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  • #35,281
  • Dec 27, 2021 10:49am Dec 27, 2021 10:49am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Another good excercise that might help would be, when you post a losing trade, try to post some comments on why you think the trade may not have worked. Any mistakes you think you could have made, what you could have maybe done different etc. It will probably help develop more of an understanding.
That's what I wrote above.
I don't know where I should entry. I know all or most of signals ,but there are not working.
A few guys from here got upset ,because I wrote that their advices are bullshit. Yes it was bullshit, because I heard change timeframe, take less positions etc.
I am trying to find help in analysis chart. Where I should entry. I changed timeframe - NOT WORKED. Took less positions - NOT WORKED.
It is just chart analysis, how to trade with volume. I didnt heard advices about this.
I am taking positions with trend I think, but in wrong places.

We are going to 2022 and I want to more learn about market, volume and everything to be a better trader.
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  • #35,282
  • Dec 27, 2021 10:52am Dec 27, 2021 10:52am
Quoting bandler
{quote} {image}wait for either a big up move or down move, mark the top wait for a retracement mark the low. Then use vsa to decide if you are in accumulation or distribution
I think that's a good example. Thank you.

Do you have more ideas where do you take entry? Or just a accumulation/distribution from wyckoff?
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  • #35,283
  • Dec 27, 2021 10:55am Dec 27, 2021 10:55am
I took 2nd long, first was SL and maybe i should wait for test this zone from up.
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  • #35,284
  • Dec 27, 2021 3:05pm Dec 27, 2021 3:05pm
Quoting trezo
{quote} I think that's a good example. Thank you. Do you have more ideas where do you take entry? Or just a accumulation/distribution from wyckoff?
Tbh I only really look to get in at these areas, if you look to get in while the market is marking up or down, the bus has already l left the station
  • #35,285
  • Dec 27, 2021 4:37pm Dec 27, 2021 4:37pm
Quoting trezo
{quote} That's what I wrote above. I don't know where I should entry. I know all or most of signals ,but there are not working. A few guys from here got upset ,because I wrote that their advices are bullshit. Yes it was bullshit, because I heard change timeframe, take less positions etc. I am trying to find help in analysis chart. Where I should entry. I changed timeframe - NOT WORKED. Took less positions - NOT WORKED. It is just chart analysis, how to trade with volume. I didnt heard advices about this. I am taking positions with trend I think,...
I dont think your gona win too many favours calling some of the advice given as bullshit mate. Some people have clearly put alot of effort into their posts to try and help without an ounce of gratitude.

You said that English is not your first language, so I can only assume that you come from an absolute warzone of a country where people are unappreciative in general, if thats the case then maybe I can understand your situation.
  • #35,286
  • Dec 27, 2021 5:37pm Dec 27, 2021 5:37pm
I think he is just frustrated. He should understand that this is a forum and many people is willing to share trading ideas and others are just here to share the experience or to pass time since trading is very lonely. People here is not mentoring or are going to reply every doubt that you have. What I have learned in FF in my 4 years as a member is that you can learn parts here and there but is very rare that someone is going to disclose 100% how they trade or mentor you, they will reply to some questions but you can't expect that they reply every single question.

I have to say that I have stay around this thread because people is willing to share a lot more than in other threads and they reply every single question not because I trade vsa which I don't but I have learned a lot here specially from HG and pres78

Peace
  • #35,287
  • Dec 27, 2021 5:58pm Dec 27, 2021 5:58pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} I dont think your gona win too many favours calling some of the advice given as bullshit mate. Some people have clearly put alot of effort into their posts to try and help without an ounce of gratitude. You said that English is not your first language, so I can only assume that you come from an absolute warzone of a country where people are unappreciative in general, if thats the case then maybe I can understand your situation.
Not all advices are bullshit. Dont think like that. I am nervous because here are a lot of good traders which are on top members of this forum, they are sharing their positions ,but cant help. A few or more were good and I thanks for that ,but a lot of it is just throwing simple sentences change timeframe etc.

Yes I am frustrated because I try to learn it, and there is not much material on the internet about vsa, so I try here.

You insult me, I believe that I am writing enough English to understand me.
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  • #35,288
  • Dec 27, 2021 7:18pm Dec 27, 2021 7:18pm
I think the issue is that every regular poster in this thread has told him to move away from the 1m. On the flipside, 1-2 posters chimed in and said they are doing just fine on the 1m (although I'm not sure if they even use VSA as their primary trading method?) and so he just digs his heels in. My unsolicited advice is that he reaches out to the people who trade the 1m and ask them for help, or pays someone to learn because he clearly doesn't have the makeup of someone who can be self-taught.

