01pm Aug 6, 2022 3:01pm
  •  maz19
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Quoting joe123
{quote} yes you can look on lower time frames and can confirm it with reversal candles. there was also bullish engulfing and a doji candle on the 4h chart. the idea is to pretty much find reversal candles on different time frames. you dont really need to go into lower time frames if you have a reversal candle on the same time frame you looking at with the S&D. you go into lower time frames when looking for supply and demand levels. thats correct though

Now I understood. We can choose any lower time frames.. all we have to do is, see a nice reversal pattern!
  • #9,942
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:02pm Aug 6, 2022 3:02pm
Quoting maz19
{quote} Yes Got it!
good, give me an example of caps and flags on 1h GBPUSD time frame? If you want? but if you have this then you have 1/3rd of how i trade markets.
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  • #9,943
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:12pm Aug 6, 2022 3:12pm
Quoting maz19
{quote} Now I understood. We can choose any lower time frames.. all we have to do is, see a nice reversal pattern!
it can be a higher time frame too.
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  • #9,944
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:18pm Aug 6, 2022 3:18pm
Quoting joe123
{quote} good, give me an example of caps and flags on 1h GBPUSD time frame? If you want? but if you have this then you have 1/3rd of how i trade markets.
or better do 30min, there not that many on 1h time frame which i just checked. 30 min you can see them all over.

remember the higher the time frame, the less caps and flags you see. the lower the timeframe the more caps and flags you see.
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  • #9,945
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:24pm Aug 6, 2022 3:24pm
  •  maz19
  • | Joined May 2022 | Status: What you seek is seeking you! | 34 Posts
Quoting joe123
{quote} good, give me an example of caps and flags on 1h GBPUSD time frame? If you want? but if you have this then you have 1/3rd of how i trade markets.

GBP 1hr

This is how I mark Demand and Suppy zones. For DZ I see if the rally has broken the previous high likewise if SZ's drop has broken the previous low.
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  • #9,946
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:32pm Aug 6, 2022 3:32pm
Quoting maz19
{quote} GBP 1hr This is how I mark Demand and Suppy zones. For DZ I see if the rally has broken the previous high likewise if SZ's drop has broken the previous low. {image}
lol ok we look at s&d zones slightly differently. its a little harder finding those caps on your chart.
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  • #9,947
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:33pm Aug 6, 2022 3:33pm
  •  maz19
  • | Joined May 2022 | Status: What you seek is seeking you! | 34 Posts
Quoting joe123
{quote} or better do 30min, there not that many on 1h time frame which i just checked. 30 min you can see them all over. remember the higher the time frame, the less caps and flags you see. the lower the timeframe the more caps and flags you see.

Om 30mins GBP
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  • #9,948
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:35pm Aug 6, 2022 3:35pm
anyway!!!
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  • #9,949
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:42pm Aug 6, 2022 3:42pm
Quoting maz19
{quote} Om 30mins GBP {image}
yeah pretty much plus a few extra.
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  • #9,950
  • Aug 6, 2022 3:54pm Aug 6, 2022 3:54pm
so after that, the idea is to find your highs and lows, then go into a lower timeframe like 1min 5 or15 min and find the flags or caps in price and mark them down.
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  • #9,951
  • Aug 6, 2022 5:17pm Aug 6, 2022 5:17pm
Please how can i contact AKT? i have sent several emails(storehouseanalytics) to him but no response.
Please!
  • #9,952
  • Aug 8, 2022 6:26am Aug 8, 2022 6:26am
Quoting R.Miguel
Please how can i contact AKT? i have sent several emails(storehouseanalytics) to him but no response. Please!
Hello R.Miguel
Good to meet you
Apologies, but I haven't received any emails from you. I suspect you are not sending them to the gee mail address
Try and resend pls

best wishes
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  • #9,953
  • Aug 8, 2022 6:34am Aug 8, 2022 6:34am
Quoting Nitink
{quote} Thank you so much Akt, I really appreciate you helping us. I want to ask one question Regarding AUDUSD D1 chart , what led you to decide that, that area is right place to short, was it weekly time frame factor or something else. Because if you see daily chart only, then the daily trend is Up, and going against same time frame zones, short is a low probability Trade . What are your thoughts
Hi Nitink

It was a couple of things.

