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  • #1
  • First Post: Mar 5, 2022 1:04am Mar 5, 2022 1:04am
this is happening for more than 6 months already. from build 1340 till the last one i have 1353. and it is damn annoying!

the MetaTrader4 terminal is taking off the EA from the chart. After a restart usually. It also happens after a profile change (save profile -> load profile).

MetaQuotes are very much aware of that issue but they give no shit about it... i am almost 99% convinced this is on purpose. to get the users off the mt4 and move on with mt5.

i will be posting here, how their crap of software is removing the EAs from the bloody completely crap charts!
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #2
  • Mar 5, 2022 1:23am Mar 5, 2022 1:23am
today, as a saturday, i have decided, to install the os updates on my dunno how many vpses, all using win 2012 server as an os. here is the first one.

bloody stupid mt4 1353 crap of shit!

here is what i did less than an hour ago (twice a year or so):

1. check for updates.
2. select whatever and install.
3. restart required.
4. ok. let me close the mt4s (8 mt4s per username, two usernames on a vps)
5. closing all mt4s for both usernames using the exit button of the crappy application written with the programmers left legs.
6. restart the vps
7. login back to both user accounts on the vps, about a half an hour later
8. checking for more updates. one optional appears, install it. i am up to date.
9. starting the mt4 one by one on user 1.
10. opening the minimised charts (i usually minimise them for better cpu performance)
11. discovering kicked EAs out of the chart. removed. usually one EA per one mt4. but it could get worse if i do more restarts.

i have removed the real names of my indi/EA as not relevant for the problem/issue. also removed whatever settings were printed in the log. keeping the original log separately. expert log below:

0 07:27:49.880 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.880 RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.880 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.880 RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.896 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.896 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: removed
0 07:27:49.896 RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: uninit reason 9
0 07:27:49.974 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: removed
0 07:27:49.974 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: removed
0 07:27:49.989 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: removed
0 07:27:49.989 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: removed
0 07:27:50.005 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: removed
0 08:45:21.464 Compiling 'Maadik Hugiis EA 4.15'
0 08:45:21.464 Compiling 'Maadik Hugiis EA 4.22'
0 08:45:27.855 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: loaded successfully
0 08:45:27.870 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: loaded successfully
0 08:45:27.870 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1 inputs: MagicNumber=20001;
0 08:45:27.995 RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: initialized
0 08:45:28.089 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: loaded successfully
0 08:45:28.105 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: loaded successfully
0 08:45:28.105 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily inputs: MagicNumber=60001;
0 08:45:28.214 RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: initialized
0 08:45:28.370 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully
0 08:45:28.480 RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: initialized
0 08:45:31.105 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: (20001) 23:56:57: Initializing Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20...
0 08:45:31.292 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: (60001) 23:56:57: Initializing Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20...
0 08:45:31.308 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: initialized
0 08:45:31.308 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: initialized
0 08:49:11.199 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully
0 08:49:17.511 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: removed
0 08:49:27.245 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully
0 08:49:34.402 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1 inputs: MagicNumber=30001;
0 08:49:34.636 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: (30001) 23:56:57: Initializing Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20...
0 08:49:34.652 Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: initialized

here is the journal log:

1 00:20:20.567 '116XXXXXX': connect failed [No connection]
0 00:20:53.833 '116XXXXXX': login on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 3D (ping: n/a)
0 00:21:06.708 '116XXXXXX': login datacenter on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 3D (ping: n/a)
0 00:21:07.396 '116XXXXXX': previous successful authorization performed from 198.XXX.XXX.XXX
0 00:21:10.583 '116XXXXXX': auto connecting to a better access point Server 1D (ping is 92.10 ms)
0 00:21:11.067 '116XXXXXX': login on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 92.10 ms)
0 00:21:12.161 '116XXXXXX': login datacenter on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 92.10 ms)
0 00:21:12.411 '116XXXXXX': previous successful authorization performed from 198.XXX.XXX.XXX
1 03:03:31.989 '116XXXXXX': connect failed [No connection]
0 03:04:42.536 '116XXXXXX': login on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 4D (ping: n/a)
0 03:04:51.739 '116XXXXXX': login datacenter on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 4D (ping: n/a)
0 03:04:52.099 '116XXXXXX': previous successful authorization performed from 198.XXX.XXX.XXX
0 03:04:55.880 '116XXXXXX': auto connecting to a better access point Server 1D (ping is 91.30 ms)
0 03:04:56.474 '116XXXXXX': login on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 91.30 ms)
0 03:04:57.724 '116XXXXXX': login datacenter on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 91.30 ms)
0 03:04:57.989 '116XXXXXX': previous successful authorization performed from 198.XXX.XXX.XXX
2 07:27:49.896 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: removed
2 07:27:49.974 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: removed
2 07:27:49.974 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: removed
2 07:27:49.989 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: removed
2 07:27:49.989 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: removed
2 07:27:50.005 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: removed
0 07:27:50.146 MT.COOK MT4 build 1353 stopped
0 08:45:21.230 MT.COOK MT4 build 1353 started (Atlantic Pearl Ltd.)
0 08:45:21.230 Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard x64, IE 11, RDP, UAC, 16 x Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, IBRS), Memory: 14593 / 16383 Mb, Disk: 180 / 199 Gb, GMT+2
0 08:45:21.230 Data Folder: C:\Users\XXXXXXXXXXXXX\AppData\Roaming\MetaQuotes\Terminal\3AA39EDC429C09F949B81B81991DBD0B
0 08:45:21.464 Sources recompilation started
0 08:45:23.449 Sources recompilation finished (2 compiled in 1984 msec)
2 08:45:27.855 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 2.31 UT100Roll,M1: loaded successfully
2 08:45:27.870 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,M1: loaded successfully
2 08:45:28.089 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis 1.20 UT100Roll,Daily: loaded successfully
2 08:45:28.105 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,Daily: loaded successfully
2 08:45:28.370 Custom indicator RT Maadik Hugiis3 1.71 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully
0 08:45:29.355 '116XXXXXX': login on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 91.30 ms)
0 08:45:30.589 '116XXXXXX': login datacenter on MTCOOK-Demo 2 through Server 1D (ping: 91.30 ms)
0 08:45:30.839 '116XXXXXX': previous successful authorization performed from 198.XXX.XXX.XXX
0 08:45:34.745 '116XXXXXX': ping to current access point Server 1D is 90.71 ms
2 08:49:11.199 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully
2 08:49:17.511 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: removed
2 08:49:27.245 Expert Maadik Hugiis EA 4.20 UT100Roll,H1: loaded successfully

why MF? WHY?
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #3
  • Mar 5, 2022 1:32am Mar 5, 2022 1:32am
this EA remove from the chart did happen on 3 out 5 mt4 with EAs... let me run the user 2 mt4s and see what will happen there, mf!

edit: good news. on user 2 all mt4s ran with all EAs on their charts. no removed EAs by these mt4s...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #4
  • Edited 3:20am Mar 5, 2022 2:44am | Edited 3:20am
Quoting MoneyZilla
this EA remove from the chart did happen on 3 out 5 mt4 with EAs... let me run the user 2 mt4s and see what will happen there, mf! edit: good news. on user 2 all mt4s ran with all EAs on their charts. no removed EAs by these mt4s...
Check-out this link -- it may not be an MT4 problem. When the terminal starts the *** INITIAL*** incoming data will be different for a variety reasons. If the EA crashes because of a 'divide by zero' error then MT4 will remove the EA, which it should. As painful as it might be to hear this, there may be a bug in the EA that gets unmasked by ***INITIAL*** incoming data. You should search the code and look for all places where a division occurs. You should add code that checks whether the denominator is '0' and if it is then don't perform the division.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post13022292

If it was an MT4 bug it would likely occur 100% of the time. The fact that it often times doesn't occur should have you wondering what might be different during launches. What do you think happens each time you launch MT4? There is new data. Maybe your EA crashes when the default symbol is GJ but doesn't crash when the default symbol is EU. The data is different and that may unmask a bug in the code.