I think you guys are saints for how friendly you are to him. If he can't be respectful, blames everyone else for his shortcomings, and doesn't even have the humility to listen to advice from better traders, then he is contributing absolutely nothing and is making the thread a worse place. Tbh, it doesn't affect me either way because I put him on ignore months ago but I am concerned that he might cause some contributors to post less frequently.
  • #35,289
  • Dec 28, 2021 8:42pm Dec 28, 2021 8:42pm
IMO, nothing beats actual reps when it comes to getting better in trading, but I did stumble across a resource worth sharing imo.

There's a YouTube channel by the name of Jako McPorker. No courses or software to sell, just pure VSA. Nowadays he mostly just posts short, caption-only summaries of indices over the past trading week, but his older videos go in-depth in an educational manner that reminds me of Hidden Gap. I've only seen a handful of his videos so far, but they are good. So far, I can especially recommend his Shortening of Thrust video.

Happy holidays yall
  • #35,290
  • Dec 28, 2021 9:21pm Dec 28, 2021 9:21pm
Trezo's ingratitude betrays his acting entitled. Every piece of advice he has been given towards helping him improve he has binned as junk. Forex trading is a personal journey which means one must make the physical and mental effort to progress...not Trezo. He believes he should be lifted on a palanquin towards success. He needs more than luck to succeed with such obnoxious attitude.
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  • #35,291
  • Dec 28, 2021 9:24pm Dec 28, 2021 9:24pm
Quoting trezo
I know all or most of signals ,but there are not working.
I'm going to assume that you do know most of the signals. I don't actually believe you do, but for the rest of this post I will assume you do.

Quoting trezo
what I wrote above. I don't know where I should entry.
One of the things I have repeated many times is, What you want to see; Where you want to see. If you know most of the signals but don't where to enter, you should think about trading with Supply/Demand Zones. You will know when price is in a Supply Zone, I only want to go short. And when Price is in a Demand Zone, I only want to go long. Moreover, you will not be attempting to enter trades randomly on the chart. When price is not in a Zone, you will STAY ON THE SIDELINES. I am of course assuming you have a modicum of discipline; which hasn't been demonstrated as of yet in truth.

You can go to Youtube and search :

1. Supply/ Demand forex
2. Supply/ Demand Trading

Both of these will bring up a plethora of videos. Some are better than others. IT'S UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES ARE GOOD AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. YOU HAVE TO DO SOME WORK.

You can also search:

1. Order blocks
2. Order block trading
3. Trading forex with Order Blocks

Each of these will bring up a plethora of videos. Some are better than others. IT'S UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES ARE GOOD AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. YOU HAVE TO DO SOME WORK.

Once you have your Supply/Demand Zones on your chart, you are going to focus on this:

1. High to Ultra high volume signaling the activity of the Smart Money. If the Interval is UP with the next bar DOWN, SUPPLY has entered the market. Remember: Weakness (selling), when it appears, usually appears on UP bars.

2. Volume less than the previous two intervals signaling the Smart Money is NOT active. In this case, since SUPPLY entered, you are looking for low volume UP bars- No Demand. You are also looking for Failed Tests.

If you see these two things anywhere else on the chart but in one of your Supply Zones, you will do nothing. Except be grateful that you are able to recognize the footprints. of the Smart Money. But you will not take a trade.

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** Where do you place your stop? Either just above the high of the Ultra High volume bar or just above the top of the Supply Zone.

** What's the profit target? The closest opposing Zone. In other words, you are trading from a Supply Zone to the nearest Demand Zone.


1. High to Ultra high volume signaling the activity of the Smart Money. If the Interval is DOWN with the next bar UP, DEMAND has entered the market. Remember: Strength (buying), when it appears, usually appears on DOWN bars.

2. Volume less than the previous two intervals signaling the Smart Money is NOT active. In this case, since DEMAND entered, you are looking for low volume DOWN bars- No Supply. You are also looking for Tests.

If you see these two things anywhere else on the chart but in one of your DEMAND Zones, you will do nothing. Except be grateful that you are able to recognize the footprints. of the Smart Money. But you will not take a trade

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** Where do you place your stop? Either just below the low of the Ultra High volume bar or just below the bottom of the DemandZone.