Firstly, it was the fresh zone with the biggest move away on the daily chart at that time. As highlighted on the chart i posted about it, after the initial big move away from the level, the downward momentum fizzled out and price just ground downwards. Price found it relatively easy to then trade back up through that area. There was a strong chance it would have some problems continuing the up move at that daily SZ. Why? because of the second reason, the RBD SZ was the origin of the last down-leg that moved prices to new lows.

hope that helps

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #9,954
  • Aug 8, 2022 6:42am Aug 8, 2022 6:42am
Quoting maz19
{quote} GBP 1hr This is how I mark Demand and Suppy zones. For DZ I see if the rally has broken the previous high likewise if SZ's drop has broken the previous low. {image}
Hello maz19

If i may, those are very good filters to have for your levels. The reason is really simple. A move beyond a new low (SZ) or new high(DZ) suggests firstly, momentum in price movement and secondly, enough orders to get through the supply/demand at those previous levels. Finally, such moves also open up the profit margin for when price returns to the SZ or DZ and the the trade is taken.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #9,955
  • Aug 8, 2022 6:59am Aug 8, 2022 6:59am
  •  maz19
  • | Joined May 2022 | Status: What you seek is seeking you! | 34 Posts
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello maz19 If i may, those are very good filters to have for your levels. The reason is really simple. A move beyond a new low (SZ) or new high(DZ) suggests firstly, momentum in price movement and secondly, enough orders to get through the supply/demand at those previous levels. Finally, such moves also open up the profit margin for when price returns to the SZ or DZ and the the trade is taken. best wishes

Thank You Akt, I appreciate your reply.
  • #9,956
  • Aug 8, 2022 9:09am Aug 8, 2022 9:09am
AUDUSD 30 MIN & DAILY:

we could get a counter retracement at this level on 30 min, just take note that the level is not fresh. so only a retracement perhaps. will try short there. this level is holding us back from heading higher into the daily supply
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daily supply higher up, you can long it by demands on lower time frames.
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  • #9,957
  • Aug 10, 2022 5:29pm Aug 10, 2022 5:29pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello R.Miguel Good to meet you Apologies, but I haven't received any emails from you. I suspect you are not sending them to the gee mail address Try and resend pls best wishes

am sending it at your gee mail add
  • #9,958
  • Aug 11, 2022 10:20am Aug 11, 2022 10:20am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello R.Miguel Good to meet you Apologies, but I haven't received any emails from you. I suspect you are not sending them to the gee mail address Try and resend pls best wishes

please check. Thank you
  • #9,959
  • Aug 12, 2022 2:08pm Aug 12, 2022 2:08pm
I went through several posts in the thread but I still don't see what's the basic rules/ideas to look for S/D zones. Was some post removed, am I missing something?
  • #9,960
  • Aug 12, 2022 6:00pm Aug 12, 2022 6:00pm
Quoting joe123
looking at these, lets see. {image} {image}
Quoting joe123
{quote} EURGBP in a little less clear on lower time frame. the lower level is somewhat tested already and it happens in the middle of the move which is ok somtimes, but the higher level is a fresh level and ill be for sure shorting it by. ill see how it approaches the two levels. {image}
if you view my previous posts, i posted about the EURGBP supply level as we were heading towards it. i had an order placed which got missed

if you look closely on the daily chart, we created a reversal candle in yellow. this is what i was referring to when i said you want to sell short on a reversal candle as a confirmation when we hit a supply level. the best option was to short it on a touch of that level which it somewhat did, just about. if you look closely at the previous candle, it created somewhat of a bullish engulfing candle. that is, it engulfed the red candle two chart bars before, where the candle is in the yellow box but two previous bars before.


Daily:
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what we want to do is look in that bullish engulfing candle to see where, and if there are buyers in that bar. but first we need to find the low and high on a lower time frame. so we go to an 8h time frame and mark out the low and high. the idea after that is to find a 'flag' towards the bottom of the move. the lower black line. the first 2 blue candles after the low is where we want to look into on an even lower time frame.


8h chart:
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so we go on to a lower time frame such as the 2h chart, and find the flag which is marked in grey as the demand. this is where price can pause at for a move higher.


2h chart:
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in conclusion, you can short it based on the daily reversal candle, but we need to be aware that on a lower time frame there is this demand that price has to get passed from in order for the daily reversal to take hold. perhaps long it at the 2h demand zone when it hits that level. if price does not stay above this level, we are probably going lower towards the low on the 8h chart.

SSI signals there's more traders going short then long, so perhaps this demand might hold.
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