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  • #90,281
  • Sep 20, 2021 6:48am Sep 20, 2021 6:48am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} yea, I paid price last night not do so on two accounts {image}
I was about to buy as it came with in 2 points of my tp and started to back away I came here waiting on gator to possibly give me some type of confirmation I let it go and waited till london got whipsawed on EU.. 4 times.

Quoting Boulder
{quote} My Oanda accounts look good with all those Eur shorts and Gu shorts, since no hedge is allowed. ... cashing out shorts one by one...
Are you allow to set multiple TPs and have them seperatly removed or is it like other brokers where if I had 3 orders in for 1 pair its only 1 TP..
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  • #90,282
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:00am Sep 20, 2021 7:00am
Quoting q_import
{quote} I was about to buy as it came with in 2 points of my tp and started to back away I came here waiting on gator to possibly give me some type of confirmation I let it go and waited till london got whipsawed on EU.. 4 times. {quote} Are you allow to set multiple TPs and have them seperatly removed or is it like other brokers where if I had 3 orders in for 1 pair its only 1 TP.. {image} {image}
I either modify order to manual close partial trade or I use EA to do auto partial close. eg 20pips close 25% position, 50pips close 50% position etc...
  • #90,283
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:05am Sep 20, 2021 7:05am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I either modify order to manual close partial trade or I use EA to do auto partial close. eg 20pips close 25% position, 50pips close 50% position etc...
Thank you.
I was messing with a grid and after my Sell Stop order is completely removed and triggers the next order a Sell Limit would be place in the previous Sell Stops Price that way if it goes back I would still lock in profit but the FIFO would be a headache but still lock it in..as the next order is triggered the Limit would be next in line. That way I can always BE or remove Risk.. Pending if it goes back and hits it.
  • #90,284
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:10am Sep 20, 2021 7:10am
Quoting q_import
{quote} Thank you. I was messing with a grid and after my Sell Stop order is completely removed and triggers the next order a Sell Limit would be place in the previous Sell Stops Price that way if it goes back I would still lock in profit but the FIFO would be a headache but still lock it in..as the next order is triggered the Limit would be next in line. That way I can always BE or remove Risk..
I hate US trading rules, FIFO,,, plus you can't even put stop loss and TP on same size trades done by EAs...I have a few old oanda accounts left, not intend to open more US accounts.
I focus on nonUS accounts, that is where my big accounts are
  • #90,285
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:14am Sep 20, 2021 7:14am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I hate US trading rules, FIFO,,, plus you can't even put stop loss and TP on same size trades done by EAs... I focus on nonUS accounts, that is where my big accounts are
Makes complete sense. Before FIFO we use to be able to have week old order and just hedge them out I miss that so much.
What do they require I couldnt get anyone to issue me an account because of US citizenship no broker wanted to touch it..
What kind of broker an I looking for.. or is it like a partnership where I give them a cut of the profits..


