The Noob to Great Project

Hi everyone,

I'm a noob in trading, I made my first 2 days last week for the very first time in real trading after having tested and worked on my trading skills in demo some years before.

My project is very simple : let's go from noob in trading to being Great in it !

I'm starting this thread in the idea of sharing my progress, what I'm doing and seems to help, what I'm doing and doesn't seems to help, what are my results, how I'm managing things, etc, etc.

It's a way for me also to go in some way to a "public" place even if it's only this forum, so I'll have to tell my story and..... and will then NEED to make it a success because I can afford to lose, but not to lose when people are SEEING IT. So this thread could be considered as a weapon of my trading style, in the idea to reinforce my motivationt to becoming great in this area and master it.

So, for now it's 6 trades taken in 2 days. All were losses. On the 6 trades there is NONE that followed exactly my strategy, so for the first 2 days I made very stupid actions. There is only one trade that could be considered to be nearly ok by following my strategy, but not at 100 % ok so it's still a bad trade because it wasn't following perfectly the plan.

I lose - 1,39 % of my very very small account. So now it's something like - -0,69 % - 0,70 % per day (1,39 % / 2).

My goal will be now to go to at least - 0,68 % per day, meaning getting a little better, a little less bad.

That's all folks ! Thank you for reading me !

I'll add that it's a test here, I'm gonna be some kind of guinea pig to test all the possible ways to master trading, so feel free to give me advices that work for you, things to not do, to share what you've to share, and we will see how far a big noob could go if he really want to get good in that field

Some people said to me there're some angry people on the forum, never met them for now but I will just ignore them if they come.

Now is the time to start this big journey, if I analyse the journey of others traders, that surely will give some difficulties, breakthrough, dreams, sadness, faith to have, new friends, new goals, etc, etc, I mean, it's gonna be a big adventure ! !

P.S : I engage myself once the challenge has succeeded to meet the people that helped me the most and going to party to L.A or Japan hahaha ! Travel is a dream and with trading mastery that could be really facilitated ! Thank you all to have read me and sorry english isn't my first langage so I can't have perfect english, thank you for your understanding !

P.S 2 : And wish me good luck people ! As sometimes hard work and motivation, focus and will, perseverance and efforts aren't enough !

Hi people of earth,

Today I'm tired of having done too many things in a lot of areas of my life recently including my first real trades last week, that was a very powerful experience but very stressful and tiring

So now I'll just take a day OFF as it's needed and with my actual skills, if I had tiredness to my session, the market will just destroy me, it would be a piece of cake to it to eat me alive.

So I'll pass today, have an awesome trading days folks.

Despite being out of trading for today I'm thinking about something, maybe someone will know this !

I've a competitiv Mindset, you know that for some - if not most of people - competition is a factor of stress, being emotionally affected, feeling really uncomfortable, etc. Whereas without competition they feel better, calmer, less stress and being able to progress on anything they want to improve.

For me it's the reverse situation. No competition = I'm bored and not that much driven, even if I can advance on my projects but not that powerfully.
Competition = I'm activated, it's like my brain is on fire, LET'S GO LET'S GO LET'S GO !

So even if my skills are now very low at best, I would like to know if some of you know some ways to compete with other traders ? Maybe on a website, or on a team, or any other ways ?

It could be also be as simple as to have some values to know nearly your skills, something like for example :

+ 0,10 % a day with a small account = 5th on 100 traders (if we think that 95 % lose money).
+ 1 % a day with a small account = 1st / 100 traders if we think that it's clearly a great result
+ 2 % a day with a small account = 1 st / 1000 traders
+ 3 % a day with a small account = 1st / 10 000 traders

It's just an example of course and I've no clue if this scale is good or not.

I'm waiting for your ideas of how to turn this into a competition, all ideas are welcome and I think and FEEL that this could help a lot in my trading style.

Getting good a trading to me is cool, but competition against others is AWESOME to me, at least it's how my brain is working and I think that alone could improve my trading skills.

Have a nice day folks and thank you for reading me.

En attente de vos lumières les amis ! !

It has been 7 days of trading.

I've lost 4 days on 7 and win 3 days on 7.

The first 2 days of losing trades aren't that interesting as it was the first days and I made A TONS of stupid beginners mystakes.


When a do a positive trade I'm happy, as a total noob, so I say "ok for today" and left for the day.

If I do a negative trade, I'm a little bit mad and try to catch up to end the day on a positive side. That makes me make mystakes.

So I should continue when I've a forst good trade, that's more possible it's a good day for trading on my mood or on the market.

I should stop when I've a first bad trade, that's more possible it's not a good day for trading on my mood or on the market.

