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  • #21
  • Nov 27, 2021 10:06pm Nov 27, 2021 10:06pm
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} Only an idiot or the one who is not serious can argue here, given principle means of we give you $25K fund, and we says you can't lose $5000 on our given 25k means its 5000 loss, only an idiot lose that much money and that too on our capital not running balance, are you serious?
So 25% of $25K is 5K?

Clearly English isn't your native tongue and apparently, math isn't your specialty either.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #22
  • Nov 28, 2021 1:24am Nov 28, 2021 1:24am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} So 25% of $25K is 5K? Clearly English isn't your native tongue and apparently, math isn't your specialty either.
No, 6250 to be precise, it was just used as an example term a rough figure.
  • #23
  • Nov 28, 2021 4:47am Nov 28, 2021 4:47am
I was the first to say that most prop funds are designed with limited DD to make people lose their fees but then I was ban from another thread.

glad people came to their sense now
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #24
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:21am Nov 28, 2021 5:21am
Quoting PaulMF
They are a fraud. They are trolling this trading forum with their gambling businesses. We, some trading professionals in this forum, call them fake prop-firms and prop-gambling firms. I'm in. I will be a vibrant contributor to this thread. Thanks for your contribution.
He's got you fooled too. He has his own prop firm. https://www.tradespartans.com/
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:23am Nov 28, 2021 5:23am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} 100% fraud bro, its a running illegal brokerage without getting broker license and avoiding brokerage formalities.
You are doing the same, running an illegal brokerage without getting broker license and avoiding brokerage formalities.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #26
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:31am Nov 28, 2021 5:31am
Trader Roy aka Tradelevel, Facebook profile.

Why the anonymity about your prop firm?

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  • #27
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:40am Nov 28, 2021 5:40am
Quoting Muhammedfx
I was the first to say that most prop funds are designed with limited DD to make people lose their fees but then I was ban from another thread. glad people came to their sense now
See, their bots now attacking me here on this thread. lol
  • #28
  • Nov 28, 2021 7:46am Nov 28, 2021 7:46am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} See, their bots now attacking me here on this thread. lol
I just saw your website, if it is a really true offering then it will be a game-changer, I liked the rules.
25 percent of DD or loss restriction is fair enough not like other firms who offer 5 percent DD and want 10 returns in a month.

those who ask for a 10 percent return in a month are clearly behind the fees of the subscribers.
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #29
  • Nov 28, 2021 8:09am Nov 28, 2021 8:09am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} See, their bots now attacking me here on this thread. lol
Kindly check my personal message and reply on my email if you are suspended here

[email protected]
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #30
  • Nov 28, 2021 8:19am Nov 28, 2021 8:19am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} See, their bots now attacking me here on this thread. lol
Cryptosurf has been proven to back FTMO for a while. This member is famous for disrespectful posts, continuously violating many rules of the code of conduct, and what is worse: suspending any member who says, politely, something that does not align with his thoughts.

He is a senior member and has that privilege, but you have just shared your opinion politely, and your membership will be admitted again very soon. I have been temporarily suspended by this member and many of the like many times. No worries, depending who suspends you, the fact gives more value to your opinions.

You may see my ignore list in order to know many of those who pertain to at least one of the following categories:
- post disrespectfully,
- are suspected to be staff or additional user names of fake prop-firms,
- applaud insults,
- clog thread,
- continuously asking for bans without proper arguments.
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  • #31
  • Nov 28, 2021 8:30am Nov 28, 2021 8:30am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} 25% if you lose on our given capital, what do you expect? Its not a dd rule like ftmo or other prop scams, their DD rule is 5% on your open balance, thats a scam, are you a kid bro? Who the hell lose 25% that too on our capital not running dd.
How much more ignorant can a person be?

You either have rules or you don't. You can't make such stupid statements and expect to be taken seriously.
You say there are no max DD rules, yet a loss of 25% on the account closes the account?
Paula 2.0, if you have not realized, your offered max DD is 25%.

