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  • #821
  • Nov 14, 2006 4:42am Nov 14, 2006 4:42am
Quoting Hendrick
Here you have the results of 2 backward test for the USDJPY Mode 2.
Period 2006.5.1 2006.11.10
MM=false (see reports for the rest of the settings)

Test A Mode 1 Without other settings
Test B Mode 1 Mode2_Opentrade_2=22

Using the setting of Test B will decrease the MD but also the number of trades and the NetProfit. The setting Mode2_CloseFirstTrade is useless (thers's no test results for this setting). I even think the code for this setting is not working as planned. Will look at that.
As always: looking nice :-) Just one question: what was your starting balance please? 5000? Trying to beat your optimization of course ;-)
Thanks!
  • #822
  • Nov 14, 2006 5:49am Nov 14, 2006 5:49am
at this time now, phoenix is -ve in post BUY
  • #823
  • Nov 14, 2006 6:44am Nov 14, 2006 6:44am
Quoting alamanjani
Wau, i didn't understand everything in that tutor, but I still like it

I have one 'lazy' question. Say, someone sucesfully complete all steps and get 99% acurate data. Is it possible, to copy that file onto another computer and that way get 99% acurate data onto that computer? That way, you don't need to understand process and you still have chance to get 99% backtesting tool lol

Mario
Yes, you can definitely do this. You produce an FXT history file for the pair and timeframe you are interested in. This file must initially be moved from \experts\files (where it is created) into \tester\history (where the backtester looks to find it).
  • #824
  • Nov 14, 2006 8:46am Nov 14, 2006 8:46am
Quoting wackena
Hendrick's Phoenix Contest EA in the Championship compared to Phoenix Contest EA on my IBFX Live mini account last night.

Time Type Price S/L T/P
23:45 Buy 118.11 117.27 118.53 - Hendrick's Championship EA
22:30 Buy 118.15 117.30 118.56 - My IBFX Mini Live account

At present time, this Buy is in negative float.

Wackena
Hendrick's Championship EA closed above Buy order at 15:05 today at stoploss for a loss. My IBFX Live Mini closed at 13:33 today at stoploss for a loss. As of IBFX server time 14:45, I did not see new Buy on Hendrick's Championship EA. My Live account opened another usdjpy Buy as follows:

Time ---------------Type -- Price ---- S/L ----- T/P
2006-11-14 14:15 -- Buy -- 117.35 -- 116.51 -- 117.77

Wackena
  • #825
  • Nov 14, 2006 8:49am Nov 14, 2006 8:49am
i am at my office now...i will post the actual results tonight when i get home. Please understand, i am not downing Phoenix. Just wanting to come of an understanding why this is happening. Again, i will post the actual results tonight when i get home.
  • #826
  • Nov 14, 2006 9:39am Nov 14, 2006 9:39am
A small system with many adjustable parameters, "curve-fitting" for the symbol and the latest data. Isn't it the same idea as Neural Network?
  • #827
  • Nov 14, 2006 10:35am Nov 14, 2006 10:35am
I found a post on this forum that has a link to a tick data file for eurusd. It is a zip file just over 18 mb. Here is the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/1333387/EURUSD1_0.zip
I've downloaded the file and will be bactesting to see if % Model Quality improves over the present 90% level.

Wackena
  • #828
  • Nov 14, 2006 11:21am Nov 14, 2006 11:21am
I now have 8 losers in a row in my live account. I can't get over how bad Phoenix is doing. I switched from mode 3 to mode 2 and it opened up 2 more trades and they both stopped out. I am not getting down on Phoenix, but I sure would like to understand what is happening. I can see how well Hendrick is doing in the contest so I know something is out of sync on my side. My demo accounts are now being beat up as well. Just an observation on my part and this may not apply to anyone else but it seems that Phoenix can not perform well when the market is moving well. It seems to work much better in a choppy market. I would appreciate any suggestions anyone may have. (except "welcome to fx")


Thanks
  • #829
  • Nov 14, 2006 11:36am Nov 14, 2006 11:36am
Before I started this thread I had no idea that it would take so much time: answering all the questions, proposals and so on. Only yesterday I suddenly realized that it was no longer fun to work with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City>. All this work has a negative influence on my family, my regular work and my health. So I decided to be no longer part of this forum. It’s simply too much for one person. I will go back to my PC and try to find again the pleasure I had before in making Expert Advisors. Just me, my PC and MT4, which will be more than enough for the moment. I have no idea what my plans will be for the future. One thing is certain; I will continue the work on my EA’s. Transforming my crazy ideas about how to conquer Forex into Expert Advisors.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

<o> </o>

You’re all free to do with <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> whatever you like. But please be gentle to my baby. It’s an EA with a “soul” so don’t try to change the code too much, because if you do so, the “soul” will leave Phoenix and, believe me, Phoenix will end as so many EA’s before: on the scrapheap. She doesn’t deserve that!<o></o>

<o> </o>

I will always be available for advice if you want. The best solution for now I think is to point out someone in the forum that’s capable to coordinate the further development of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City>.<o></o>

<o> </o>

I wish you all the best !! <o></o>
  • #830
  • Nov 14, 2006 11:36am Nov 14, 2006 11:36am
Quoting traderlismiss
I now have 8 losers in a row in my live account. I can't get over how bad Phoenix is doing. I switched from mode 3 to mode 2 and it opened up 2 more trades and they both stopped out. I am not getting down on Phoenix, but I sure would like to understand what is happening. I can see how well Hendrick is doing in the contest so I know something is out of sync on my side. My demo accounts are now being beat up as well. Just an observation on my part and this may not apply to anyone else but it seems that Phoenix can not perform well when the market is moving well. It seems to work much better in a choppy market. I would appreciate any suggestions anyone may have. (except "welcome to fx")


Thanks
I'm seeing the same thing. Since mid last week, my Live Mini and both demos having several more loses than winners. I've noticed in all backtest results on Phoenix there are periods of few days to 1-2 weeks of more loses than wins. It could be just what you said, the difference between a rangeing to moderate trending market. I just hope this doesn't last too long. Now is when patients is a necessity to fx trading. Patients and hopefully only short term deep pockets.

