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  • #3,421
  • Aug 21, 2021 8:57pm Aug 21, 2021 8:57pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} I have 97% winrate. All trades audited here in myfxbook...
Do you think I am gullible?

Set up a thread in the journals section and post your trade ideas before placing the trade. Do this for at least 3 months, posting at least two trades a week, with entry, stop loss, and take profit. No digressing from the plan. Then the truth will come out about your win rate.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #3,422
  • Aug 21, 2021 8:59pm Aug 21, 2021 8:59pm
Quoting Koop
Also, i think RickM's idea of 90% win rate is seriously skewed. There's a lot of rigorous hedging involved i believe.
Hi Koop, I believe we are all not gullible newbs right.

If the claim is "skewed" as you suggested why continue to harp this "skewed" claim instead of do the right thing to correct this "skew"?

You mean you don't believe this 90+% win rate for 50trades a day for every trading day that's easily done in 4 hours session?

Not my words btw.
Know what you trade
  • #3,423
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:02pm Aug 21, 2021 9:02pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} Do you think I am gullible? Set up a thread in the journals section and post your trade ideas before placing the trade. Do this for at least 3 months, posting at least two trades a week, with entry, stop loss, and take profit. No digressing from the plan. Then the truth will come out about your win rate.
I trade automated with EA. You should know that Roboforex is a legit broker and not possible to fake trades audited in myfxbook with legit brokers. So my trades are realistic.

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Why 2 entries per week? Sometimes I sit in dd with 1 opened deal for 3 weeks and do not open other deals with this strategy.
  • #3,424
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:15pm Aug 21, 2021 9:15pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} I trade automated with EA. You should know that Roboforex is a legit broker and not possible to fake trades audited in myfxbook with legit brokers. So my trades are realistic. {image} Why 2 entries per week? Sometimes I sit in dd with 1 opened deal for 3 weeks and do not open other deals with this strategy.
I am assuming that if you have a win rate of 97%, then you are a highly skilled trader. It shouldn't be a problem for you to produce 2 winning trades a week for the next 3 months if you are 'that' skilled. Show us your charts and trading ideas. By the way, automated systems are known to fail over time.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #3,425
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:22pm Aug 21, 2021 9:22pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} I am assuming that if you have a win rate of 97%, then you are a highly skilled trader. It shouldn't be a problem for you to produce 2 winning trades a week for the next 3 months. Show us your charts and trading ideas.
dont want to spent my time staring on charts to catch right entry moment. did analysis and developed EA what do that for me. EA do it very precisely - never broke any rule. manual trading is not so precise.

I mentioned that sometimes EA sit in dd wor 3 weeks and no other deals opened. your request for 2 trades per week is overtrading for that EA... not so much good entries.. skip bad entries and then can get so high winreate.

meanwhile you can check my manual trades attached in my signature TE. I post some posts before entries in this nice thread. For now my occasional manual trading have humble 78% winrate... not 97% as EA can do that... but as you see manual can be still profitable.
  • #3,426
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:27pm Aug 21, 2021 9:27pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} ...For now my occasional manual trading have humble 78% winrate... not 97% as EA can do that... but as you see manual can be still profitable.
Do you expect me to take a $134.00 account seriously?
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #3,427
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:36pm Aug 21, 2021 9:36pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} Do you expect me to take a $130 account seriously?
as you can see in myfxbook i have a lot of accounts with 100 usd starting capitals. I diversify risks and make portfolios with n strategies.

no big deal if you trade 10k or 100 usd account. liquidity is enough to trade 100k accounts. if money more than 300k then starting issues with liquidity if not popular asset traded. you can check darwinex statistics for investors where 4-5 mil usd total money follow signal accounts - you will see divergence. when more money then cant expect the same results as with 100 or 1000 usd accounts. But difference is acceptable for investors. If I earn 50% then investors earn 35-40%. This is still good.

so yes - investors take seriously signal accounts no matter what money in account. even with 10usd cent account if you can show consistent results you can get investors.

