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  • #34,641
  • Oct 21, 2021 9:29am Oct 21, 2021 9:29am
meh...
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  • #34,642
  • Oct 21, 2021 9:36am Oct 21, 2021 9:36am
nasdaq knocking on yesterdays highs .. if she can break we may have a runner.

As i said yesterday messy down day is a test normally i was looking for buys in nasdaq today

if gold ends like this today it may also be a test day . we are in an area of massive supply but its not dropping
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  • #34,643
  • Oct 21, 2021 9:49am Oct 21, 2021 9:49am
es busting to take out ath .... we may have good runner today
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  • #34,644
  • Oct 21, 2021 9:54am Oct 21, 2021 9:54am
gold being a bitch as always i do not know why I bother trading it .. sow all over charts. The bar i entered on was supply on 30 .... hopefully will get sow in the nesr future for move to 1771. As i mentioned we seem to have limited sell interest now even though its weak
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  • #34,645
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:02am Oct 21, 2021 10:02am
Quoting trezo
meh... {image}
Looks like fear gripped you.
  • #34,646
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:04am Oct 21, 2021 10:04am
Quoting malcolmb14
gold being a bitch as always i do not know why I bother trading it .. sow all over charts. The bar i entered on was supply on 30 .... hopefully will get sow in the nesr future for move to 1771. As i mentioned we seem to have limited sell interest now even though its weak {image}
gold can be a real pain .. weakness all over this charts .. no sellers to force it down ...maybe patience is required
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  • #34,647
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:05am Oct 21, 2021 10:05am
Quoting trezo
meh... {image}
i told you 1000 times already ... trade a higher time frame and ride the wave as i am off a 15 / 30
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  • #34,648
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:10am Oct 21, 2021 10:10am
Quoting malcolmb14
{quote} i told you 1000 times already ... trade a higher time frame and ride the wave as i am off a 15 / 30
Why you think trading higher timeframes is medicine for everything ? I think i can trade on this tf but i have to work on it. You and other are always talking - go higher timeframes… you will not tell me whats wrong on chart but you will tell me change timeframe
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  • #34,649
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:19am Oct 21, 2021 10:19am
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possible change in behaviour on gbpusd in the last hour, need confirmation of weakness.
  • #34,650
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:21am Oct 21, 2021 10:21am
Quoting malcolmb14
es busting to take out ath .... we may have good runner today {image}
or not .... no power to take out ath .....

I am out of indexes and calling it a day ... small profit.

Indexes need to break to ath and test .. or evergrande needs to go bankrupt and crash the markets lol
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  • #34,651
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:25am Oct 21, 2021 10:25am
Quoting trezo
{quote} Why you think trading higher timeframes is medicine for everything ? I think i can trade on this tf but i have to work on it. You and other are always talking - go higher timeframes… you will not tell me whats wrong on chart but you will tell me change timeframe
me and others .. does that not tell you something ?

or have wider stops .... if that suits you better
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  • #34,652
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:29am Oct 21, 2021 10:29am
Quoting trezo
{quote} Why you think trading higher timeframes is medicine for everything ? I think i can trade on this tf but i have to work on it. You and other are always talking - go higher timeframes… you will not tell me whats wrong on chart but you will tell me change timeframe

ok instead of me suggesting sonething you do not want to hear ( trade a higher time frame) let me say something you might want to hear

use atr stops 2.5 atr you would have stayed in to top
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  • #34,653
  • Edited 10:59am Oct 21, 2021 10:35am | Edited 10:59am
Sorry I hijack your place for asking something very basic. If you dont like it I will remove, but as you are experts in using volume I hope to receive switly answer on indicators related to volume here

I found these types of trading volume, and some more with complex color scheme like The_better_volume,VPRSA volume etc. no need for me to ask because of colorblindness, but there is no instruction coming with them. If you know them please shed some words so we common ppl could understand how to use them.

in VSA I see you use volume average, what else do you recognize? Do you use what other type ? would not recommend to use which type? Why there is one called a hidden gap volume? what is there hidden, what gap has to do with volume? could you pls explain. I hope you know the one which 4 numbers at peak or trough, seemed wanting to make an impact message, someone coded from Tim Ord's teaching ... In relation to Gold on 21 Oct 2021 do you agree with what the indicators seeing about Gold movement? which is most correct which most wrong?

