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  • #3,561
  • Jul 13, 2021 3:53am Jul 13, 2021 3:53am
USDCAD 1 mn
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  • #3,562
  • Jul 13, 2021 4:05am Jul 13, 2021 4:05am
Hourly eur/usd forecast
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  • #3,563
  • Jul 13, 2021 9:54am Jul 13, 2021 9:54am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede You are correct many clever guys on this thread, but I have to confess both you and Parisboy are way over my paygrade now Looks like I am going to have to find another home as my posts look far to simplistic compared to these latest very interesting posts I completely understand what you guys are trying to do but compared to lets say other ways I am not yet convinced that the edge is enough to warrant all the effort We both mentioned that we still have to manage the trades when we have pressed the button and monitor all that's evolved...
Dave your charts are great, in fact I find them complicated sometimes because I am not "seeing"what you see, when I do the light bulb goes on.....so please just keep posting because this community needs it...

Look, Jenkins and all the rest who teach trading, all agree, and all state clearly, there are 100 ways to analyze the market, and Jenkins in his videos offer a ton of ways to analyse from monthly, daily, weekly, all the way down to 5 minute. It can be very confusing if you try all his methods using mt4, or without his tools he uses.

Actually, I have kind of overlooked circles until Jedburgh showed me how to use the circle tool properly, the one made by jeanlouie and it is the most simple method in F F.

But, from all that comes a few methods that can work for the average trader, you and me. And one of them is the proper use of squares and circles.....

Anyway Dave...yesterday when experimenting I found this...and look at the result, a perfect 100 pip trade with absolutely no drawdown....and all it was is the proper use of the circle...the points of reference from high to low...and that is all it is for measurement to work...
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  • #3,564
  • Jul 13, 2021 10:41am Jul 13, 2021 10:41am
Quoting kapital
{quote} Thanks. Btw...how are the diagonals drawn on your circles?
I'm drawing the inner square manually and then drawing what might be called geometric extensions out
from the circle. Why? Gann said that the square and triangle form within the circle right? Everyone assumes
he was speaking of astrology and that's fine, I don't doubt it. But he often had more than one meaning to
the things he said. Fact is, the square and triangle form within the circle geometrically and when you get down
to it, the astrological aspects he was looking for are merely geometric configurations. Anyway, back to the charts.
Thanks to jeanlouie's circle tool, we can easily draw this inner square. Think Gann square, think Jenkin's offset angles.
The diagonal of the square is the 1x1 Gann angle. The corner through the midpoint of the opposite side is the 1x2 etc.
Instead of making a square that is straight up and down, we are offsetting it because we are dealing with vectors along
an angle that is not 90 degrees. Jenkins shows this using an impulse wave. But the fact is it can be done from any swing
the market gives us. The uses are nearly endless. I hope this short explanation helped.
  • #3,565
  • Jul 13, 2021 11:23am Jul 13, 2021 11:23am
NzdCad chart is current
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  • Jul 13, 2021 11:53am Jul 13, 2021 11:53am
USDCAD Daily
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  • Jul 13, 2021 12:04pm Jul 13, 2021 12:04pm
AudUsd chart is current. If you need more simplicity combined with accuracy than this then I can't help you.
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  • #3,568
  • Jul 13, 2021 1:49pm Jul 13, 2021 1:49pm
Quoting kapital
Hourly eur/usd forecast {image} {image}
Right area...wrong direction.
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  • #3,569
  • Jul 13, 2021 2:14pm Jul 13, 2021 2:14pm
Quoting Jedburgh
{quote} I'm drawing the inner square manually and then drawing what might be called geometric extensions out from the circle. Why? Gann said that the square and triangle form within the circle right? Everyone assumes he was speaking of astrology and that's fine, I don't doubt it. But he often had more than one meaning to the things he said. Fact is, the square and triangle form within the circle geometrically and when you get down to it, the astrological aspects he was looking for are merely geometric configurations. Anyway, back to the charts....
I see...but how did you draw the highlighted diagonal below?
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  • #3,570
  • Edited 3:24pm Jul 13, 2021 3:07pm | Edited 3:24pm
Quoting kapital
{quote} I see...but how did you draw the highlighted diagonal below? {image}
He drew them from the anchor points (four dots)when you first place the circle indicator on your charts...and of course this is an mt4 indicator. So not sure how this works in Tradingview.
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  • #3,571
  • Jul 13, 2021 3:16pm Jul 13, 2021 3:16pm
Quoting Jedburgh
{quote} I'm drawing the inner square manually and then drawing what might be called geometric extensions out from the circle. Why? Gann said that the square and triangle form within the circle right? Everyone assumes he was speaking of astrology and that's fine, I don't doubt it. But he often had more than one meaning to the things he said. Fact is, the square and triangle form within the circle geometrically and when you get down to it, the astrological aspects he was looking for are merely geometric configurations. Anyway, back to the charts....
Note additional analyses...
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  • #3,572
  • Jul 13, 2021 3:36pm Jul 13, 2021 3:36pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Note additional analyses... {image}
Just so Swede. As I said earlier, what I am doing is using the inner square. Gann never showed this in any of his published
work that I am aware of. Jenkins hints at it, with offset angles and his chapter on arcs in the Chart Reading book but Jenkins
is very cagey like Gann was. So let me be clear on this next point. I am not 'doing Jenkins' and I am not 'doing Gann'. I have
taken concepts from both of them and extrapolated those concepts into what you see me posting and what I knew Swede would
pick up on very quickly, which is obviously the case. I am trying to be the help nobody ever gave me. If circles and squares are
your cup of tea then great, join me and Swede on what I assure you will be a wonderful journey. If not, then that's fine too, to
each their own. This thread has some great contributors and I am merely pointing out to everyone that jeanlouie has knowingly
or unknowingly gifted us with a rare gemstone. Thanks again JL.
  • #3,573
  • Edited 6:47pm Jul 13, 2021 6:05pm | Edited 6:47pm
Quoting kapital
{quote} Isn't the 2nd triangle the one with the 52 degree offset?
No, it’s all about how Beck measures the move........the emblem plots the move from the 90 degree offset created by the move up in this case., not from zero. If you measure from zero the offset would be 38 degrees instead of 52.

