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  • #361
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:12am Mar 21, 2022 8:12am
Just to be clear, I will no longer respond to the chief disrupter on this thread, @robots4me. I will not even read his posts.

@parisboy, thank you for your valuable input.
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  • #362
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:20am Mar 21, 2022 8:20am
Quoting parisboy
here CMA 256 (brown) has change its Anle from 2 ° down. Extenssion shows now 2 possible FP target at 149440 or 1,49400 . All that is graphically eye estimated {image}
Another question: The SMA(256) extension is just a continuation of the slope -- i.e. extrapolation. If the market had recently changed that SMA256 extension would still be there because the indicator drawing had ended long ago and it is not based on recent price data. Isn't that a concern?
  • #363
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:21am Mar 21, 2022 8:21am
Following the Trend with FLD's

I will not be available before 30 mn at least . Sorry for the exercise
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  • #364
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:23am Mar 21, 2022 8:23am
Quoting BestTraderEv
Just to be clear, I will no longer respond to the chief disrupter on this thread, @robots4me. I will not even read his posts. @parisboy, thank you for your valuable input.
Thank you for letting us all know... Anything else you would like to announce and that we should know about?
  • #365
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:28am Mar 21, 2022 8:28am
Quoting parisboy
Following the Trend with FLD's I will not be available before 30 mn at least . Sorry for the exercise {image}
So, I am reading this correctly?
The yellow elipse is the focal point, and the projection of the mid-line in the channel is the expected target for a Long?
(At this moment I'm just eyeing it, not calculating precisely.)
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  • #366
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:31am Mar 21, 2022 8:31am
PS. Sorry, I forgot to back shift it to when the low first appeared, so this is not the picture that was then.
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  • #367
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:37am Mar 21, 2022 8:37am
So, when the first Oscillator Bullish signal appeared (pointed by the yellow arrow), the DeepPink MA was where the other big yellow arrow is pointing.
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  • #368
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:43am Mar 21, 2022 8:43am
Short
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  • #369
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:53am Mar 21, 2022 8:53am
Take Profit
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  • #370
  • Mar 21, 2022 8:59am Mar 21, 2022 8:59am
Quoting BestTraderEv
Take Profit {image}
thats a great Chart, I have taken a similar Trade for 1% profits.. but I made a mistake closing the Trade too early (not because its now going, but based on my rules).
I should be up close to 3% instead.

I wont share the Charts since it has little to do with the Thread.

but your chart including the Channel is great
  • #371
  • Mar 21, 2022 9:23am Mar 21, 2022 9:23am
Quoting FundedCoffee
{quote} thats a great Chart, I have taken a similar Trade for 1% profits.. but I made a mistake closing the Trade too early (not because its now going, but based on my rules). I should be up close to 3% instead. I wont share the Charts since it has little to do with the Thread. but your chart including the Channel is great
I have just realised something!
It is my maths' problem that I've always been having - this is about angles - and that part of maths I hated the most and could never grasp.
I have been in these areas before, but couldn't make sense of it.
I went more by the path of Fibonacci, but no angles.
You know, the ballistic missiles thing - angles.
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  • #372
  • Mar 21, 2022 9:37am Mar 21, 2022 9:37am
Hello to all,
my first post here...
I seen that Parisboy has initiated the focal method here mainly by jim tillman, it's a good thing !

I wanted to contribuate too with my humble research that i shared a few hours early on the thread of Parisboy.

If it can help any to combine all...


Where theory rejoins the practice

Stats Based on last 256 days () from MES (micro SP500 future) 1min timeframe of period CMA 256(-128) and CMA 128(-64) including the minors CMA and number of cross together from each CMA :

=> The average of high to high on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-240bars
=> The average of high to low on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-120bars
=> The average of high to cross on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-80bars
=> The average of cross to low on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-40bars

=> The average of cross to cross on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-120bars

=> The average of low to low on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-240bars
=> The average of low to high on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-120bars
=> The average of low to cross on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-80bars
=> The average of cross to high on focal 256(-128) and minor CMA 128(-64) is +-40bars

=> 256(-128) crosses 64(-32) => average of 4
=> 256(-128) crosses 32(-16) => average of 8
=> 256(-128) crosses 16(-8) => average of 16
=> etc...