Most important what do you see in average volume how do you interpret the volume in relation to price bars?
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  • #34,654
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:38am Oct 21, 2021 10:38am
Quoting trezo
{quote} Why you think trading higher timeframes is medicine for everything ? I think i can trade on this tf but i have to work on it. You and other are always talking - go higher timeframes… you will not tell me whats wrong on chart but you will tell me change timeframe
Mate it looked like you just shat the bed and exited the trade too early, thats what you did wrong, it seemed like a good trade. Maybe you could try what Anotan suggested and manage it using M5?

Or use ATR stops like Malcolm was saying.
  • #34,655
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:42am Oct 21, 2021 10:42am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Mate it looked like you just shat the bed and exited the trade too early. Maybe you could try what Anotan suggested and manage it using M5? Or use ATR stops like Malcolm was saying.
noooooo thats a higher time frame he does not want to hear that .. lol
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  • #34,656
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:45am Oct 21, 2021 10:45am
Quoting ntk
Sorry I hijack your place for asking something very basic. If you dont like it I will remove, but as you are experts in using volume I hope to receive switly answer on indicators related to volume here I found these types of trading volume, and some more with complex color scheme like The_better_volume,VPRSA volume etc. no need for me to ask because of colorblindness, but there is no instruction coming with them. If you know them please shed some words so we common ppl could understand how to use them. in VSA I see you use volume average, what else...
Theres a pdf on the better volume flying about, check on google. Or might be on this thread somewhere.

Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Theres a pdf on the better volume flying about, check on google. Or might be on this thread somewhere.
Found this one mate.
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  • #34,657
  • Oct 21, 2021 10:52am Oct 21, 2021 10:52am
Quoting malcolmb14
{quote} noooooo thats a higher time frame he does not want to hear that .. lol
within a few weeks he will probably be thanking you.
  • #34,658
  • Oct 21, 2021 11:08am Oct 21, 2021 11:08am
Quoting malcolmb14
{quote} noooooo thats a higher time frame he does not want to hear that .. lol
You are laughing but... everyone is playing what suits up to himself and I don't like higher timeframes, I was playing it and I just don't like it.
Maybe I will try, but maybe.

You are laughing that I was in fear?? I just was moving stop loss. In first long I moved sl to be, because there was a pretty wide downbar, which can be potential buying, but potential, and it could be weakness bar so i moved it to be. That's all.

Next long I moved to be because there was upbar breaking top, on higher volume SO I moved stoplosses under this candle. Maybe it was wrong because it was not climatic candle, volume was higher but spread was normal.

When I am closing too fast, you are talking about trailing stoploss... when I am moving stoploss with trailing you are talking that I am in fear. Whats wrong guys...
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  • #34,659
  • Oct 21, 2021 11:10am Oct 21, 2021 11:10am
Quoting malcolmb14
{quote} ok instead of me suggesting sonething you do not want to hear ( trade a higher time frame) let me say something you might want to hear use atr stops 2.5 atr you would have stayed in to top {image}
I saw your posts about ATR stoploss, I was searching for indicator in links that you and other shared here. And all indi was odd. Thats why I didnt try it.
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  • #34,660
  • Oct 21, 2021 11:17am Oct 21, 2021 11:17am
Quoting ntk
Sorry I hijack your place for asking something very basic. If you dont like it I will remove, but as you are experts in using volume I hope to receive switly answer on indicators related to volume here I found these types of trading volume, and some more with complex color scheme like The_better_volume,VPRSA volume etc. no need for me to ask because of colorblindness, but there is no instruction coming with them. If you know them please shed some words so we common ppl could understand how to use them. in VSA I see you use volume average, what else...
where do i start ?

those indicators are basically a take off from tradeguider ...... the bar and the volume associated with a bar mean something .. aka volume spread analysis.

i suggest get your hands on tom williams master the markets and gavin holmes trading in the shadow of the smart money They will give you an insight on vsa which will give you an insight on how to use better volume indie etc.
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