On any impulse move, the 90 degree offset is the ultimate retrace or support level to resume the trend. But Beck through years of plotting retrace levels kept coming back to the 52 as the most prolific of all and developed the emblem from there.

if you take your protractor and overlay the chart with 90 degrees being your start, you will see....

ps....unless there is a clear Gartley pattern there is little benefit to using the emblem....your further ahead to just plot offset 90 patterns, can pay huge rewards
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  • #3,574
  • Jul 13, 2021 9:46pm Jul 13, 2021 9:46pm
CadJpy chart is current
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  • Jul 13, 2021 9:57pm Jul 13, 2021 9:57pm
CadJpy with the grid
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  • #3,576
  • Jul 14, 2021 3:48am Jul 14, 2021 3:48am
Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone that contributes to this, some brilliant posts by Jedburgh and Swede the last few days. Quick question, in regards the grid that Swede uses on Impulse waves, is it possible in MT4 to setup an alert on the angles/trend lines drawn through them when price touches?
  • #3,577
  • Jul 14, 2021 4:09am Jul 14, 2021 4:09am
Quoting Jedburgh
{quote} I'm drawing the inner square manually and then drawing what might be called geometric extensions out from the circle. Why? Gann said that the square and triangle form within the circle right? Everyone assumes he was speaking of astrology and that's fine, I don't doubt it. But he often had more than one meaning to the things he said. Fact is, the square and triangle form within the circle geometrically and when you get down to it, the astrological aspects he was looking for are merely geometric configurations. Anyway, back to the charts....
Now I can CLEARLY understand what you are doing...thanks!
"GIVE ME 3 POINTS IN SPACE IN TIME AND WATCH ME CREATE MAGIC."
  • #3,578
  • Jul 14, 2021 4:12am Jul 14, 2021 4:12am
Quoting Swede
{quote} He drew them from the anchor points (four dots)when you first place the circle indicator on your charts...and of course this is an mt4 indicator. So not sure how this works in Tradingview. {image}
Got it....thanks.
"GIVE ME 3 POINTS IN SPACE IN TIME AND WATCH ME CREATE MAGIC."
  • #3,579
  • Jul 14, 2021 7:07am Jul 14, 2021 7:07am
Quoting Eurekagnosis
Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone that contributes to this, some brilliant posts by Jedburgh and Swede the last few days. Quick question, in regards the grid that Swede uses on Impulse waves, is it possible in MT4 to setup an alert on the angles/trend lines drawn through them when price touches?

I don't think it has that functionality but you could always take one of those trend line alert indicators and draw over the line/angle of interest
and have that alert you when the price area you are watching gets hit. I don't know of one off hand but perhaps one of the other members does.
  • #3,580
  • Jul 14, 2021 7:13am Jul 14, 2021 7:13am
Quoting kapital
{quote} Now I can CLEARLY understand what you are doing...thanks!
Hey kapital, I knew you would. They don't all work out but it's a simple way to point up price/time areas of interest.
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