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  • #2,221
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:01am Nov 8, 2021 6:01am
Quoting simnz
{quote} In fact I trade FDXS (5 units) as an hedge to FDXM (1 unit). Like me, several other traders must be using it to take full advantage of Margin Class of Eurex which will calculate margins on a daily basis taking both contracts. If I buy 1 unit of FDXM from what I perceive to be a support line, I put up pending orders of 5 units of FDXS downwards to sell at what I think is Support 1 (example -100 pips) , so my drawdown is controlled and limited to 100 pips. Margin Class will only deduct from my margin only 100 pips and not use any margin call....
Yes, and the daily basis margin calculation made by Eurex it's only due to the lack of overnight cost for FUTURES, more or less.
But it could become a deadly machine to force some/many traders to close their positions........
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,222
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:10am Nov 8, 2021 6:10am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} Yes, and the daily basis margin calculation made by Eurex it's only due to the lack of overnight cost for FUTURES, more or less. But it could become a deadly machine to force some/many traders to close their positions........
Eurex is trying to increase business opportunities for brokers and make money for the exchange as well.
So they have 3 types of contracts for DAX40.
Looks like they are succeeding in their objectives.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #2,223
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:22am Nov 8, 2021 6:22am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} WOW! Mighty7 is back , I guess last time was the night we won EURO FINAL. How you're doing? Beautiful pics, as usual from you, but I wish to ask you, whole trip by boat? I guess you posted your dog pic before here, probably under Berlin snow if I remember well..... Sorry for your Hetha, even Union Berlin is in Conference League this season.......


Yes, I'm back and also back to trading. This time we go with our RV. Boat was sold some time ago.
As a long-time Hertha supporter, it's not that easy this time, but I'm also with Union. Union has a good spirit.
And to complete the Covid theme... My wife and I got our booster last Saturday but we're still very careful.
It could be worse.
  • #2,224
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:51am Nov 8, 2021 6:51am
Quoting simnz
{quote} Eurex is trying to increase business opportunities for brokers and make money for the exchange as well. So they have 3 types of contracts for DAX40. Looks like they are succeeding in their objectives.
Yes, probably you're right.....
FDAX for Bigplayers, Institutionals
FDXM for medium HedgeFunds, some Institutionals, big/medium retailers
FDXS for Brixen and friendss..... I'm joking, I mean for small , private investors.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,225
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:53am Nov 8, 2021 6:53am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} I have now 5 FDXS 16022, some additionals waiting 16k zone and below, until 96...zone = 973 DAX CASH INDEX official 1st gap open. I expect a dive below 16k, possible a fast spike down, but you cant easly predict this beast..... I'll back for US session, I guess this week will start 15:30CET and not 14;30CET.
I have now 6 FDXS 16020 as 1 additional was triggered at 08.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,226
  • Nov 8, 2021 6:55am Nov 8, 2021 6:55am
Quoting simnz
{quote} Eurex is trying to increase business opportunities for brokers and make money for the exchange as well. So they have 3 types of contracts for DAX40. Looks like they are succeeding in their objectives.
The simple reason is that the bigger DAX contracts are often not tradable for smaller traders (anymore) because of the risk and high (ESMA) margins.

So many (little) traders moved to CFDs. They had to do something to turn the tide.

EUREX and Brokers earn the most on little traders/scalpers. Many little Scalp trades means bringing liquidity to the (DAX) market.

But Today nobody is earning any money in this sideways range. Very low Volume
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  • #2,227
  • Nov 8, 2021 7:02am Nov 8, 2021 7:02am
Quoting Dutchy Daxy
{quote} The simple reason is that the bigger DAX contracts are often not tradable for smaller traders (anymore) because of the risk and high (ESMA) margins. So many (little) traders moved to CFDs. They had to do something to turn the tide. EUREX and Brokers earn the most on little traders/scalpers. Many little Scalp trades means bringing liquidity to the (DAX) market. But Today nobody is earning any money in this sideways range.
Sideway Range mainly helps market makers to lure options sellers .
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #2,228
  • Edited 7:30am Nov 8, 2021 7:17am | Edited 7:30am
Quoting Dutchy Daxy
{quote} The simple reason is that the bigger DAX contracts are often not tradable for smaller traders (anymore) because of the risk and high (ESMA) margins. So many (little) traders moved to CFDs. They had to do something to turn the tide. EUREX and Brokers earn the most on little traders/scalpers. Many little Scalp trades means bringing liquidity to the (DAX) market. But Today nobody is earning any money in this sideways range. Very low Volume {image}
Volumes are important but I'd put the things in this way: calculation based on today volumes you showed multiplied for nominal value (for instance 400k € for FDAX and so on).