Quoting Muhammedfx
I was the first to say that most prop funds are designed with limited DD to make people lose their fees but then I was ban from another thread. glad people came to their sense now
Lmao i'm 100% sure that's not the reason you were banned.
  • #32
  • Nov 28, 2021 8:41am Nov 28, 2021 8:41am
Quoting Cryptosurf
Trader Roy aka Tradelevel, Facebook profile. Why the anonymity about your prop firm? {image}{image}
Be aware that you are entering in an extremely dangerous scenario. You are revealing a real identity.

Quoting Koop
{quote} How much more ignorant can a person be? You either have rules or you don't. You can't make such stupid statements and expect to be taken seriously. You say there are no max DD rules, yet a loss of 25% on the account closes the account? Paula 2.0, if you have not realized, your offered max DD is 25%.
I didn't say anything that supports that model. Tradelevels is polite so I am. We just share opinions. When mines align with them, I will reflect that in my posts. Just that.

I'm Paul, not Paula (I insist). Your misogynistic comments are unacceptable.

Mr E.U. relax and stay silent or you will finally regret. My patience has a limit. Got it?
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  • #33
  • Nov 28, 2021 9:24am Nov 28, 2021 9:24am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} Don't believe me or don't open account with us, that's ok, my thread here is about exposing fraud prop model, yes some may like and some who are dreaming of making big from fraud and virtual funding which never existed in reality will understand this later after losing few challenges. I am not here to offend you or insult you, I am just explaining the reality behind fraudulent prop firm model and that it is nothing personal.
Your thread is about exposing fraud prop firm model, with the hidden agenda of driving that traffic of "those you are saving" from fraud to your scam prop firm. Classic scamish behavior at it's finest.
  • #34
  • Nov 28, 2021 9:25am Nov 28, 2021 9:25am
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} No, 6250 to be precise, it was just used as an example term a rough figure.
Can't use "rough" figures in this business BRO.
  • #35
  • Nov 28, 2021 9:38am Nov 28, 2021 9:38am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Be aware that you are entering in an extremely dangerous scenario. You are revealing a real identity. {quote} I didn't say anything that supports that model. Tradelevels is polite so I am. We just share opinions. When mines align with them, I will reflect that in my posts. Just that. I'm Paul, not Paula (I insist). Your misogynistic comments are unacceptable. Mr E.U. relax and stay silent or you will finally regret. My patience has a limit. Got it?
Shut Up Paula!!!! haha Your 3rd grade threats and patience can kiss my black behind Paula.
You're a Jealous attention seeking whore who would share a vibrator with the Devil if he said "Prop Firm Bad!!"
You're so mentally limited to the point that you can't see that you are indirectly helping to push a dishonest and potentially fraudulent agenda by the starter of this thread. All that matters is gaining new soldiers for your whiny army?
  • #36
  • Nov 28, 2021 9:51am Nov 28, 2021 9:51am
I missed all the drama as well. The funniest thing about these clowns is they keep saying we are "employees" or "fans" or whatever term they use of FTMO and MFF. I do not work for, earn any commission from, and I'm 99% sure none of us in the prop firm thread do not either. We are simply traders sharing real world experience of the prop firms WE ACTUALLY USE AND GET PAID FROM. We are exposing what is wrong with 99% of the other firms that are ACTUALLY SCAMS....undercapitalized, hidden rules, fee costing more than DD provided, etc... I believe this was the CORE intention of the prop firm thread.

Taki shared MFF with me, he didn't send an affiliate link, I shared my experience with cryptosurf, I did not send him an affiliate link. I used an affiliate link ONE TIME when I BOUGHT my son an evaluation. I PAID for the evaluation, lol, so it was far from income. What I truly don't get is, these clowns have never used any of these companies, but yet they have this HUGE problem with them scamming people, yet when I search, I cannot find any evidence of such.

