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  • #1,581
  • Nov 15, 2006 2:11pm Nov 15, 2006 2:11pm
http://ss.gamers4jesus.com/Firebird2.htm

Here is a report of what I thought were Skyline's settings. This is using a 1min chart however and he uses 30m. The float is high but it is still a good account and I have since changed to match what he is actually using and test that. I only ran 4 pairs on this account at any one time but changed a few of them. William is the name on the demo account but it is me. I hope this helps someone.
  • #1,582
  • Nov 15, 2006 2:37pm Nov 15, 2006 2:37pm
traderlismiss

Hey Melissa ( William)

thats good....

I see from the report that the GBP/USD is giving the best returns..

  • #1,583
  • Nov 15, 2006 3:28pm Nov 15, 2006 3:28pm
Quoting glenn5t
traderlismiss

Hey Melissa ( William)

thats good....

I see from the report that the GBP/USD is giving the best returns..

I think the GBP/USD is giving the best returns mainly because it opens more trades. You agree? I am really pleased with the AUD/USD. It seems to go the right way everytime......so far.

You had asked about Phoenix before and I had forgot to reply. I thought Phoenix was the greatest thing ever when I first opened a demo. Big profits right away and not much float. But Phoenix does not play well (in my opinion) with a fast market and I lost my entire two week profit in just a few hours. The guy leading the big contest is using a modified version and he his kicking tail. He posted his actual contest EA and some people are having great success, not me. I will stick with Firebird for now.
Thanks.....

I already had 3 accounts with these guy and had to use some other names.
  • #1,584
  • Nov 15, 2006 3:43pm Nov 15, 2006 3:43pm
Melissa


My finding's with phoenix are the same as yours....Fire Bird appears to be the best one so far....
  • #1,585
  • Nov 15, 2006 5:10pm Nov 15, 2006 5:10pm
Quoting skyline
Hi Traderone ,
I'm using Firebird v063g on M30 charts with M30 in code this leads as far as I can see to a lower float loss because less orders are opened
Excellent Skyline. Thanks for your reply. That was my original reason for dropping back to the m5 from the m1.
Don Life is expensive, but includes a free trip around the sun.
  • #1,586
  • Nov 15, 2006 5:24pm Nov 15, 2006 5:24pm
I see folks are running the GBPUSD and AUDUSD.
I must admit I'm scared *&$#less of the GBPUSD. If you will study the daily charts for the past year you will notice that a couple of times annually the GBPUSD goes on a direct march for about 1000 pips or more in one direction, usually over about 4 weeks.

I think that would pretty well wipe out many of our accounts!

I have had good success with the the USDCAD on v63G_TS with only a trailing stop of 10. I think at this point I'd rather trade that one than GBPUSD.

Also, I've been thinking a lot about MoneyMa$ter's use of 150 Stop Loss.

I like it. If Firebird's reversal trades don't come back in 150 pips, then I say cut our losses and make more good trades. No reason to let it drag out to 300 slowly over time. That's expensive agony. But that's just me......
Don Life is expensive, but includes a free trip around the sun.
  • #1,587
  • Nov 15, 2006 6:14pm Nov 15, 2006 6:14pm
I'm not a very active poster here, but I have experimented with FB for quite a while now. Doing that I also analyzed the code in detail to understand its function. From there I can say that changing timeframes from 1M unto 30M does only change one thing: Initially done for backtesting, FB supresses new orders for the time of 2 bars after a trade has happend (open or close). This means that FB's running pure without TS should see smaller differences, if TS is used then differences could be substantial. Imagine a situation where price is above the channel and a order gets closed by TS, then with 1M a next trade could be opened after 2 minutes, with 30M only after 1h.

Happy trading

Swissly
  • #1,588
  • Nov 15, 2006 6:42pm Nov 15, 2006 6:42pm
I've only become engaged in this thread over the last several days (with many hours spent reading/researching). I've been keeping track of different people's settings along with changes that they've made. I'll probably post some kind of summary post soon as I'm about to deploy a number of demo tests based on settings from some of the more successful installations to date.