Wackena
  • #831
  • Nov 14, 2006 11:45am Nov 14, 2006 11:45am
Quoting traderlismiss
I now have 8 losers in a row in my live account. I can't get over how bad Phoenix is doing. I switched from mode 3 to mode 2 and it opened up 2 more trades and they both stopped out. I am not getting down on Phoenix, but I sure would like to understand what is happening. I can see how well Hendrick is doing in the contest so I know something is out of sync on my side. My demo accounts are now being beat up as well. Just an observation on my part and this may not apply to anyone else but it seems that Phoenix can not perform well when the market is moving well. It seems to work much better in a choppy market. I would appreciate any suggestions anyone may have. (except "welcome to fx")


Thanks
I have used Phoenix (Mode 3) in my min IBFX live, too. It went up about 400 pips in three days, and then about two days, all disappeared. So I stoped it on Sunday. My demo with Mode is continuing, it went up about 300 pips, and now loss about 100pips. The timing to use Phoenix is very critical, too many singals generated. I will use it again until I understand the timing, and until I could filter out some bad signals.
  • #832
  • Nov 14, 2006 11:59am Nov 14, 2006 11:59am
Quoting forex4syg
I have used Phoenix (Mode 3) in my min IBFX live, too. It went up about 400 pips in three days, and then about two days, all disappeared. So I stoped it on Sunday. My demo with Mode is continuing, it went up about 300 pips, and now loss about 100pips. The timing to use Phoenix is very critical, too many singals generated. I will use it again until I understand the timing, and until I could filter out some bad signals.
Mode 3 is not reliable.
use Mode 1 or at least The Contest Phoenix Version.

Regards.
  • #833
  • Nov 14, 2006 12:10pm Nov 14, 2006 12:10pm
Same thing happened with my installs. It took the SL on the buy and then immediately rebought.

Quoting wackena
Hendrick's Championship EA closed above Buy order at 15:05 today at stoploss for a loss. My IBFX Live Mini closed at 13:33 today at stoploss for a loss. As of IBFX server time 14:45, I did not see new Buy on Hendrick's Championship EA. My Live account opened another usdjpy Buy as follows:

Time ---------------Type -- Price ---- S/L ----- T/P
2006-11-14 14:15 -- Buy -- 117.35 -- 116.51 -- 117.77

Wackena
  • #834
  • Nov 14, 2006 12:12pm Nov 14, 2006 12:12pm
Sorry to hear that Hendrick. Thank you for sharing and compensate bulk of time with us. I really really appreciate what you've done so far. We'll continue look into the Phoenix and wish you all the best in the contest. Good luck and god bless you.

Regards,

David
  • #835
  • Nov 14, 2006 1:10pm Nov 14, 2006 1:10pm
Saying “thanks” doesn’t come close expressing my gratitude for all the effort and generosity you have shown in the past but I’ll say it anyway: thanks!

I think it’s wise indeed to call it quits as soon as you notice your health and family start to suffer but nevertheless I’m also convinced that everyone here will agree that you will be greatly missed!

I sincerely wish you can find the enjoyment in making EA’s again like you did before!

One ‘final thought’ (that is not mine, I must admit, but I think is rather appropriate):
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“Slow down and everything you are chasing will come around and catch you”.

Hendrick, take care, all the best and don’t be a stranger!

Vince
  • #836
  • Nov 14, 2006 1:27pm Nov 14, 2006 1:27pm
Quoting VinceTheBeast

Saying “thanks” doesn’t come close expressing my gratitude for all the effort and generosity you have shown in the past but I’ll say it anyway: thanks!


Vince
Hendix,

I can't make my words sound so nice as Vinces, so I will then use his words. I second all he wrote - i think the same.

I wish you good luck and more happiness in the future. And thank you for all you shared with us!

Thank you,
Mario
  • #837
  • Nov 14, 2006 1:41pm Nov 14, 2006 1:41pm
Quoting dusktrader
Yes, you can definitely do this. You produce an FXT history file for the pair and timeframe you are interested in. This file must initially be moved from \experts\files (where it is created) into \tester\history (where the backtester looks to find it).
Thank you!
  • #838
  • Nov 14, 2006 1:42pm Nov 14, 2006 1:42pm
Quoting wackena

I found a post on this forum that has a link to a tick data file for eurusd. It is a zip file just over 18 mb. Here is the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/1333387/EURUSD1_0.zip

Wackena
Thank you, hope it works!
  • #839
  • Nov 14, 2006 3:04pm Nov 14, 2006 3:04pm
Quoting alamanjani
Hendix,

I can't make my words sound so nice as Vinces, so I will then use his words. I second all he wrote - i think the same.

I wish you good luck and more happiness in the future. And thank you for all you shared with us!

Thank you,
Mario
Thank you Hendix. All the best for you and your family!
  • #840
  • Nov 14, 2006 3:32pm Nov 14, 2006 3:32pm
thanks again Hendrick for sharing and supporting the developement of your successfull EA by just being in this thread. there sure is a limit to what one man can do alone and may you have peace and happiness coz u deserve what you want. but do not limit yourself to post further developements to this thread and we will be ready here to make it even better.

once again thank you.
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