Your log file is really clear, but you refuse to believe it. The log file clearly says that your EA was removed!! It doesn't say why and it doesn't need to say why (though it would be helpful). The point is that MT4 encountered a problem when loading your EA and **intentionally** removed it so that it didn't corrupt the MT4 session. Do you think MT4 removes EAs for no reason? MT4 is a trading platform and we should be thankful that it attempts to validate the integrity of the non-MT4, 3rd-party software that professional and amateur programmers load into its address space.

Consider this -- MT4 was first released in 2005. It has / is being used by millions of people for over 17 years. Your EA is used by one guy for how long? Which do you think is more likely to have a bug? It's not that MT4 has never had a bug or doesn't currently have a bug, but simply from a probabilistic point of few. If your life depended on your answer and you could only answer once, which piece of software is more likely to have a bug? The software used by millions or the software used by one guy?

@MoneyZilla -- you will forever be wrestling with this problem until you are willing to contemplate the error might be yours.
  • #5
  • Mar 5, 2022 8:41pm Mar 5, 2022 8:41pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} Check-out this link -- it may not be an MT4 problem. When the terminal starts the *** INITIAL*** incoming data will be different for a variety reasons. If the EA crashes because of a 'divide by zero' error then MT4 will remove the EA, which it should. As painful as it might be to hear this, there may be a bug in the EA that gets unmasked by ***INITIAL*** incoming data. You should search the code and look for all places where a division occurs. You should add code that checks whether the denominator is '0' and if it is then don't perform...


lol what an absolute dribbling idiot
  • #6
  • Edited 5:18am Mar 6, 2022 12:04am | Edited 5:18am
Quoting JauntyLoon
{quote} lol what an absolute dribbling idiot
@JauntyLoon -- I think you intended to call me a "drooling idiot". Dribbling is what you do in basketball...

@JauntyLoon -- even though you are from UK and English is your native language, perhaps you should consider using Google Translate -- just saying...
  • #7
  • Mar 31, 2022 9:43am Mar 31, 2022 9:43am
despite that mt4 is a complete rubbish, still, we are doing the best we can. taking the best out of it.

the dev i work with since aug 2014 is the best one around!

this is how he made a prompt window on an indicator, making my days brighter every-time i want to reset the indi(s):

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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #8
  • Mar 31, 2022 10:56am Mar 31, 2022 10:56am
Quoting MoneyZilla
despite that mt4 is a complete rubbish, still, we are doing the best we can. taking the best out of it. the dev i work with since aug 2014 is the best one around! this is how he made a prompt window on an indicator, making my days brighter every-time i want to reset the indi(s): {image}{image}
MoneyZilla , what is this EA for just curious.
  • #9
  • Mar 31, 2022 3:21pm Mar 31, 2022 3:21pm
Quoting munchie
{quote} MoneyZilla , what is this EA for just curious.
this is an in-house build indicator. the dev said there are no prompt dialogs with the indicators. only with the eas. he offered this solution instead. when pressing the reset button this windows pops up for about 7-8 seconds or so. the texts inside this window is all dev's creation! haha:-)))
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #10
  • Mar 31, 2022 3:51pm Mar 31, 2022 3:51pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} this is an in-house build indicator. the dev said there are no prompt dialogs with the indicators. only with the eas. he offered this solution instead. when pressing the reset button this windows pops up for about 7-8 seconds or so. the texts inside this window is all dev's creation! haha:-)))
Thanks @MoneyZilla , even i dont understand.Too many thing to learn , I like to ask and learn.
  • #11
  • Mar 31, 2022 4:06pm Mar 31, 2022 4:06pm
Quoting munchie
{quote} Thanks @MoneyZilla , even i dont understand.Too many thing to learn , I like to ask and learn.
one learns only when fails.

my weekly failures account to facing the defeat of approximately 30-40 strategies. after every defeat, i change something inside each and single unique strategy. the ea supports almost an unlimited number of strategies. not literally, but my head explodes. literally explodes.