you dont need big money as trader to earn. 100 usd is enough if you are good and investors like your results. % tells enough.
  • #3,428
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:43pm Aug 21, 2021 9:43pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} as you can see in myfxbook i have a lot of accounts with 100 usd starting capitals. I diversify risks and make portfolios with n strategies. no big deal if you trade 10k or 100 usd account. liquidity is enough to trade 100k accounts. if money more than 300k then starting issues with liquidity if not popular asset traded. you can check darwinex statistics for investors where 4-5 mil usd total money follow signal accounts - you will see divergence. when more money then cant expect the same results as with 100 or 1000 usd accounts. But difference...
I want to see your charts and trading ideas, and a consistent win rate for the next 3 months with at least 1 trade a week. No scalping allowed. That's the only way you are going to make me a believer that you are as skilled at trading as you want us to believe.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #3,429
  • Aug 21, 2021 9:49pm Aug 21, 2021 9:49pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} I want to see your charts and trading ideas, and a consistent win rate for the next 3 months with at least 1 trade a week. No scalping allowed. That's the only way you are going to make me a believer that you are as skilled at trading as you want us to believe.
Hi here2there, relax man.

If this thread does not have these claims and PeterCalebs posts, this thread would have died long ago.

So don't kill the thread with your challenge pls.

Let's enjoy the entertainment.
And may it continue forever.
Know what you trade
  • #3,430
  • Aug 21, 2021 10:06pm Aug 21, 2021 10:06pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote}...Let's enjoy the entertainment....
That's exactly what it is!
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #3,431
  • Aug 21, 2021 10:29pm Aug 21, 2021 10:29pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi Koop, I believe we are all not gullible newbs right. If the claim is "skewed" as you suggested why continue to harp this "skewed" claim instead of do the right thing to correct this "skew"? You mean you don't believe this 90+% win rate for 50trades a day for every trading day that's easily done in 4 hours session? Not my words btw.
Lol you know it's hard to have these win rate discussions with traders who tout hedging over managing trades with Stop Losses.

Easier for me (a stop loss user) to say my Take profit got hit 6 times out of 10 trades and my SL got hit 4 times out of 10, thus a clear 60% win rate.

But a Hedger gets into a losing trade going against them and say they have a method of trading against that losing trade in such a way that when they close the basket of hedged trades they still come out with a profit or at breakeven. So aren't they actually losing those trades they try to chase/hedge?

I don't know how it works..... so i don't like to get into it.
  • #3,432
  • Aug 21, 2021 10:34pm Aug 21, 2021 10:34pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} I want to see your charts and trading ideas, and a consistent win rate for the next 3 months with at least 1 trade a week. No scalping allowed. That's the only way you are going to make me a believer that you are as skilled at trading as you want us to believe.
Would you disregard a (non-hedging) scalper's results if they created such a thread?
Why? 90% is 90% right?
  • #3,433
  • Edited 10:50pm Aug 21, 2021 10:39pm | Edited 10:50pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} I want to see your charts and trading ideas, and a consistent win rate for the next 3 months with at least 1 trade a week. No scalping allowed. That's the only way you are going to make me a believer that you are as skilled at trading as you want us to believe.
Doubt that profitable signal provider will reveal all his trading secrets.

He talking about msft and buy the dips. I made an ea and checked... Yes msft buy dips is good. But it is up to you when consider dip is enough to enter and when is enough tp/sl when to exit.
  • #3,434
  • Edited 12:18am Aug 22, 2021 12:07am | Edited 12:18am
Quoting here2there
{quote} I want to see your charts and trading ideas, and a consistent win rate for the next 3 months with at least 1 trade a week. No scalping allowed. That's the only way you are going to make me a believer that you are as skilled at trading as you want us to believe.
you are the one that wants something here not me

ok ok. there is 1 thing i want. here is the deal - I want red diamond well.. i just want it. that's it. people want things... you know.. so make me red diamond (engage needed count of people to follow me) then I will trade 3 months manual with 1 trade per week and no scalping. Will post chart before entry and explain why exit. like I did here. agree?

hope later you won't ask me for source codes of my EAs as the final step of "proof"... have private messages from people asking that...

Quoting BWilliam
Hi here2there, relax man. If this thread does not have these claims and PeterCalebs posts, this thread would have died long ago. So don't kill the thread with your challenge pls. Let's enjoy the entertainment. And may it continue forever.
Fully agree. This world mostly sucks (covids, murders, wars, corruptions, hate, illnesses, disasters etc etc etc). So let's have at least some fun here

I wonder that myfxbook audited/verified from legit broker trading history is not considered enough to be proof.. for some people proof is when I will send bitcoins to their wallets.. "prove me you have earned something... send me bitcoins I' ll send you back then".

