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  • #9,861
  • Jul 21, 2022 3:45pm Jul 21, 2022 3:45pm
I have a a few questions please, I've been following the strategy for a while now but have minimal success (Still making money though, but I feel I'm limiting myself)

1 - As a day trader, Would the 1D,4H and the 1H not be the right time frames? Most of the Youtube videos show you trading 1D and then 15m, isnt that too much of a difference in timeframe?
I've tried 1D and 15m for a month but feel there's too much of a gap in the timeframe, but then I don't get enough trades trading the 1D and 1H.

2- As a day trader, how many trades am I supposed to be popping off a week, roughly (I dont mind the wins/loss ratio). I have all the major pairs up, and I get 2 or 3 trades a week roughly, and sometimes it'll be 1 win and 2 losses (I use a 1:2 RR) and so my wins are cut off.

Thank you for your patience
  • #9,862
  • Jul 21, 2022 9:06pm Jul 21, 2022 9:06pm
Quoting joe123
{quote} yeah i got similar levels, slightly higher tho if we can reach it, will be a nice place to go short. got my orders in place and see if we can reach it. test of time. EURUSD 4h {image} EURUSD 1h{image}
seems to have touched my order but didnt get triggered on this one. and thats the problem with supply and demand levels, they never go exactly where you want them to. but was close. anyone take it?

Quoting CarlosNL
EURUSD Weekly {image} Daily{image} 4H {image}
your daily level that you marked out at 1 was consumed at point 2.

thought i would share that with you.
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  • #9,863
  • Jul 21, 2022 9:53pm Jul 21, 2022 9:53pm
Quoting E7i
I have a a few questions please, I've been following the strategy for a while now but have minimal success (Still making money though, but I feel I'm limiting myself) 1 - As a day trader, Would the 1D,4H and the 1H not be the right time frames? Most of the Youtube videos show you trading 1D and then 15m, isnt that too much of a difference in timeframe? I've tried 1D and 15m for a month but feel there's too much of a gap in the timeframe, but then I don't get enough trades trading the 1D and 1H. 2- As a day trader, how many trades am I supposed to...
In short and ive mentioned it in the passed, ''price always go back to the source of the move'', and its either a flag in price or cap in price. thats all trading is. when you get that youll be able to make a living from trading, and more.

The daily, 4h, and 1h is enough. but i can tell you, when you look at the higher timeframes like 4h and daily, you only get 1 trading signal to go long or short once every few weeks. the moment you look at the 1h, you get many trading signals in the week. you need to know what to look for when using multi time frame charts/analysis. many people on this forum dont draw their levels correctly and hence why the levels fail. theres always a reason why price moved up or down, always.

your second point is this. dont run after trades, let them come to you. so its not how many trades should i make, its what the charts give you.

PS. I see you are a student. if you are not an economics student, my advice to you is stay away from trading. focus on one profession, and become a master at it. dont water down your self by doing to many things at once. just my 2 cent.

I hope i answered you. if not, we can always skype if you like. the offer is there.
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  • #9,864
  • Jul 22, 2022 1:41am Jul 22, 2022 1:41am
Hello everyone,
I was very confused when when trying to determine what is the current trend is on daily, can anyone look at the chart and tell what is the current trend is exactly
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  • #9,865
  • Jul 22, 2022 9:11am Jul 22, 2022 9:11am
went short dollar, more like got triggered a short.
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  • #9,866
  • Jul 22, 2022 9:23am Jul 22, 2022 9:23am
Quoting Nitink
Hello everyone, I was very confused when when trying to determine what is the current trend is on daily, can anyone look at the chart and tell what is the current trend is exactly {image}
the definition of an uptrend is Higher highs and higher lows. dollar is going down which means USDJPY will go down into a lower demand, the demand you marked out at 1 was consumed by the spike down by 2.

If you cant define your trading trend, not sure what to say.
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  • #9,867
  • Jul 22, 2022 9:35am Jul 22, 2022 9:35am
XAUUSD flag. nice place to go short for a small one.

4h chart:
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on lower time frame, we have these demands to go long the same pair

15min chart:
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  • #9,868
  • Jul 22, 2022 1:12pm Jul 22, 2022 1:12pm
Quoting joe123
XAUUSD flag. nice place to go short for a small one. 4h chart: {image} on lower time frame, we have these demands to go long the same pair 15min chart: {image}
Didnt see this supply on 30min which we hit. so this demand that i showed wont hold as we are coming from a higher time frame supply into a lower time frame demand. i personally went long before i saw this. so am about to get knockd out.

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these are the demands that i see where price can pick up from.