The fact that people lose IS NOT A SCAM, if so, every broker in the world is a scam. Not delivering what you are telling folks IS A SCAM, and, once again, MFF and FTMO are heads and shoulders above everyone as far as full transparency of what they offer. Every other company, we have to dig through pages on the website, but we find it. In all reality, we are better at exposing the scams than these clowns that are are screaming about THE WRONG COMPANIES. It is truly comical at this point.
  • #37
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:02pm Nov 28, 2021 5:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
I missed all the drama as well. The funniest thing about these clowns is they keep saying we are "employees" or "fans" or whatever term they use of FTMO and MFF. I do not work for, earn any commission from, and I'm 99% sure none of us in the prop firm thread do not either. We are simply traders sharing real world experience of the prop firms WE ACTUALLY USE AND GET PAID FROM. We are exposing what is wrong with 99% of the other firms that are ACTUALLY SCAMS....undercapitalized, hidden rules, fee costing more than DD provided, etc... I believe this...
You have never proven anything about you being a trader that gets regularly paid. Paying for flipping a coin, and doing it many times till you get a fake account and some payout that do not cover the losses of so many attempts, don't make you a profitable trader, nor it makes these companies prop-firms.

You have never shared any TE, MyFXBook, etc. account that could sustain nothing relative to you being a profitable trader who knows how to get funded. Any trader in this industry knows that when someone is capable of getting one month 10%, the consecutive 5%, and keep winning in the upcoming months and over the years, the first thing that someone will do is to share that via any company that audits those results (FF's Trading Explore, MyFXBook, etc). That leads to much more capital to trade than the "capital" offered by FTMO or MFF. No one with some experience in the field will ever believe you are a real profitable trader who gets paid on a monthly basis in any of these firms.

Being said that, it makes sense to believe you are part of some fake prop-firm's team. Because, you only appear to post when someone has said something that unveils the real intentions of the companies you protect. You never miss insults among your arguments.

Most members in this forum and in any place in this world think exactly the same about FTMO and MFF except you, a reduced group of supporters that operate in the commercial section of this forum. All you have the same in common: insults, disrespectful posts, misogynistic comments, political comments, etc.

For those newbies, please, before considering paying any fee to these fake trading firms, you may watch this BBC documentary that aligns with what I, and other professionals, have said many times in this forum: INSTATRADERS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU7MFz-opO0).
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  • #38
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:07pm Nov 28, 2021 5:07pm
Quoting Tradelevels
{quote} No, 6250 to be precise, it was just used as an example term a rough figure.
Glad to have you back! These guys never change.
Always ready to help
  • #39
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:10pm Nov 28, 2021 5:10pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You have never proven anything about you being a trader that gets regularly paid. Paying for flipping a coin, and doing it many times till you get a fake account and some payout that do not cover the losses of so many attempts, don't make you a profitable trader, nor it makes these companies prop-firms. You have never shared any TE, MyFXBook, etc. account that could sustain nothing relative to you being a profitable trader who knows how to get funded. Any trader in this industry knows that when someone is capable of getting one month 10%,...
Finally got unmanned, when people run out of genuine argument misuse the power
  • #40
  • Nov 28, 2021 5:15pm Nov 28, 2021 5:15pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You have never proven anything about you being a trader that gets regularly paid. Paying for flipping a coin, and doing it many times till you get a fake account and some payout that do not cover the losses of so many attempts, don't make you a profitable trader, nor it makes these companies prop-firms. You have never shared any TE, MyFXBook, etc. account that could sustain nothing relative to you being a profitable trader who knows how to get funded. Any trader in this industry knows that when someone is capable of getting one month 10%,...
Bro, its very simple, not against any prop firm or not here to advertise any of my service, the fact will never change, propnfirms are illegal brokers who are running a fake brokerage services without following brokerage normals, they are charging $190 on 10K challenge and giving you $500 credit line just like all other brokers in market who are giving bonus on deposit only difference those other brokers have no DD and you can go negative till last penny of Bonus here they have ridiculous DD rule to loot and to make sure no one ever win.
Advertising creating fake YouTube videos and reviews not new in marketing, when I say we do not know those in videos personally means that's a fact they are not my friends or cousin so who is behind video stays mystery.
Second all those guys either defending this fraud Models are either from poor countries or poor financial back ground who really have no knowledge about how brokerage works. Or many of their bots and employee whose work is just to silent anyone raise question against them by insulting them or sighting fake proofs and this marketing tactic also not new.
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