The problem (or maybe the beauty, depending upon your perspective) with these long threads is that they meander and at times it's very difficult to piece together exactly what others are doing.

These threads operate best when the first post points to an actively managed Web page which includes the following: FAQ, links to popular settings/versions/docs and/or key posts. Anything less than this leads to lots of folks wandering around asking the same questions over and over. (Hey, sort of like life huh?)

I'm aware of the accrete's Firebird mirror site (http://www.accrete.com/fx-mirror/mt4...a-archives.htm) which has some versions but doesn't yet have v2.0.

Maybe that site could be updated and we could all point to it regularly. Or, maybe if I really get going with this EA I'll just go ahead and create the kind of site that I think is needed. But, with any creation comes an obligation to maintain (sort of like raising kids!).

Quoting traderlismiss
Earlier in this thread there was someone keeping track of all the versions and settings. I am not sure who it was, but I remember it was early into the thread. I agree with MoneyMa$ter that it is easier and better for an individual to read through. Lots of good reading from the beginning.
  • #1,589
  • Nov 15, 2006 6:44pm Nov 15, 2006 6:44pm
Thanks for the clarification Mellisa!

Quoting traderlismiss
Sorry Bill but I just noticed your question as I was reading backwards through the threads. I never ran 6 pairs at one time. I was tweaking my EA and only ran three pairs at a time and there may have been an overlap of the 4th at some point. Like glenn5t, I am running aud/usd, gpb/usd and eur/usd now. I think either using glenn5t or skyline's settings you will be fine. I think my maximum float has been at it's high around $60.00. This on 50 cent lots
  • #1,590
  • Nov 15, 2006 6:59pm Nov 15, 2006 6:59pm
I inquired elsewhere about a tool to help track historical negative float. Viola! Some kind soul pointed me to the attached Equity Logger EA which tracks and logs to a CSV file changes to account equity. I think this is a perfect tool for testing/monitoring EAs such as Firebird where negative float can have a huge impact. I now have it installed on all of my systems which get into negative floats. Over time I may make enhancements to this EA in which case I'll be sure to share them here.

Enjoy!

Bill
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 EquityLogger.mq4   2 KB | 513 downloads
  • #1,591
  • Nov 16, 2006 12:29am Nov 16, 2006 12:29am
Sory u guys..i'm really newbie here...i have go through this threah from the beginning but i cant find any manual tu install this EA to metatrade...can anyone help me...

thanks!
  • #1,592
  • Nov 16, 2006 1:34am Nov 16, 2006 1:34am
Billworld - where would you attach equitylogger? You say it's an EA but surely it cannot go onto a chart with FB installed?

Quoting billworld
I inquired elsewhere about a tool to help track historical negative float. Viola! Some kind soul pointed me to the attached Equity Logger EA which tracks and logs to a CSV file changes to account equity. I think this is a perfect tool for testing/monitoring EAs such as Firebird where negative float can have a huge impact. I now have it installed on all of my systems which get into negative floats. Over time I may make enhancements to this EA in which case I'll be sure to share them here.

Enjoy!

Bill
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  • #1,593
  • Nov 16, 2006 1:37am Nov 16, 2006 1:37am
My thoughts exactly.



If you use it as a ea..would it not replace the Fire Bird ea.....???
  • #1,594
  • Nov 16, 2006 1:57am Nov 16, 2006 1:57am
Skyline a question...


Would it be possible to add a feature where the ea placed several lots in one order with several different stop losses. therefore removing lots as it moved through the traded.
The expert works by taking profit out of a trade at various take profit levels.