Have all a good day

OUF je me permets de commenter car je vois pas mal de choses qui m'inquiètent, je ne prétends pas tout savoir, loin de là, mais puisque tu engages la discussion, allons-y.

Ce qui est bien c'est que tu réalises et admets que tu te comportes comme quelqu'un jouant au casino en essayant de te "refaire" après tes pertes.
Tu expliques que tu te te dis "ok pour ajd" quand t'as fait un profit, là aussi ça montre une seule chose, tu n'as aucune confiance dans ta stratégie.
Et c'est normal puisque tu commences comme tu as expliqué

Et honnêtement, il y a un moment où il faut passer du demo au compte réel car 1 semaine de compte réel est aussi utile que 2-3 mois de compte démo, au moins !
Car en démo on a l'envie de se voiler un peu la face sur certains problèmes dans notre stratégie et on ne peut voir certains problèmes qu'en live tout simplement. Donc tu as bien fait selon moi (tant que tu restes sur de petites sommes tant que tu improvises)


Je n'aime pas ces comportements irrationnels et qui prouvent que tu abdiques à comprendre le problème, essaye plutôt de trouver des solutions, quel type de situation te fait perdre de l'argent ? les chopy market ? les jours très volatiles ? ,etc. et adapte ta stratégie.

Si parfois tu enchaines les séries de trades réussis ou ratés, dis toi que tu surveilles probablement pas mal de devises, indices, etc. qui sont corrélés !!
En effet si tu surveilles 3 paires qui ont 95% de corrélation, tu vas passer 3 trades au lieu d'un seul.
Ca ne sert donc à rien d'ouvrir les graphiques de 40 paires de devises ^^

Concernant ta stratégie, quels indicateurs utilises-tu ? Même sans tout dévoiler, tu peux un peu expliquer en quoi ça consiste ?
Dans la même lignée qu'avant,
1) essaie de ne pas avoir d'indicateurs redondants sinon ils t'empecheront juste de trader au bon moment, vont te faire du temps et te donneront une fausse impression que tout va dans ton sens.
2) fais aussi attention de ne pas avoir des indicateurs ou les périodes de tes indicateurs qui sont incompatibles entre eux.
3) ne change pas toute ta stratégie à chaque fois que tu foires 2 trades à la suite, c'est important d'adapter ton système mais tu n'auras jamais un système avec 100% de winrate, tu dois accepter que des trades iront BE ou avec une petite perte.
4) évite au max les indicateurs qui repeignent (genre zigzag,etc qui ne servent à rien du tout) ou utilises-les en connaissance de cause, et ne mets pas ton argent réel en jeu en suivant des stratégies farfelues du forum, ce n'est pas 99% du forum qui est perdant, c'est 99,99999%
Avec le temps, avec un graphique ou 2 lignes d'intro tu sauras skipper ces threads inutiles mais ne va perdre de l'argent là dedans et encore moins dans les EA,
s'ils pouvaient faire 8000% de rendement ils n'auraient pas besoin de ton argent.

Personnellement quand je finalisais ma stratégie j'essayais de trouver tous les trades possibles qui foiraient, pour voir si ma méthode était vraiment correcte ou pas, je pense que c'est très important que tu mettes tout sur papier.
Perso j'ai une trentaine de pages de règles pour mes entrées, mes sorties/ mon money management, ton but doit être de laisser le moins de place possible à l'émotion, à tes mauvais comportements, tes faiblesses.
Tu ne pourras pas l'éliminer complètement car tu auras toujours un indicateur à 88 au lieu des 90 prévus et tu te demanderas si tu peux quand meme prendre le trade ou pas, mais le but est que ces hésitations n'aient pas de répercussions sur tes résultats.


Voilà j'ai déjà pas mal parlé, je suis un peu à court d'idées là, surtout ne sachant pas vraiment ton niveau, tes stratégies,etc.
Tout ce que je peux te dire c'est que tu as déjà bien fait d'arriver ici plutôt que sur les vieux forum FR déserts avec des grincheux tradant
uniquement en lisant leur journal et aigri d'avoir perdu l'argent pour sortir bobonne.

Thank your for your answer,

and so, no answer to my questions ahah ?

Please be more respectful or I'll just block you, I don't have time if people aren't interested in growing and showing respect to others.

"Je n'aime pas ces comportements irrationnels et qui prouvent que tu abdiques à comprendre le problème, essaye plutôt de trouver des solutions, quel type de situation te fait perdre de l'argent ? les chopy market ? les jours très volatiles ? ,etc. et adapte ta stratégie."

That's exactly what I did, adapting my strategy.

Si parfois tu enchaines les séries de trades réussis ou ratés, dis toi que tu surveilles probablement pas mal de devises, indices, etc. qui sont corrélés !!
En effet si tu surveilles 3 paires qui ont 95% de corrélation, tu vas passer 3 trades au lieu d'un seul.