so, me is now very very very tiny close to my first goal. with my bro we are aiming at $1,000 USD a day. on a trading day. might be on a calendar day as well. will not complain.

there is some work to be done, but i have managed already to repeatedly to start a 3k demo account and turn it into 20-30k within a calendar month. the amounts of failures is enormous. 10 or 20 vs 1 success. but that success tells a lot and then is the foundation for everything that comes next.

i imagine i have about two more months to finish my day trade set ups. cause i am already fully finished with my annual trend set ups and there is little, maybe nothing, to add...

so failure. multiple failures. this is the key.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #12
  • Mar 31, 2022 5:42pm Mar 31, 2022 5:42pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} one learns only when fails. my weekly failures account to facing the defeat of approximately 30-40 strategies. after every defeat, i change something inside each and single unique strategy. the ea supports almost an unlimited number of strategies. not literally, but my head explodes. literally explodes. so, me is now very very very tiny close to my first goal. with my bro we are aiming at $1,000 USD a day. on a trading day. might be on a calendar day as well. will not complain. there is some work to be done, but i have managed already to...
  • #13
  • Mar 31, 2022 6:50pm Mar 31, 2022 6:50pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} one learns only when fails. my weekly failures account to facing the defeat of approximately 30-40 strategies. after every defeat, i change something inside each and single unique strategy. the ea supports almost an unlimited number of strategies. not literally, but my head explodes. literally explodes. so, me is now very very very tiny close to my first goal. with my bro we are aiming at $1,000 USD a day. on a trading day. might be on a calendar day as well. will not complain. there is some work to be done, but i have managed already to...
@MoneyZilla , no wonder you have more time to discuss the other subject .So you traded EA most of the time, enjoy your free time ,that why I see your chat all of the place economic ,political , war...you have plenty time to gossip ha.
  • #14
  • Mar 31, 2022 9:50pm Mar 31, 2022 9:50pm
been running EAs on MT4 for years. very stable. have you tried loading a different EA and see. one might thin it is a coding error on your side. did you check for errors? good luck. out!
  • #15
  • Apr 1, 2022 1:30am Apr 1, 2022 1:30am
Quoting 240z
been running EAs on MT4 for years. very stable. have you tried loading a different EA and see. one might thin it is a coding error on your side. did you check for errors? good luck. out!
so, you are saying mt4 is running super stable?

here is an EMPTY mt4. with NOTHING in it. not a single chart opened.

just see how many HOURS it takes to just login.
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all terminals are connected. once i REBOOT them? i am deeply fucked! the mt4 server scan works fine, but the terminal cannot connect the account to the bloody server! and it takes time! in HOURS. to just connect.
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i have made a video and send it to the broker, but without any improvement so far...

so, you suggest, it might be a coding error?

p.s. i have covered the name of the broker as i do not want to discredit the broker. i really like it very much.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #16
  • Apr 1, 2022 8:32am Apr 1, 2022 8:32am
servers effected by Conflict in Ukraine?
  • #17
  • Apr 4, 2022 12:15am Apr 4, 2022 12:15am
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} so, you suggest, it might be a coding error?
Hi,
Is there anything in the code of the EA that remove the EA something like:

void CloseOrders()
{
{ Blah Blah }
ExpertRemove();
}

Or
void DutyHours()
{
{ Blah Blah }
ExpertRemove();
}
Happy pips
Tomcat98
  • #18
  • Apr 4, 2022 1:14am Apr 4, 2022 1:14am
Quoting Tomcat98
{quote} Hi, Is there anything in the code of the EA that remove the EA something like: void CloseOrders() { { Blah Blah } ExpertRemove(); } Or void DutyHours() { { Blah Blah } ExpertRemove(); } Happy pips Tomcat98
will check that later today. last cold day here in Africa. wonderful for skiing. will close the ski season today. thanks for the tip.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #19
  • Last Post: Aug 3, 2024 10:48am Aug 3, 2024 10:48am
So, I haven't traded or used metatrader since around 2009 or so. Just coming back and trying to get into the swing of things. So, is the official word that ea's no longer work on metatrader?
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