I found this ea which works well on manual trades.
  • #1,595
  • Nov 16, 2006 2:59am Nov 16, 2006 2:59am
Quoting Lord1700
Sory u guys..i'm really newbie here...i have go through this threah from the beginning but i cant find any manual tu install this EA to metatrade...can anyone help me...

thanks!
Select a Broker. Then register for a Demo account. Then download the MT4 Platform. Then install MT4 Platform onto your PC. Then click Help in top Menu Bar. Then click Help Topics. Then you have User Guide that explains how to get started. Then read Auto Trading section on how to use EA.

Wackena
  • #1,596
  • Nov 16, 2006 3:18am Nov 16, 2006 3:18am
Quoting glenn5t
Skyline a question...


Would it be possible to add a feature where the ea placed several lots in one order with several different stop losses. therefore removing lots as it moved through the traded.
The expert works by taking profit out of a trade at various take profit levels.

I found this ea which works well on manual trades.

Yes definitely it's possible ! My friend OrangeRoshan called this method defensive trading I did that in my latest Skypips v1.5 with really good result (1500 pips since 20 Oct in demo forward testing) , but please at this stage don't ask me for Skypips version because actually is under test and further development.
I will be happy to share it in this forum and I'm planning to open a new specific thread about Skypips but only if this board will enable author's thread to be able to change first post forever otherwise a lot of confusion will be generated like in this thread where new good modification was made but I cannot edit my first post to add them
If you agree with me please support my request here http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ad.php?t=10226

thx all

  • #1,597
  • Nov 16, 2006 3:39am Nov 16, 2006 3:39am
My brain is failing could someone help me.
When using the Equitylogger EA the following lines of code
Inserted Code
double b = AccountBalance();
double e = AccountEquity();
double m = AccountFreeMargin();
Inserted Code
datetime time = CurTime();
and then
Inserted Code
FileWrite( handle, time, AccountNumber(), b, e, m )
creates the excel file shown in the image below. I can't figure out the time which is column A I think. Is CurTime() in seconds from zero GMT plus date ? or not? If some one could tell me how the last entry in Col. A is read. It was logged at aprox 9:00 GMT and at 10:00 server time on Alpari and 01:00 my time.
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  • #1,598
  • Nov 16, 2006 4:17am Nov 16, 2006 4:17am
Quoting nvwine
My brain is failing could someone help me.
When using the Equitylogger EA the following lines of code
Inserted Code
double b = AccountBalance();
double e = AccountEquity();
double m = AccountFreeMargin();
Inserted Code
datetime time = CurTime();
and then
Inserted Code
FileWrite( handle, time, AccountNumber(), b, e, m )
creates the excel file shown in the image below. I can't figure out the time which is column A I think. Is CurTime() in seconds from zero GMT plus date ? or not? If some one could tell me how the last entry in Col. A is read. It was logged at aprox 9:00 GMT and at 10:00 server time on Alpari and 01:00 my time.
Try to display A column as a date , excel should convert it automatically into a date.

  • #1,599
  • Nov 16, 2006 5:21am Nov 16, 2006 5:21am
Quoting skyline
Yes definitely it's possible ! My friend OrangeRoshan called this method defensive trading I did that in my latest Skypips v1.5 with really good result (1500 pips since 20 Oct in demo forward testing) , but please at this stage don't ask me for Skypips version because actually is under test and further development.
I will be happy to share it in this forum and I'm planning to open a new specific thread about Skypips but only if this board will enable author's thread to be able to change first post forever otherwise a lot of confusion will be generated like in this thread where new good modification was made but I cannot edit my first post to add them
If you agree with me please support my request here http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ad.php?t=10226

thx all

I hope that everyone who has benefited from this thread will support Skyline in this proposal. This thread is responsible for the Firebird version most of us are using.
  • #1,600
  • Nov 16, 2006 5:28am Nov 16, 2006 5:28am
Quoting traderlismiss
I hope that everyone who has benifited from this thread will support Skyline in this proposal. This thread is responsible for the Firebird version most of us are using.
Thx Melissa too much kind your words
But I'd like to remember that I only start a thread trying to organize as much as possible information based on Firebird v63g and most thanks have to give to TraderSeven that is original Firebird developer.
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