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  • #373
  • Mar 21, 2022 9:41am Mar 21, 2022 9:41am
So, this is the proper "explanation" of EURAUDH1 situation - the Brown MA where it was when the DeepPink MA made a Focal point.
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  • #374
  • Mar 21, 2022 10:20am Mar 21, 2022 10:20am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} Another question: The SMA(256) extension is just a continuation of the slope -- i.e. extrapolation. If the market had recently changed that SMA256 extension would still be there because the indicator drawing had ended long ago and it is not based on recent price data. Isn't that a concern?
I do not think so. Because I dosome things manually.

Hence, if the case, I can observe the slope(s) (mainly 256 and 128 ) changing.

Then I recalibrate (reprecise if necessary, the initial approximative target price
  • #375
  • Mar 21, 2022 10:32am Mar 21, 2022 10:32am
Quoting js497
Hello to all, my first post here... I seen that Parisboy has initiated the focal method here mainly by jim tillman, it's a good thing ! I wanted to contribuate too with my humble research that i shared a few hours early on the thread of Parisboy. If it can help any to combine all... Where theory rejoins the practice Stats Based on last 256 days () from MES (micro SP500 future) 1min timeframe of period CMA 256(-128) and CMA 128(-64) including the minors CMA and number of cross together from each CMA : => The average of high...

thank you JS497 for your post.

If I understand your post correctly. It is logical. As the system is based on Cycles underlined by Centered Moving Averages (templates for Envelopes), your count shows us that the "model)" 16/32/64/128/256 is very robust and close to reality

such statistics are very useful
  • #376
  • Mar 21, 2022 10:55am Mar 21, 2022 10:55am
Quoting js497
Hello to all, my first post here... I seen that Parisboy has initiated the focal method here mainly by jim tillman, it's a good thing ! I wanted to contribuate too with my humble research that i shared a few hours early on the thread of Parisboy. If it can help any to combine all... Where theory rejoins the practice Stats Based on last 256 days () from MES (micro SP500 future) 1min timeframe of period CMA 256(-128) and CMA 128(-64) including the minors CMA and number of cross together from each CMA : => The average of high...

your statistics show an almost by the book example of Cylicality

=> 256(-128) crosses 64(-32) => average of 4
=> 256(-128) crosses 32(-16) => average of 8
=> 256(-128) crosses 16(-8) => average of 16
=> etc...

what do you infer from this result ?
  • #377
  • Mar 21, 2022 10:59am Mar 21, 2022 10:59am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} thank you JS497 for your post. If I understand your post correctly. It is logical. As the system is based on Cycles underlined by Centered Moving Averages (templates for Envelopes), your count shows us that the "model)" 16/32/64/128/256 is very robust and close to reality such statistics are very useful
Thats why i posted it, you have asked me it in the past already, without can answer you justly. No problem .

Exactely, its logicaly a good average.
Too what we can look is that low to cross (or high to cross) are represented by 2/3 of period from low to high (or high to low or cross to cross), and the rest, means cross to high (or cross to low) are represented 1/3 of low to high (or high to low, or cross to cross), almost.

We can see too some occurences with numbers of crossing between some CMA. Logical.
  • #378
  • Edited 11:29am Mar 21, 2022 11:10am | Edited 11:29am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} your statistics show an almost by the book example of Cylicality => 256(-128) crosses 64(-32) => average of 4 => 256(-128) crosses 32(-16) => average of 8 => 256(-128) crosses 16(-8) => average of 16 => etc... what do you infer from this result ?
they are symetrical, for example ; when you get 2xCrossing (high to high or low to low) from cycle 128(-64) and 64(-32), you are in the half of cycle 256(-128) and 128(-64) in average historically
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  • #379
  • Mar 21, 2022 11:17am Mar 21, 2022 11:17am
Quoting js497
{quote} they are symetrical, for example ; when you get 2xCrossing (high to high or low to low) from cycle 128(-64) and 64(-32), you are in the half of cycle 256(-128) and 128(-64) in average historically
right. This means that we are more or less in Cyclic Mode.

When we are in a Trending mode UP Cycles make their Tops on the right and can be shorter in Time.
  • #380
  • Mar 21, 2022 11:18am Mar 21, 2022 11:18am
Quoting BestTraderEv
So, this is the proper "explanation" of EURAUDH1 situation - the Brown MA where it was when the DeepPink MA made a Focal point. {image}
Yes! that seems to be more accurate
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