I do only ONE market, as I'm on a limited acount that allows only to take one position at a time. I've a guaranteed stop loss in that limited account that's the great fact, so it's impossible I lose more than what I put in a trade. Pretty safe as I'm only risking very small amounts of money for now. More like 0,50 $ on each trade than 500 $ on each trade with very small capital.

Ca ne sert donc à rien d'ouvrir les graphiques de 40 paires de devises ^^

I didn't do it.

Concernant ta stratégie, quels indicateurs utilises-tu ? Même sans tout dévoiler, tu peux un peu expliquer en quoi ça consiste ?

Heikin Ashi make most of my strategy. Identifying change in the trends with it and being early on it. Riding the trend AMAP VS taking small profits regurlarly, still working on exits because that's the main problem to solve now.

Dans la même lignée qu'avant,
1) essaie de ne pas avoir d'indicateurs redondants sinon ils t'empecheront juste de trader au bon moment, vont te faire du temps et te donneront une fausse impression que tout va dans ton sens.

Nearly no indicators except heikin ashi and some moving average that may or may not be necessary.

2) fais aussi attention de ne pas avoir des indicateurs ou les périodes de tes indicateurs qui sont incompatibles entre eux.

No confusion is the main thing here so I'm trying to keep stuff simple AMAP.

3) ne change pas toute ta stratégie à chaque fois que tu foires 2 trades à la suite, c'est important d'adapter ton système mais tu n'auras jamais un système avec 100% de winrate, tu dois accepter que des trades iront BE ou avec une petite perte.

In fact for now at least in theory without mystakes it's more like 55 % win 45 % loss but R.R can be 3 to 4 times more in winning trade than in losing trades.

4) évite au max les indicateurs qui repeignent (genre zigzag,etc qui ne servent à rien du tout) ou utilises-les en connaissance de cause, et ne mets pas ton argent réel en jeu en suivant des stratégies farfelues du forum, ce n'est pas 99% du forum qui est perdant, c'est 99,99999%

I don't agree with that, it's a question of checking if things are working for you. Maybe I didn't checked the stupid subjects in the forum, but to the ones I read it's more about testing what someone is saying and adapting it to see how it goes, than discarding what someone is saying without testing it. Remember trading is testing, testing, testing, more than anything.

Avec le temps, avec un graphique ou 2 lignes d'intro tu sauras skipper ces threads inutiles mais ne va perdre de l'argent là dedans et encore moins dans les EA,
s'ils pouvaient faire 8000% de rendement ils n'auraient pas besoin de ton argent.
Personnellement quand je finalisais ma stratégie j'essayais de trouver tous les trades possibles qui foiraient, pour voir si ma méthode était vraiment correcte ou pas, je pense que c'est très important que tu mettes tout sur papier.

Yeah that's right, it's more about trying to make your strategy not working in the sens of you're trying to build it's defense abilities. Ultimately anything could work, but you've got to test it for real and trying to see if it's really doable.

Perso j'ai une trentaine de pages de règles pour mes entrées, mes sorties/ mon money management, ton but doit être de laisser le moins de place possible à l'émotion, à tes mauvais comportements, tes faiblesses.

Realise I'm a fucking noob so the first 2 days I've made TONS of mystakes, and wednesday less bad mystakes but some, and the market doesn't allow you to make mystakes. If I put aside the mystakes made, I've for now no negative day (4 days positives on 7). The big problem as I tell is when I have a lost trade now I can't accept it and I start to do shit things to recover this loss, so it get only in a bigger loss.

The strategy I should use now is OTAD : one trading a day. It's not in my rules to take more than one trade. The idea is if I'm able to be good enough to be positive with one very small trade a day, I'll try to do 2 trades a day. Or put more risk on the table (now : less than 0,33 % risk per trade of a very small account). Then 3 trades. Etc, etc. Once mastered a style, as I'm in scalping EUR / USD, try to add a new style, etc, etc, etc.

That means I'll grow little by little depending on my results.

Now If I take out the results of the very first days with TONS of mystakes, even by keeping the other stupid day, I'm little little little positive. In theory the method is working, checking everyday the market I'm trading on to see if it would have given a positive result at the end of the day by trading it perfectly without mystakes.

THE BIG PROBLEM is when there isn't any liquidity, but you know what ? That's the problem of most of traders as far as I understood. How do you see when it's better to go out of the market when it's not moving ? Some says higher time frames checking, some news checking, some hour / month / day of the week checking, etc, etc, etc.

It's kind of stupid as I thought the more it moves the more risks I have but that's clearly not like this, it's more like the less movements there is the more risk I have.