** What's the profit target? The closest opposing Zone. In other words, you are trading from a Demand Zone to the nearest Supply Zone.

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Will you take losses? YES. You have to learn to. deal with losses or you might as well just stop trading. Period. To be honest, I have put you on ignore too. You've been given so much and done so little. Take this advice and run with it. You. gotta belive. I believe in you.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #35,292
  • Dec 29, 2021 1:28am Dec 29, 2021 1:28am
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} I'm going to assume that you do know most of the signals. I don't actually believe you do, but for the rest of this post I will assume you do. {quote} One of the things I have repeated many times is, What you want to see; Where you want to see. If you know most of the signals but don't where to enter, you should think about trading with Supply/Demand Zones. You will know when price is in a Supply Zone, I only want to go short. And when Price is in a Demand Zone, I only want to go long. Moreover, you will not be attempting to enter trades...
Another amazing post by Hidden Gap. Thank you always for your time and patience and for your generosity to share your knowledge.
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  • #35,293
  • Dec 29, 2021 3:42am Dec 29, 2021 3:42am
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} ... Take this advice and run with it. You. gotta belive. I believe in you.
I like your spirit.
Your time and efforts are appreciated.
  • #35,294
  • Dec 29, 2021 5:15am Dec 29, 2021 5:15am
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} ... What you want to see; Where you want to see....
Soo basically you laid out a trading plan here that shows traders how to trade a trending market. Then with this post you laid the ground work for how to trade a ranging market.

Too bad FF doesn't have an option to bookmark or sticky posts in threads, if they did these two posts would be 1st and 2st on this thread.
  • #35,295
  • Edited 9:34am Dec 29, 2021 5:26am | Edited 9:34am
EC long.

I jumped in too early when I saw the SO, I should have entered off the test.

YHVZ was on the lows and today opened well above the zone, showing us that we are favoring longs today. Price came down and found buyers at the 50% with a SO and test. No much else to say.
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  • #35,296
  • Dec 29, 2021 7:13am Dec 29, 2021 7:13am
could you share the link of your template, please.. this template
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  • #35,297
  • Dec 29, 2021 7:14am Dec 29, 2021 7:14am
Quoting Paulscaff1
SOS 6 on US30? {image}
are you using trade guider plugin, if no what was that diamond indicators, could you please share it
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  • #35,298
  • Dec 29, 2021 9:32am Dec 29, 2021 9:32am
Quoting PranithR
{quote} are you using trade guider plugin, if no what was that diamond indicators, could you please share it
I am mate.

But here is a link to one I was using before. MA in 3 Colours Diamonds.

It was posted earlier on this thread by a guy called Dvarrin.

https://www.forexfactory.com/attachm...hmentid=693961

Theres other different variations in the thread attachments.
  • #35,299
  • Dec 29, 2021 12:01pm Dec 29, 2021 12:01pm
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} I'm going to assume that you do know most of the signals. I don't actually believe you do, but for the rest of this post I will assume you do. {quote} One of the things I have repeated many times is, What you want to see; Where you want to see. If you know most of the signals but don't where to enter, you should think about trading with Supply/Demand Zones. You will know when price is in a Supply Zone, I only want to go short. And when Price is in a Demand Zone, I only want to go long. Moreover, you will not be attempting to enter trades...
Cool I will find out about this supply demand zones.

I know that these big candles with high volume means possible selling/buying and the next bars are confirming it.

Good post, good advice.

You think that I am not listening to you, but when I see valuable posts like this I am grateful.

I am not anymore listening to these guys whos talking that I have everything in ass... I am learning, asking here because I see that HG or Anotan are giving valuable posts ,but someguys are talking bullshit sometimes, thats why I am upset.

HG maybe you ignored me, but I think you are giving good advices you didn't disappoint me any way, and your advices are great.

I will again try to use your trading plan, but earlier it didnt worked for me.

Greetings guys.
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  • #35,300
  • Dec 29, 2021 12:49pm Dec 29, 2021 12:49pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{q
uote} I am mate. But here is a link to one I was using before. MA in 3 Colours Diamonds. It was posted earlier on this thread by a guy called Dvarrin. https://www.forexfactory.com/attachm...hmentid=693961 Theres other different variations in the thread attachments.
thanks, but I am asking about the SOS SOW signal indicator. if you have one free indicator kindly share the link
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