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  • #9,869
  • Jul 23, 2022 1:09am Jul 23, 2022 1:09am
Quoting Nitink
Hello everyone, I was very confused when when trying to determine what is the current trend is on daily, can anyone look at the chart and tell what is the current trend is exactly {image}
Sideways. Uptrend MOM TL was broken. Currently, Price has neither removed SZ or DZ. Therefore, Trend is in sideways.
Zone 2 has neither broken MOM TL nor removed any zones.
@joe123 I think it would be nice to keep it respectfully, we all here to learn. No need to make someone feel bad abt themselves.
  • #9,870
  • Jul 23, 2022 1:27am Jul 23, 2022 1:27am
Quoting joe123
{quote} the definition of an uptrend is Higher highs and higher lows. dollar is going down which means USDJPY will go down into a lower demand, the demand you marked out at 1 was consumed by the spike down by 2. If you cant define your trading trend, not sure what to say. {image}
Hey hi Joe
My question was even though we haven't broken the up trend line ( A OHCL candle away from the up trendline) nor the Demand zone, is the price is still in uptrend,
If, it is in uptrend then why I am able to draw a Down trend line as you can see on the chart, so by definition we are making LL, and LH and can draw a Down trend but not Technically broken the Up trend , so what trend is this
  • #9,871
  • Jul 23, 2022 3:49pm Jul 23, 2022 3:49pm
Quoting Nitink
{quote} Hey hi Joe My question was even though we haven't broken the up trend line ( A OHCL candle away from the up trendline) nor the Demand zone, is the price is still in uptrend, If, it is in uptrend then why I am able to draw a Down trend line as you can see on the chart, so by definition we are making LL, and LH and can draw a Down trend but not Technically broken the Up trend , so what trend is this
based on the chart you provided, we are in an uptrend and prob going into a lower down demand level. trend is up tho.

i dont trade this pair so cant tell you.
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  • #9,872
  • Edited 4:07pm Jul 23, 2022 3:56pm | Edited 4:07pm
Quoting Nitink
{quote} Hey hi Joe My question was even though we haven't broken the up trend line ( A OHCL candle away from the up trendline) nor the Demand zone, is the price is still in uptrend, If, it is in uptrend then why I am able to draw a Down trend line as you can see on the chart, so by definition we are making LL, and LH and can draw a Down trend but not Technically broken the Up trend , so what trend is this
I dont like commenting on pairs i dont trade, but if we looking at the same chart which is USDJPY, on this one chart that you have shown, the up trend is still intact as long as we are above this demand on the daily. its also the most likley place that price is going to.
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Got to keep track of the dollar index as well when trading the majors.
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  • #9,873
  • Jul 23, 2022 4:03pm Jul 23, 2022 4:03pm
Quoting TradingSD
{quote} Sideways. Uptrend MOM TL was broken. Currently, Price has neither removed SZ or DZ. Therefore, Trend is in sideways. Zone 2 has neither broken MOM TL nor removed any zones. @joe123 I think it would be nice to keep it respectfully, we all here to learn. No need to make someone feel bad abt themselves.
yes you are right, sorry @ nitink.
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  • #9,874
  • Edited 6:35pm Jul 23, 2022 6:05pm | Edited 6:35pm
Quoting TradingSD
{quote} Sideways. Uptrend MOM TL was broken. Currently, Price has neither removed SZ or DZ. Therefore, Trend is in sideways. Zone 2 has neither broken MOM TL nor removed any zones. @joe123 I think it would be nice to keep it respectfully, we all here to learn. No need to make someone feel bad abt themselves.
i didnt say anything disrespectful, nor did i say anything to make her feel bad. all i said was not sure what to say. maybe it was the way i said it, so sorry for that.

but trading is not for everyone, if you dont get the basics and find it difficult, i think you should walk away. thats all.

but yes sorry if that came out wrong what i said. I didnt mean it to hurt you.
Indicators only Indicate, Price action dictates.
  • #9,875
  • Jul 24, 2022 4:21am Jul 24, 2022 4:21am
Quoting joe123
{quote} i didnt say anything disrespectful, nor did i say anything to make her feel bad. all i said was not sure what to say. maybe it was the way i said it, so sorry for that. but trading is not for everyone, if you dont get the basics and find it difficult, i think you should walk away. thats all. but yes sorry if that came out wrong what i said. I didnt mean it to hurt you.
It's okay. Just want ppl to feel okay asking basic questions, we all start from somewhere. Sometimes, we just need a little advice to help push us forward.
I love your motto btw, i'm with it too haha
  • #9,876
  • Jul 24, 2022 7:07am Jul 24, 2022 7:07am
went short EURGBP
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  • #9,877
  • Jul 25, 2022 12:39am Jul 25, 2022 12:39am
EURUSD
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  • #9,878
  • Jul 25, 2022 1:12am Jul 25, 2022 1:12am
GBPJPY
WK
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  • #9,879
  • Jul 25, 2022 7:47am Jul 25, 2022 7:47am
Hey guys, took two trades in weekly zones with confirmation, let's see what will happen
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  • #9,880
  • Jul 25, 2022 8:08am Jul 25, 2022 8:08am
went in manually this time because of 4h supply.
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keeping an eye out for the demand and supply on top of supply area. price could find resistance there before continuing lower, and maybe another short in the mamking.
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