This strategy seem to be possible to give AMAZING results the months before august, so i'm wondering if this month is kinda dead as many traders are maybe on holidays.

More than anything I like the fact it seems in 7 days I'm at the level of the market nearly, that means I'm A big noob on the REAL market but not a total noob as I already managed to be at this level on DEMO.

Tu ne pourras pas l'éliminer complètement car tu auras toujours un indicateur à 88 au lieu des 90 prévus et tu te demanderas si tu peux quand meme prendre le trade ou pas, mais le but est que ces hésitations n'aient pas de répercussions sur tes résultats.

You can't imagine, and I don't ask you to, all the emotions that came with those 7 days. It's also linked to a personal issue because I had to live very difficult things and heal for more than 2 and a half year, to be able again to continue my trading journey. MORE THAN ANYTHING it will be needed soon to calm down and adopt a more systematical approach of my state of mind and how to improve my strategy / test new ones. It was needed to have a start, so it's done. Now we will see how far this can go.

Voilà j'ai déjà pas mal parlé, je suis un peu à court d'idées là, surtout ne sachant pas vraiment ton niveau, tes stratégies,etc.
Tout ce que je peux te dire c'est que tu as déjà bien fait d'arriver ici plutôt que sur les vieux forum FR déserts avec des grincheux tradant
uniquement en lisant leur journal et aigri d'avoir perdu l'argent pour sortir bobonne.

My only level is the level of someone that was at - 5% per day on DEMO, then grow little by little to - 1 % per day, then grow little by little to - 0,50 % per day, then to - 0,20 % per day, then -0,10 %, then + 0,01 % per day. This is on 100 days trading DEMO.

Then I wanted to try to do this in real and grow on a real account because it's more difficult, and shit happened. Had to deal with that 2years and a half, now back to it and started real account. My results are the ones you see on this thread.

You can see the very bottom of my losses is - 1,34 % of total capital, now It has recover partially as you can see on the previous post.

Thank you for your message, if you show respect I'll show you how fucking great I've the will to become and we will build this skill to an awesome level together. I don't know your level at all me neither.

Have a great day

I put here how it's going for those 7 days (made a mytake last time, it was only 6 days, now 7).

As far as I can think, for a total 100 % noob on real account with many many mystakes, it's not that bad.

Seems like more or less neutral results.

It's a start, you can't have very good results before having good results, and you can't have good results before being a little positive, and you can't be a little positive before being at the level of the market and at least out of the negative zone.

So it's a start.

My bet is that 100 days of trading will change my skill in better if I'm working well on it. Then 100 days and again. And again. And again.

If you're dedicated to it I suppose it's a matter of perseverance. Hoping it at least, what's not made is yet to be made and you never now if you'll reach the goal or not. But perseverance is a strong ally to have in any big project, and I've it.

WTF man ... i've just asked if you will answer my questions because i thought you'd perhaps skipped this line in my text,and because i've put some time to write you a long answer.
i even put a smiley and "ahah" to show you it's friendly, can't do much more... :/
I know these days some kids feel attacked by everything but there is a limit.

Btw you mentionned an health issue if i remember, i have to deal with one person bipolar at work and she behaves exactly like you, overexcited about something then suddenly on defensive mode, so i totally respect your state and i know it's not an easy condition but you'll understand that i'll stop here the discussion because
i don't want to have so much negative energy when i offer with pleasure a part of my free-time. I feel it will be too much to handle for me "and for that reason, i'm out" !

Good continuation in your project btw, i really hope you'll be successful.

Thank you for your very deep interesting and clever answer.

I see you can't read, I just told you to be more respectful, that's pretty simple.

You show me in your very kind message you can't do it, thank you for insulting me.

Hi people,

Lesson learned : now I'll ignore directly anybody that doesn't show a respectful attitude without saying anything.

Also about trading, well, I'm at - 0,13 % per day now after 7 days of trading, and if I don't take into account the 2 first days BIG BIG BIG STUPID TOTAL NOOB BEGINNER mystakes, I'm a little positive.

With mystakes also especially on the 11 august taken into account, I think it's not that bad for the 7 first days as I had reached the + 0,01 % per day style on DEMO trading (on 100 days).

Have a good evening everyone, I should stop writing here and postiing directy on other topics to find interesting people to speak with and not present here my trading results / life about trading.

PROOF : I told I had bad events preventing me to trade from 2 years and 6 months, and THE VERY FIRST PEOPLE THAT CAME ANSWERING TO THIS THREAD is someone with a bad behavior and that played on that aspect of my life to be nasty and insulting me.

It convinced me to stop this thread and not share anything anymore except to very great people and serious one, and RESPECTFUL ones.

Have a nice day everyone, I'm out of this thread.