FDAX: 9.418.000.000 € = 100

FDXM: 1.120.320.000 € = 12

FDXS: 146.960.000 € = 1,5


The comparison make clear (obviously) who and how lead the game and who are the followers and their weight, their tiny weight for small traders.
There is no match in this game.

P.S.: then obviously every kind of trader has his own margin reserved calculated on Future nominal value.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,229
  • Nov 8, 2021 7:25am Nov 8, 2021 7:25am
Quoting Mighty7
{quote} Yes, I'm back and also back to trading. This time we go with our RV. Boat was sold some time ago. As a long-time Hertha supporter, it's not that easy this time, but I'm also with Union. Union has a good spirit. And to complete the Covid theme... My wife and I got our booster last Saturday but we're still very careful.
Good , very good Mighty!
Unfortunately main worldwide Indices, more or less, are in freezing and lethargic mode, so I hope for me, you and all of us things will change.

Union Berlin plays a good football supported by passionate fans.
It's a beautiful thing and I appreciate very much that an Hetha fan as you is happy for their performances.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,230
  • Nov 8, 2021 7:50am Nov 8, 2021 7:50am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} I have now 6 FDXS 16020 as 1 additional was triggered at 08.
033 and 032 closed now 2 FDXS 020
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,231
  • Nov 8, 2021 7:52am Nov 8, 2021 7:52am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} 033 and 032 closed now 2 FDXS 020
+13 AND +12 p FDXS=+25 p FDXS=+5 pips FDXM

I have now 4 FDXS 16020.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,232
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:08am Nov 8, 2021 8:08am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} +13 AND +12 p FDXS=+25 p FDXS=+5 pips FDXM I have now 4 FDXS 16020.
039 closed another FDXS now for +19 p FDXS=+4 pips FDXM
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,233
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:16am Nov 8, 2021 8:16am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} 039 closed another FDXS now for +19 p FDXS=+4 pips FDXM
i HAVE NOW 3 fdxs 16020.
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,234
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:27am Nov 8, 2021 8:27am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} Everyone has his own idea about it.
well yes that's my point. let everyone have his own opinion. but if people try to force others into this crap, we are talking about something different.
your chance (if you catch it) is not 50%. depending on your age group (i suppose 50-60) and if you have no serious other factors, it's way below 1%. we know this nowadays, there is no doubt. there is so much data and so much scientific studies now. i have read a lot scientific stuff in this field in the last 18 months, and i can say with confidence that i know quite some things about virology, immunology, biostatistics etc. but i am not here to debate everyone about these things. i don't care what people do if they leave me alone and do not force me into something. i just want to maket this point that you highly overstimate the risk it poses to you, if you guess it to be in the range of 50%.

ok back to trading. i need 20 points upwards to go flat with a smile
  • #2,235
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:32am Nov 8, 2021 8:32am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} i HAVE NOW 3 fdxs 16020.
047 closed anothe fDXS now
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,236
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:32am Nov 8, 2021 8:32am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} 047 closed anothe fDXS now
+27 p FDXS=+5,5 pips FDXM

I have now only 2 FDXS 16020
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,237
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:34am Nov 8, 2021 8:34am
Quoting karuner
{quote} well yes that's my point. let everyone have his own opinion. but if people try to force others into this crap, we are talking about something different. your chance (if you catch it) is not 50%. depending on your age group (i suppose 50-60) and if you have no serious other factors, it's way below 1%. we know this nowadays, there is no doubt. there is so much data and so much scientific studies now. i have read a lot scientific stuff in this field in the last 18 months, and i can say with confidence that i know quite some things about virology,...
OK, we have different opinion about it......lets trade until I can.....as nothing's sure about tomorrow!
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,238
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:39am Nov 8, 2021 8:39am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} OK, we have different opinion about it......lets trade until I can.....as nothing's sure about tomorrow!
that's why we're here yes!, of course for the music and holiday pics as well. when people can politely agree to disagree, then we have a good society. everything else will end in desaster.

what interests me now - will we touch 100 today?
  • #2,239
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:44am Nov 8, 2021 8:44am
Quoting karuner
{quote} that's why we're here yes!, of course for the music and holiday pics as well. when people can politely agree to disagree, then we have a good society. everything else will end in desaster. what interests me now - will we touch 100 today?
If I was forced to bet, let say tomorrow around 11CET, around German ZEW data ........
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
  • #2,240
  • Nov 8, 2021 8:45am Nov 8, 2021 8:45am
Quoting Brixen
{quote} +27 p FDXS=+5,5 pips FDXM I have now only 2 FDXS 16020
Target 060/070 zone (today/friday highs) for 1 FDXS , No target for the other one for now
I call upon my father's spirit , watching over me
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