ECN account where you have to put the order in first then modify for a SL and TP.
I remember those I search for weeks in my free time just to figure out if the broker was ECN that the order had to be put in first
  • #90,286
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:18am Sep 20, 2021 7:18am
Trading related. Down trend into support. Decisions decisions.
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  • #90,287
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:21am Sep 20, 2021 7:21am
Quoting q_import
{quote} Makes complete sense. Before FIFO we use to be able to have week old order and just hedge them out I miss that so much. What do they require I couldnt get anyone to issue me an account because of US citizenship no broker wanted to touch it.. What kind of broker an I looking for.. or is it like a partnership where I give them a cut of the profits.. ECN account where you have to put the order in first then modify for a SL and TP. I remember those I search for weeks in my free time just to figure out if the broker was ECN that the order had...
Same broker. 2 sub accounts. you can still do this with 2 sub accounts. Long one account while shorting another. Transfer money where needed (sub account in house). Both accounts are usually under a master account.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #90,288
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:27am Sep 20, 2021 7:27am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Same broker. 2 sub accounts. you can still do this with 2 sub accounts. Long one account while shorting another. Transfer money where needed (sub account in house). Both accounts are usually under a master account.
Thank you Gator and Boulder! Both of you have helped me so much..
  • #90,289
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:31am Sep 20, 2021 7:31am
Quoting gatorinla
Cancel my Tesla. Ethereum is getting skull drug. {image}
Ethereum, monitoring 2861/73ish next. Trend is down. week and lower.. up on the month still.
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  • #90,290
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:34am Sep 20, 2021 7:34am
Quoting q_import
{quote} Thank you Gator and Boulder! Both of you have helped me so much..
I'm anti hedge.. but it can be done.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #90,291
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:45am Sep 20, 2021 7:45am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} I'm anti hedge.. but it can be done.
It was different back then you could have week old order and new ones and as the trades began to swing back you could close them out slowly while closing out the news ones as well it didnt matter. I think I still have the EA from 2006 If I can get a nonUS one I will use it again ..
  • #90,292
  • Sep 20, 2021 7:54am Sep 20, 2021 7:54am
Quoting q_import
{quote} It was different back then you could have week old order and new ones and as the trades began to swing back you could close them out slowly while closing out the news ones as well it didnt matter. I think I still have the EA from 2006 If I can get a nonUS one I will use it again ..
you will still have first in first out. But that's just psychological. One has to just think of the trade average. The only number that matters is the account equity. People are in competition with themselves. Some will destroy their account by trying to get a single trade to turn positive. Chasing ghost.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #90,293
  • Edited 8:21am Sep 20, 2021 8:07am | Edited 8:21am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} you will still have first in first out. But that's just psychological. One has to just think of the trade average. The only number that matters is the account equity. People are in competition with themselves. Some will destroy their account by trying to get a single trade to turn positive. Chasing ghost.
I agree with you.. Ive done that many time manually trading while away from where I usually trade.. averaging out positions Putting Stop on Support and Resistance knowing its going back but hoping it does not. When I am out and away of the comfort of home and trading. Ignorance knows no bounds. Sometime I think I am being clever.. lol its all down hill from there.
Most of the time I just trade the monthly move and call it month like now UJ is setup to drop 108.66.. by putting in a grid of sellstops and sell limits I can catch it down up and down again. If it moves and hits the limit order then i know it is not going back to the broker.
  • #90,294
  • Sep 20, 2021 8:37am Sep 20, 2021 8:37am
Quoting q_import
{quote} I agree with you.. Ive done that many time manually trading while away from where I usually trade.. averaging out positions Putting Stop on Support and Resistance knowing its going back but hoping it does not. When I am out and away of the comfort of home and trading. Ignorance knows no bounds. Sometime I think I am being clever.. lol its all down hill from there. Most of the time I just trade the monthly move and call it month like now UJ is setup to drop 108.66.. by putting in a grid of sellstops and sell limits I can catch it down...

I'm wondering if UJ is going to blast 110.80 again before the drop
  • #90,295
  • Sep 20, 2021 8:42am Sep 20, 2021 8:42am
Quoting charlienoble
{quote} I'm wondering if UJ is going to blast 110.80 again before the drop
i have no idea i just do what it tells me..
  • #90,296
  • Sep 20, 2021 8:43am Sep 20, 2021 8:43am
Quoting q_import
{quote} i have no idea i just do what it tells me..
I try to
Seems I'm often not a good listener
  • #90,297
  • Sep 20, 2021 8:48am Sep 20, 2021 8:48am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} My Oanda accounts look good with all those Eur shorts and Gu shorts, since no hedge is allowed. ... cashing out shorts one by one...
1744 may come. 4h 1759. My pending 184x looks worthless atm.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #90,298
  • Sep 20, 2021 8:57am Sep 20, 2021 8:57am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} 1744 may come. 4h 1759. My pending 184x looks worthless atm.
need a 1h close above 1728 ADR 1747.5, or 1680.9
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  • #90,299
  • Sep 20, 2021 9:01am Sep 20, 2021 9:01am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} need a 1h close above 1728 ADR 1747.5 {image}
Different broker, one account just triggered long at 1717
  • #90,300
  • Sep 20, 2021 9:13am Sep 20, 2021 9:13am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Ethereum, monitoring 2861/73ish next. Trend is down. week and lower.. up on the month still. {image}
Wondering if you have looked at all at Solana Gator?
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