thank you for this. I have really fun now and good mood. a lot of icons from me
  • #3,435
  • Aug 22, 2021 12:48am Aug 22, 2021 12:48am
i don't want red diamonds, i shit this bullshit.
  • #3,436
  • Aug 22, 2021 12:54am Aug 22, 2021 12:54am
Quoting gepards
{quote} you are the one that wants something here not me ok ok. there is 1 thing i want. here is the deal - I want red diamond well.. i just want it. that's it. people want things... you know.. so make me red diamond (engage needed count of people to follow me) then I will trade 3 months manual with 1 trade per week and no scalping. Will post chart before entry and explain why exit. like I did here. agree? hope later you won't...
Like asking Nadal after winning the grand slam and demanding him to also win table tennis to prove his skill in tennis..

but hey, thinking positively, maybe it was an opportunity for you to get a follower or even investor since people demanding your portfolio like a boss. TBH if I am interest or in doubt of someone else’s trading but can show me a good performance, I would really appreciate it and change my mind.

Good luck.
  • #3,437
  • Aug 22, 2021 1:04am Aug 22, 2021 1:04am
Quoting gepards
here is the deal - I want red diamond well.. i just want it. that's it. people want things... you know.. so make me red diamond...
Red diamonds, you have my permission write to FF admin to have mine.

Here on FF, few members act as Guru either with red diamond or loads of their devotees will click "like" to support his post.
Devotees maketh the guru.
Ofc we all know who these people are.

You see this type of childish behaviour on FF.

That's why I only enjoy the fun and entertainment on a kids forum.
Know what you trade
  • #3,438
  • Aug 22, 2021 1:14am Aug 22, 2021 1:14am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Like asking Nadal after winning the grand slam and demanding him to also win table tennis to prove his skill in tennis.. but hey, thinking positively, maybe it was an opportunity for you to get a follower or even investor since people demanding your portfolio like a boss. TBH if I am interest or in doubt of someone else’s trading but can show me a good performance, I would really appreciate it and change my mind. Good luck.
Nadal showing off his trophies won't mean much.

Watch Nadal in his matches carry a lot of tennis lessons besides the top class entertainment his matches provide.

Likewise, claims even with proof mean nothing.

The details of each scalp trade executed do mean a lot.

That's why I've asked politely for the details of the scalpers trades.
Ofc I understand why I won't get to see them.
Know what you trade
  • #3,439
  • Aug 22, 2021 1:34am Aug 22, 2021 1:34am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Like asking Nadal after winning the grand slam and demanding him to also win table tennis to prove his skill in tennis.. but hey, thinking positively, maybe it was an opportunity for you to get a follower or even investor since people demanding your portfolio like a boss. TBH if I am interest or in doubt of someone else’s trading but can show me a good performance, I would really appreciate it and change my mind. Good luck.
you say the truth. The thing is not so many entries are good. Sometimes I don't have an entry for more than 1 week. Why go in bad entries? Even with that I still have some bad entries. But overtrading and try to trade some amount of deals is wrong. It is better not to trade 2 weeks and wait for a good entry rather than make an entry because... what? why? to lose money?

different story with EAs...

therefore you already can follow my manual trading in this thread. I dont put all trades here.. some before/afters. But my account is attached to TE and all visible. And yes - sometimes I scalp when having more time but mostly swing.
  • #3,440
  • Aug 22, 2021 1:34am Aug 22, 2021 1:34am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} I have written previously I will NEVER trade for a living. People get hurt and insulted by my post. Instead of try understand why I wrote it. First of all, we are all gambling with Forex trading. If the trader assumes this gambling mindset instead of rejecting it, he has set himself up with a favourable mindset to win in this trading business. Everyone is so ingrained to reject this gambling mindset that none have stop to think deeply on this subject. Don't expect me to explain why this is so. Even much harder to convince others about it....
Since Gambling is inherit in forex business, either one win some or lose all of it, no in between like in other businesses where even if one loose the value of his product due to excess supply he still can get something of his item, or worst case all the stocks burnt some scrap can be made out of it which is not the case in Forex so it is gambling.

now we are left with how much one want to gamble of his equity, so its all comes down to risk management and amount of equity available where a small 3% can be enough for living, for that either he should have that much equity and trust on broker and a contingency plan in place or a Funded account.

or

if one think he is so perfect and can make 20% from a small equity and still make a living is the dream every other person wants to achieve (95% of the case perhaps), and if one is so perfect he should still look for a funded account as a safer bet.
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